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niterydr 04-29-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 288470)
Well the car decided to leave me stranded on Hwy 96 today. I was sitting there waiting to make a right turn, just idling, and it shut off on me.

Huge thanks to Nick (munchgsx) for coming and towing her home for me.

Car is turning over great, sounds like it has heathy compression, but won't fire up. Won't even come close to firing up, just cranks and cranks. My first thought was it wasn't getting fuel. So while sitting on the shoulder, I checked the ignition and MPI fuses. Both checked out good. I turned the fuel pump on via DSMLink, checked the fuel pressure and it was good, and I could feel the fuel running through the lines. So there went that theory. Got her towed home, and decided to check if I was getting spark. Kinda hard to do with just me and no helper. I unplugged the wires from the plugs, and set them right next to grounded parts of the car, figuring that when I cranked it over, if I have spark I'd hear some arcing. Well, I didn't hear a damn thing. So right now, it's looking like I lost my spark, somehow... I'll have to find someone to help me to verify that though. I'm thinking somehow either my coilpack or transistor died. Which might go hand in hand with my intermittent missfiring I was running into.

Put up a WTB add, so if anyone has a transistor, or coil pack, that I can borrow to see if it fixes the issue. please let me know ASAP!!!!!

See if you when you spin the Cas sensor you trigger the coils.

Halon 04-29-2009 09:44 AM

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I have no idea how to do that.

What I did read is that my RPM gauge should jump slightly when I crank the engine over. If the RPM's don't jump, that's pointing to the CAS. That'll be something I'll check as soon as I get home from work.

scheides 04-29-2009 11:01 AM

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I might have an ignitor, I'll have to see what year it's for. Pretty sure its for a 2G.

Halon 04-29-2009 11:54 AM

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Just got a text from Nick (munchgsx) and he said he thinks he has a spare igniter, coil pack, and CAS. So after work we'll see if any of those fix it hopefully :)

FattyBoomBatty 04-29-2009 03:08 PM

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Upgrade to a flux capacitor. They work awesome.

TheBlizzard 04-29-2009 06:39 PM

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Yeah I was going to suggest the CAS too, often when they just die abrubtly something like that happened. Seems funny it would just shutoff without showing signs before hand.

Halon 04-29-2009 06:40 PM

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Another big thanks to Nick. He stopped by with a spare Transistor, Coil Pack, and CAS.

Transistor was good, CAS was good, and the last thing we tried was the Coils, and vroooomm :)

TheBlizzard 04-29-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 288654)
Another big thanks to Nick. He stopped by with a spare Transistor, Coil Pack, and CAS.

Transistor was good, CAS was good, and the last thing we tried was the Coils, and vroooomm :)

Sweet.

Halon 04-29-2009 06:52 PM

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Also something showed up at my front door today :) Hopefully throw her on this weekend! It's the same height as my current one, but 2" longer, and .5" thinner. External fin spacing seems to be pretty "radiator friendly" which was my whole intent. I think I'm going to be real happy with it :D

FattyBoomBatty 04-29-2009 07:21 PM

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Upgraded intercoolers for all! That's nice that it was an easy fix. So I expect it'll be out tonight.

goodhart 04-30-2009 08:10 AM

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Have the new ignition components fixed any of the mis-firing issues?

A//// Guy 04-30-2009 09:58 AM

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Awesome that the coils were an easy fix! And sweeet on a new IC.

Halon 04-30-2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 288737)
Have the new ignition components fixed any of the mis-firing issues?

I don't know yet. It was raining pretty good yesterday and I'm not about to do some rippers on slick roads.

We'll see when it gets nicer out.

Halon 04-30-2009 09:16 PM

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Out with the old, and in with the new. You can see the new is 2" longer, and .5" thinner. Also you can see the external fin spacing difference, and how the ETS is a lot more "breathable".

Kracka 04-30-2009 09:19 PM

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Looks really nice Brandon! ETS makes good stuff.

carltalon 04-30-2009 09:40 PM

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I like your old IC's end tank design alot better. hopefully the wider openings between the rows will help with your cooling isues.

