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polishmafia 03-01-2014 11:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ (Post 441634)
after loving Pete's.

Was it as good for you as it was for me? Giddity!

AJ 03-02-2014 09:13 AM

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pew pew

polishmafia 03-02-2014 11:05 AM

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LOL I dunno why, but this scene popped into my head.

http://static4.worldofwonder.net/wp-...boh9o1_250.gif

Murlo26 03-02-2014 04:00 PM

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Do you like the magnifier?

I am tempted to get an EOTECH with magnifier but people say its cuts your vision down pretty good. But I want something with the ability to hit further targets.

AJ 03-02-2014 06:35 PM

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I like mine as it's on a swing out quick mount for easy off or movement to the side.

19TsiAwd90 03-02-2014 11:39 PM

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just bought a ruger 10/22 for 219$ at cabelas today, got home and ordered a match grade trigger kit, match grade bull barrel and a stock to fit it! should be fun project. i think im going to build a ar15 next!

sleepydsm 03-05-2014 12:46 AM

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I want a .22 rifle but I can't find .22 LR anywhere so whats the point :(

asshanson 03-05-2014 04:03 AM

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I can't believe .22lr is still in short supply up there. I have a few thousand rounds at my house and I seem to be able to find more any time I want. I sent 500 of them as a gift to my brother in law and he was super excited so he could go shoot again, boggles my mind.

Maybe I should start a side business buying ammo here and selling to peeps up there who can't find it haha. Last time I think I bought a case of 5000 CCI blazer for $170ish.

EclipseGST 03-05-2014 04:22 AM

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I can get 500rds of 22lr for $20 at Fleet Farm (kinda like menards/home depot but with guns) here in Winona. Comes in about once a week or every other week. Limit 1 box per customer though.

I just picked up a S&W M&P Shield 40. Came with 100rds of critical defense ammo, 3 holsters, extended mag and has never been fired except from the factory. Paid $275. Definitely happy with that deal and the way it shoots.

I was waiting for the XD-s 40 but obviously they came out with the 4.0 9mm and will probably take forever to produce a 40 cal XD-s, if they ever do. Decided this would be a nice addition to the collection.

19TsiAwd90 03-05-2014 09:09 AM

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before my grandpa passed away he started buying ammo like it was going out of style, hes probably got 20k+rounds of .22 and 10K rounds of other miscellaneous calibers so when i need some i just go visit my grandma. hes go an impressive collection, i remember hear he lost count at like 58 hand guns... i know when holiday use to sell guns way back in the day and they decided they weren't going to carry them anymore he bought the inventory of marlin 30-30's from the holiday down the street! i bet he has over 150 guns in his house still.. even though hes no longer with us.

polishmafia 03-05-2014 10:22 AM

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I think I speak for everyone here... Take some pics of the collection next time you are there. It would be awesome to see!

1QUICK4 03-25-2014 10:42 PM

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Finally got around to de-neutering my M77 and making it compliant.



Modded an M14 mag to fit, replaced the FCG and threw on an AMD Brake until the Tabuk style gets here.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...psde8aa5a1.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...ps116c5c20.jpg

Now I just need to find some M70 wood

polishmafia 03-25-2014 11:33 PM

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That is a very cool looking weapon!

asshanson 03-26-2014 03:11 AM

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I love the thumb hole stock, not sure why some don't like it. Makes for good accuracy. Love the long barrel.

1QUICK4 03-26-2014 08:28 PM

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Should knock down a deer or two in my lifetime.

On another note, during my quest to expand my .357 magnum collection, I stumbled across a great deal from one of my tool guys

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...psd238462f.jpg

Ruger GP100 4" barrel

Still looking for that elusive 94AE in .357 though

C3L1CA 03-26-2014 11:18 PM

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Anybody have an used .45 acp shells laying around? I'd buy ya a beer or something!

Apparently people use those as ais block offs on my new project bike

Murlo26 04-17-2014 02:42 PM

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Anyone know of anyone that would want my SCAR 16s? I'd throw in ammo, pmags, case, sling etc.

paid a ton for it, would be willing to do 2300 for it probably, maybe 500 rounds or so through it.

