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95talonracer 04-29-2009 09:42 AM

Re: My Talon
 
My 6 puck sprung with a 2900 held up real well tonight at 27psi on my new setup and pulled extremely hard so I think you should be good with your new disk.

wheelhop 04-29-2009 10:57 AM

Re: My Talon
 
Good results for the boost and stock intake manifold on a 2.0L. Hey what brand dyno was this on?

sleepydsm 04-29-2009 12:02 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhop (Post 288522)
Good results for the boost and stock intake manifold on a 2.0L. Hey what brand dyno was this on?

Dyno dynamics, the heartbreaker.

sleepydsm 04-29-2009 12:04 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 288499)
My 6 puck sprung with a 2900 held up real well tonight at 27psi on my new setup and pulled extremely hard so I think you should be good with your new disk.

I can drive around right now and haul ass, my clutch doesn't slip. But when I did two launches/pulls immediately right after each other, it slipped the 2nd time.

wheelhop 04-29-2009 12:08 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Dyno dynamics, the heartbreaker.
:) yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.

sleepydsm 04-29-2009 12:12 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhop (Post 288544)
:) yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.

I don't think it's that high?

asshanson 04-29-2009 12:15 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhop (Post 288544)
:) yep. what, is it, 18% lower than a DJ? 400hp / .82 = about 490hp on a dynojet.

DynoJet reading 18% higher than DD != DD reads 82% of DynoJet.

400 * 1.18 = 472
400 * 1.16 = 464
(it seems a lot see between 16-18%, so between 460-470)

Good luck with the new clutch setup.

wheelhop 04-29-2009 12:16 PM

Re: My Talon
 
About 18% lower on DD puts you at 490hp. Click. 275.8hp on DJ. 224.7hp on a DD. And, 224.7 / .82 = 274hp. DJ read 275.8hp.

18% less than 100% = 82%

82% X dyno jet numbers = DD number

DDnumbers / .82 = dyno jet numbers

400hp / .82 = 490hp


Regardless, all the numbers are good. No biggie. 470whp is nice.

scheides 04-29-2009 12:18 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Enough math, where's the damn dyno sheet?

wheelhop 04-29-2009 12:23 PM

Re: My Talon
 
1 page back. That's where the 400hp number came from :p . 402hp, right?

scheides 04-29-2009 12:27 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz ;)

asshanson 04-29-2009 12:29 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Ah, I see you took the nasioc stats of DJ reads 21-22% higher than DD. Just personal experience I guess, I don't think we've seen quite that high between our two dynos here in Minneapolis. But another good reference.

+1 for a real dyno sheet!

wheelhop 04-29-2009 12:34 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 288555)
Don't be ghey, that's shane demonstrating his MS Paint skylz ;)

It looked funny. Why I asked which brand dyno :spin: . . .

Shane@DBPerformance 04-29-2009 02:41 PM

Re: My Talon
 
A DJ in SAE correction in AWD mode seems to around 15%-17% higher than our Dyno Dynamics. It's around 17%-20% for a DJ in STD mode depending on weather conditions. I am only talking AWD cars though. And it still depends on weather, strapping, how each dyno is run, etc.

There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.

FattyBoomBatty 04-29-2009 03:01 PM

Re: My Talon
 
I was misinformed about the AWD vs. 2WD thing previously, but I think that's because I always talked to you crazy evo and dsm people!

wheelhop 04-29-2009 04:32 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 288581)
There is a big difference in the math between saying X reads 18% higher than Y compared to saying Y is 18% lower than X. For example 550cc injectors are 22% bigger than 450cc, but 450cc are 18% smaller than 550cc.

Hence, my link to the nasioc dyno results showing that a DD reads about 18% lower thana DJ. Not that a DJ reads 18% higher :) .

If a typical DJ reads 18% higher than your DD, then you're DD could read a little higher than other typical DDs. No big deal. Just an observation. All dydnos even of the same brand will read different by +/-2 to 3%

Shane@DBPerformance 04-29-2009 04:52 PM

Re: My Talon
 
I wouldn't try to compare a Subaru as directly though with the way that those ECUs control timing, they aren't the most consistant cars from one run to the next.

The numbers from a DD will depend on inertia settings and load settings and the numbers from a DJ will depend on the correction used SAE, STD, DIN, Uncorrected, etc and the smoothing factor used.

wheelhop 04-29-2009 04:57 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL ;). I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.

sleepydsm 04-29-2009 11:16 PM

Re: My Talon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wheelhop (Post 288618)
Ah! I know just the silhouette of the scoobie platform. Makes sense. We can all agree the difference is over 17% however you want to do it. not bad. . . If the results are REAL ;). I'd like to see that dyno sheet too. Very interested in the curve shape.

Well I emailed that guy above (Ecoli) to get my graph but no response haha. I GUESS I'll call DB just so I can get it emailed to me.

wheelhop 04-30-2009 09:00 AM

Re: My Talon
 
Hey, just take a pic of your paper copies and uplaod the pics to photobucket or something. Easy enough.


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