Halon 04-30-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by carltalon (Post 288852)
I like your old IC's end tank design alot better. hopefully the wider openings between the rows will help with your cooling isues.

I completely agree. The end tank design on my old one is why I went with that one instead of a Kinetic (SBR) one. IMO VPE had the best end tank design on a 1G back-door style FMIC out there. Too bad they aren't in business anymore.

But... The goal here was to get more air to the radiator. A small amount of performance may be lost, but that's ok, there is reason behind it.

Halon 04-30-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 288848)
Looks really nice Brandon! ETS makes good stuff.

Thanks biotch!

turbotalon1g 04-30-2009 10:15 PM

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Looking good in da neighbor hood.

Also your pushing coolant out the overflow, if not its just me.

4g63tcrazy 04-30-2009 10:33 PM

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I just switched my thermostat in the red talon to a 180 degree and drilled 3 small holes in it. That made a HUGE difference with my car getting hot.

Halon 04-30-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 288859)
Looking good in da neighbor hood.

Also your pushing coolant out the overflow, if not its just me.

Now I have 2 issues dude. For the last couple years, I have NOT been pushing coolant, just running hot, and I'm pretty sure it was a lack of airflow to the radiator.

Now this year, I think I have an issue with the new head I put on, because I am ALSO pushing coolant. I've never had that issue until this year. Don't get the two issues confused.

So this is to help issue #1. Issue #2 is why I have the L19's, and will attempt to take car of that issue next time I have a free weekend, and it's a rainy boring weekend.

Halon 04-30-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 4g63tcrazy (Post 288862)
I just switched my thermostat in the red talon to a 180 degree and drilled 3 small holes in it. That made a HUGE difference with my car getting hot.

Thanks for the tips. But if you search for my thread on here called Drilling Thermostat, you'll see I've been battling this for a couple years now, and the MANY things I've tried. I'm currently on a 160* thermostat, with 2 holes drilled in it. If you've seen my car, you'll notice I have a hood vent. I went to the extreme of cutting a deng hole in my hood because I started running out of ideas.

Quick run down of things I've tried
- a million different mixtures of coolant, water, dish soap, water wetter.
- 160 thermostat, drilled
- higher pressure rad cap
- burping system a million times.
- air scoop under the car
- aluminum radiator
- fans always on
- hood vent
- ceramic coating manifold and turbine housing
- heat wrapping manifold and turbine housing
- pressure tested the cooling system 2 times to verify no leaks
- researched and bought the best design water pump


Well considering I still have my A/C condensor, and I've started to realise that I started having these issues as soon as I got that VPE FMIC, I have good reason to believe it is simply blocking too much air for me since I still have a AV condensor. So this is just one more thing I'm trying in my never ending quest to fix this issue. And I think this will fix it.

Also, I have the ETS FMIC mounted and everything back together.! But ghetto style :( had to use a bunch of zip ties because they place their mounting ears in a spot that isn't too friendly if you have the pop-ups, and still have AC. I'm going to see what they recommend. If I get no where with them, I'll have to just come up with something on my own.

turbotalon1g 04-30-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 288864)
Now I have 2 issues dude. For the last couple years, I have NOT been pushing coolant, just running hot, and I'm pretty sure it was a lack of airflow to the radiator.

Now this year, I think I have an issue with the new head I put on, because I am ALSO pushing coolant. I've never had that issue until this year. Don't get the two issues confused.

So this is to help issue #1. Issue #2 is why I have the L19's, and will attempt to take car of that issue next time I have a free weekend, and it's a rainy boring weekend.

I just recognized the puddle, because my car is pushing now.
well at least you still have a chance of fixing it.

Halon 04-30-2009 11:04 PM

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Damn you're pushing coolant now too? Somabitch...

asshanson 04-30-2009 11:21 PM

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You're still having overheating issues? I didn't think there were issues on the cruise. I thought it was because the fans were on in reverse.

Halon 04-30-2009 11:25 PM

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The car ran fine on the cruise. But it was also what like 55 out or something? And I had my heater on. If I had my heater off, the car would have started to get a bit hotter for sure.