I am trying to think outside the box on how I could maybe get the evo going. I think I like cars more than I like guns. The SCAR is awesome but i use it as much as I use my evo, meaning none. Two expensive hobbies (guns and cars) are not needed in my life and I will just use my 9mm pistol at the range to satisfy that urge when I get it.

I am not trying real hard to sell this but if it sold then I would put the evo back in action.

Feel free to PM.

1QUICK4 04-17-2014 06:52 PM

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Put it on armslist.

Every gun I've listed on there has sold within a month. Even the 'spensive ones.

Murlo26 04-18-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 443554)
Put it on armslist.

Every gun I've listed on there has sold within a month. Even the 'spensive ones.

Sounds good. My uncle might buy it, if not I will throw it up on there.

Just looked around at pricing, looks like SCAR's and for that matter all AR's have really dropped in price, must be some serious stock around the US. I think to sell mine I will have to drop to 2100 or even a bit less. Bummer...

Thanks for the advice though.

simulatedwood 04-18-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 443541)
Anyone know of anyone that would want my SCAR 16s? I'd throw in ammo, pmags, case, sling etc.

paid a ton for it, would be willing to do 2300 for it probably, maybe 500 rounds or so through it.

I am trying to think outside the box on how I could maybe get the evo going. I think I like cars more than I like guns. The SCAR is awesome but i use it as much as I use my evo, meaning none. Two expensive hobbies (guns and cars) are not needed in my life and I will just use my 9mm pistol at the range to satisfy that urge when I get it.

I am not trying real hard to sell this but if it sold then I would put the evo back in action.

Feel free to PM.

As weird as this sounds, the economist in me says keep the gun. Like homes guns tend to increase in value over time as opposed to cars which are pretty much cash burning dumpsters of poo long term. Remember the guns and butter analogy? :)

Murlo26 04-18-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by simulatedwood (Post 443567)
As weird as this sounds, the economist in me says keep the gun. Like homes guns tend to increase in value over time as opposed to cars which are pretty much cash burning dumpsters of poo long term. Remember the guns and butter analogy? :)

My brother is trying to talk me out of it as well. He said wait for the next gun scare then sell it for 5k lol.

The gun won't go down in value a ton but it won't really go up unless there is a shortage in stock or a scare of a BAN.

I am trying to weight the value of it. I guess I just like the idea of a running evo for summer more than losing money on this gun.

I never pretended to be good with my finances either, so the economist argument goes right out the window lol.

polishmafia 04-18-2014 11:48 AM

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Start being practical with your money and stop thinking about buying $800 grills. :)

Murlo26 04-18-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 443571)
Start being practical with your money and stop thinking about buying $800 grills. :)

I didn't, I bought a 350 dollar one :) I thought I did good on that one.

I sold some rotors that I had in my basement and bought a turbo/manifold for the evo. So now I just need some fuel and bolts ons and bam, its back up and running. So I figured the SCAR is a good way to fund that.

Kracka 05-28-2014 08:44 AM

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This past weekend I flew out to Philly/NJ to visit my grandpa and left with my great grandfather's WWI pistol that he carried throughout the war. It hasn't been fired in a long time (my dad was still a kid) but overall it appears to be in nice condition; it's been boxed up in the bottom of the closet. I also got the original US-issue leather holster, but forgot to take a picture of that.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/IMAG1395.jpg

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/IMAG1392.jpg

http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...m/IMAG1389.jpg

Supersize pics so you can read all the details:
http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMAG1395.jpg
http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMAG1392.jpg
http://www.dsmstyle.com/photopost/data/547/IMAG1389.jpg

A//// Guy 05-28-2014 09:24 AM

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That is super cool!

polishmafia 05-28-2014 09:49 AM

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Wow! Blows my mind how similar 1911s look today compared to back then. You just don't change a classic that is so well built.

Its hard to see in the first picture, but is there a manufacture date? I see 1902 and 1913, but I can't make out the text.

1G_DSM 05-28-2014 04:10 PM

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Nice WWI era 1911. It appears to be in great shape.

I wouldn't refinish it or anything. You should keep it in your family forever since it was your great grandfather's service pistol.

Some of those pistols are in museums.

