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.223 is a lot cheaper to shoot and can be accurate to over 300 yards easy. I'd probably go with that if you don't need something with long range.

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Yep, .223 for sure. They are accurate WAY past 300 yards if you get a decent one. Hell, I was shooting 6" groups on iron sights at 300 yards in the military.

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Sexy! Great looking weapon... Love the stock.

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.223, but you can also consider 9mm if you want to get away from the standard AR platform. I've been looking at carbines as well, and the upside to 9mm is even less of a cost.

I think you want the AR chambered for 556 if I recall (think that's right) as you can shoot 223 ammo, and it's better for the gun if it's basis is a 556. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Either way, you can also convert an AR to a .22 platform for practice with the weapon and even further savings on ammo.

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If any of you guys aren't members of the NRA, now is the time. I think it's something like $35 for a year.

But donating to the NRA-ILA is where it really counts. They're the division that actually engages the legislative process. Even if it's only $5, if you want to keep your rights and keep your guns, do it.

This is a rather heavy video for Style but it's relavent and bears a lot of truth. Some of you may recognize Travis Haley. He is a reserve LEO and former Force Recon Marine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=yIGzj6eIwWU

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I joined a month ago for the first time. Even if they aren't perfect they are the best we have and use the money to pressure all the idiots in washington.

So I totally agree with you. Join up guys :)

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Yep, pretty much the reason I chose it. I love the look of the wood laminate stocks over synthetic, plus the thumbhole stock, and the adjustable cheek riser and butt plate made it an easy decision. I know you can get these aftermarket, it was just nice that it came this way from CZ.

Correct. If it's chambered for 5.56 NATO then you can also shoot .223, but not really recommended the other way around.

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My buddy borrowed me a scope and foregrip to test, now just need to try some of the few hundred rounds I bought!
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...EE39C5CAFE.jpg

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Anyone going to the capital this Saturday?

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I will be there. I'll also be at the February 18th gathering.

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Anyone have any tips on removing the front sight on a xd. I think i will be doing the dermal method as my local smith said he cant get it out in one peice.

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Finally got to shoot my scar after like 2 weeks! I went to bills twice before this and it was so busy we didn't get on.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...2AFF4D3B48.jpg

Dialed in my buddies scope. The top right was the first 15 shots or so at 25 yards, then I adjust a bit a was shooting a bit faster and then finally I dialed it to the center groupings. I am in love with this rifle, feels so right! Then I spent like 1.5 hours cleaning it all nice and pretty, I am slow as I am still figuring it all out.

Fun times though! Can't wait to shoot it outdoors.

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Nice! I'm jealous, I haven't been able to shoot mine yet.
Was that from a bench rest or standing? What are the scope specs? Are you just borrowing the scope to see if you like that particular one, or just wanted to get anything on there to test it out?

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Question, what kind of magnification should I be looking at for optics. Looking at Leoupold and Trijicon for tactical scopes. Is the number usually up to yards, like 4x would be good at 400 yards?

The scope my buddy borrowed me weighs A TON! My gun is super light without it, like 7lbs, feels great. Once I put the scope on it became really fat. Just like my car looking to drop some weight.

I'd love to be able to hit stuff out to 400-500yards for fun, I think the gun is good for 600 yards or so, but 400-500 seems like plenty even for fun.

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If you are going to be doing a lot of various ranges, something like a 4-9 or 4-12 power would be good. The 4x does not mean good for 400 yards specifically.

You also need to choose the diameter, like 40mm or 50mm. Bigger diameter is going to let more light in, but also going to bring up the center away from the rifle making it harder to use. But it looks like your rifle has an adjustable cheek riser so that is less of an issue. Better optics also let more light in and have better clarity, but of course you pay for it.

Since it's a combat assault rifle, I might suggest a nice red dot sight. No zoom, but much quicker target acquisition and still a lot better than iron sights. With my dad's M1A Scout and red dot sight I had 2" groups at 100 yds first time I shot it (with mil surplus ammo). The dot itself is only 1 moa so it doesn't cover your target, and has adjustable brightness and an infrared night mode if you feel inclined to wear night vision goggles. Plus they don't weigh anything compared to a scope.

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I agree.

How often will you be shooting at 400 yards? Ever tried it with a .223?

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I think an ACOG would be about perfect on that thing. I have one if you want to borrow it. I think it may still have some desert sand on it too for that authentic feeling ;)

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That's what I was thinking

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It really depends on what you are going to do with it. If you really are going to be looking to hit something at 400 yards I would suggest a 4-16 scope, 4-12 would be alright too. I have a couple of 3-9 and they are fine at 300, but I find myself wanting a little more zoom beyond that.

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But really how often are you going to be shooting out to 300-400 yards? An ACOG will still be plenty of zoom for that range and they are still easy to find your target up close. Mine even has iron sights on top of it for kind of a backup sight for very close shots. Looks just like this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...QL._SS500_.jpg



Plus it's a baller battle scope for your baller battle rifle. ;)

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I was leaning toward an ACOG honestly, but there are like 10 different flavors. I was thinking the 4x32 one, then you can mount a red dot on it too I think.

I really just don't want something super heavy.

Recommend on which ACOG?

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Well, I have one you can borrow you to see if you like it. Then there are a whole bunch of different styles and reticle options.

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K, maybe I will shoot you a text later this week and stop by on the weekend or something.

Thanks dude! Which one do you have? Model wise?

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idk, it's a 4x32, looks exactly like the one above except for it's beat up looking, and has a reticle like this, except for the red part lights up green in the dark on mine.

http://www.libertyoptics.com/contents/media/acfc603.jpg

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Gotcha, sounds good, Ill text ya later this week, thanks dude.

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Went to buy an ar and nobody has one in stock. Went to fleet farm in oakdale and the guy in front of me bought the last one there. So going to look at hand guns tomorrow.

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Gun Stop in Minnetoka had some AR15's available when I was there on thursday. 2 or 3 of them.

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They had 8 Huldras in at Fleet Farm here in Winona Saturday morning... Last night by 5pm they were all gone.

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Picked up a xd 9mm sunday for 450 bucks brand new. Hope to go shooting this coming weekend if I have time.

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I'm going though a local builder who got in some Aero receivers and will be having a nice setup built up on the next couple weeks. I'm going to do a second upper made for 9mm ammo once funds work out so I can shoot it more often, yet don't have to come down to a .22 since I have a nice Ruger for that already.

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A gun store I stopped in at in Oklahoma when I was down there (where I bought my SCAR) called and said they just got a SCAR 16s in (black one) if you wanted to go awesome style :)

I am a little upset that I paid 1000 over list for mine (at least I got FDE like I wanted) but I bet this one is around list unless they are jacking prices up too. If anyone is interested I could give them the number.

Goodhard I forgot to text you over the weekend, wanna meet up to let me borrow that ACOG buddy ole pal?

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Anybody going to the range this weekend?

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I'm always at the range

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I wish they weren't busy on weekends, but every time I have tried on weekends i wait there for like 1.5 hours then go home as I don't want to pay to shoot for 15 mins before they close.

If you go there on the weekend be ready to wait, super busy lately with everyone buying new guns as they all want to shoot them.

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http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/tod...08495#50208495

no AR was even used in the shooting.... Fuck you Obama

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Yea, I have Wednesday and Thursday off. Gimme a text.

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K, will do.

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I was at bills this weekend and it was packed. yeah gun sales are crazy right now. They built a bills in hudson Iam going tonight see how busy it is.