The real problem comes on those days it's 85 - 90 out. Nothing like driving home in that weather, with the heater on blast. Those days are the reason I left my A/C in the car, but I can't even use it because the car will overheat.

And I did find one of my fans had the fins on backwards. That seemed to help slightly, but still didn't fix the issue completely in the end.

scheides 04-30-2009 11:35 PM

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New FMIC looks good brandon!

4g63tcrazy 04-30-2009 11:39 PM

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Damn.. You've tried just about everything! That's really wierd it's still giving you problems.

turbotalon1g 04-30-2009 11:59 PM

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Pull AC if you don't use it. I'll take it. lol
4 guests on here, making power must make u cool

TheBlizzard 05-01-2009 07:05 PM

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Kind of a silly question but are sure the sensor isn't bad or something telling you it's hotter than it really is? Or have you tested that? Seems funny that it would run hot like that, even with an FMIC, if you have 2 fans it should be fine. Something just doesn't seem right.

Fuck just switch to straight meth, problem solved.

Halon 05-02-2009 01:04 AM

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I never tried new sensors. My reasoning behind that was this...

The sensor for the GAUGE is seperate from the sensor that sends the temp to the ECU correct? Well I not only notice the temp is high in DSMLink, but also the gauge reads higher then I'm used to seeing. So I had a hard time believing 2 sensors are both bad, and both reading slightly high.


Anyhow, I drove around quite a bit today with the new FMIC. I haven't been logging, just watching the gauge, and it's already running noticably cooler. Hell tonight, the gauge was barely over that first tick mark marking the normal range! Much much cooler then before. I'm very happy about that!!!

turbotalon1g 05-02-2009 02:05 AM

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^thats awesome man, good luck on sunday.

Pushit2.0 05-02-2009 02:12 AM

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Stupid turbulators blocking air flow to the radiator. To bad you do not have an AIT sensor at the TB to see if there is a difference in air temps for the different intercoolers.

Halon 05-02-2009 11:04 AM

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I do wish I did have a way to monitor it, oh well. From what I'm hearing though, even though ETS cores have a less dense external fin pack, their cores still perform real well.

Halon 05-02-2009 06:48 PM

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Got the mounting situation taken care of. But FYI, anyone with pop-ups, and A/C, this won't just mount up right out of the box with where they located their mounting ears. I just took a piece of angle aluminum and bolted it the full length of the ears, then mounted it closer to the hood latch. Worked out perfect.

Also, another big thanks to Momin at Elite. He put the final touch on the exhaust he built me, by adding a nice little tip to it. It sticks out past the bumper just a smidge, which is exactly what I asked for, so I don't have to worry about soot on the rear bumper anymore :)

Changed the oil today and put a few miles on her. I think I'm ready for RF tomorrow :D

A//// Guy 05-02-2009 08:37 PM

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Looks awesome dude! Love the tip. :D

Halon 05-02-2009 09:07 PM

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Not too often I hear that, yaknowwatimsayin...

GsXtUrBo98 05-02-2009 09:12 PM

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Congrats on the car!! cant wait to see what it does tomorrow!

FattyBoomBatty 05-02-2009 11:25 PM

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What a ricer! HUGE tip, big fake intercooler. Man, you went all in.

Halon 05-03-2009 12:17 AM

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Well, today things took a funny turn. Drove it to MAP's bbq, everything was good. Later at night got to Brownman's house to do some quick pulls to make sure the car is still at where I want it to be, and right before we were gunna head out, we noticed a funny sound. Sounded like it was coming from the cam gear cover.

Here's what we found.

Drove her home nice and easy, and a couple hours later had it all buttoned up. The timing belt itself needs to be changed, which will happen in a couple weeks when I redo the headgasket, and put the L19's in. But for now, T-Belt should still last a good while as is.

So needless to say, we never got to do any pulls, so that'll be something to do on the way to the track :)

Close call though, man am I glad we found that tonight, and not in Wisconsin.

And big thanks to Brownman for sticking around and helping me get this resolved!!


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