Kracka 05-28-2014 04:31 PM

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Good advice, I plan to to just that! I do plan to get it back to firing condition though and take it to the range a few times since my great grandfather, grandfather, and father have all shot it.

1G_DSM 05-28-2014 05:37 PM

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It looks to be in really good. I wouldn't be surprised if it still shoots just the way it is. I wouldn't shoot any +P rounds through it though lol.

Hickok45 posted a video of himself shooting a vintage WWII 1911 on youtube a few days ago.

Kracka 05-28-2014 06:10 PM

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+P?

*edit*
Google'd it: http://forum.pafoa.org/general-2/356...e-up-what.html

Kracka 05-28-2014 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 445177)
Its hard to see in the first picture, but is there a manufacture date? I see 1902 and 1913, but I can't make out the text.

I'm not totally sure...like you saw, the most recent date on it is 1913. I know it was issued to him around 1917 so we'll call it somewhere in that 4 year window until I'm able to bring it to someone who knows these things better.

1G_DSM 05-28-2014 06:40 PM

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To put things into perspective here:

The Wright Brothers invented and flew the world's first successful airplane in 1903.

The Ford Model T was invented in 1908 and is considered the world's first mass produced and affordable vehicle.

World War I started in 1914 but the US entered it in 1917.

That pistol could be older than 100 years old.

twisted954 05-28-2014 08:16 PM

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http://www.colt.com/CustomerServices...berLookup.aspx


Insert serial number

For a more definitive history, you can write colt and they will provide more information about it's history.

Those dates are Pat numbers and do not correlate to the manufacture of the gun...but that IS an original 1911...the roll marks, lack of frame cuts for fingers, trigger and main spring housing make it completely original... according to colt, the manufacture date is 1918 so likely it was new and issued to him right out of the factory...which is also period accurate given the demand on production at the time.

That particular gun in that condition would retail from between 2-2500...possibly more considering the family story...and I would suggest contacting colt to authenticate my feelings on the gun. Collectors will fly a little higher when the gun has that kind of history.

Do NOT refinish it...NEVER refinish that gun...it will diminish the value tremendously. Also...I wouldn't recommend shooting it...it's a collector in this stage of it's life.

The two mags on the left are period from the issue date...the ones on the right likely are not...BUT are definitely old...if they are all colt marked...then they are worth good money too with the gun...possibly increasing the value further.

Mitsubishis and guns...two things I know enough about to keep me single

Kracka 05-28-2014 09:23 PM

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Wow, all great information, thank you very much! The insight is really cool to have as I know little to nothing about guns other than the basics.

polishmafia 05-28-2014 09:25 PM

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^I was going to add to what he said. I would not shoot that gun at all. If anything were to break, it would be a shame. If there are any stress fractures in the barrel, it could be dangerous to shoot.

If it were me, I would clean the gun (not refinish it, just clean it) and put it inside a glass case. And then admire it for who kept it on their side and where they went with it.

TkrPerformance 05-28-2014 10:55 PM

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Aly said very nice gun. Also said to see if there are any pics with him with it in the war and get a copy of his full service record to go with it. The more providence you have to go with the gun the more it will be worth. If you get all the info get it aprased so you can insture the gun in case anything would happen to it.

AJ 05-28-2014 11:11 PM

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That is a fantastic piece. Congrats on getting such a great item and having the family history on it!

My uncle got my grandpas old WWII handgun and flag and some service records/medals when my grandpa passed. He had the gun reviewed by a professional and after giving it a clean bill of health said to go ahead and fire it if he wanted. He said that as a collector he prefers to fire old guns he buys and will pay more for a working one than one that doesn't work. So I can see it either way, but yeah, only after knowing it's in good shape and would just need to be cleaned. In the end my uncle put everything in a shadow box and has it all displayed now with his flag. I'm sure he'll continue to keep it in the family.

1G_DSM 05-29-2014 01:33 AM

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Be careful cleaning it though. Some gun cleaners/solvants will take that patina right off.

twisted954 05-29-2014 01:51 AM

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It is a beautiful piece and I am a little jealous...I would agree...if you can find some pictures...anything to increase the history of it, the value increases...I will also agree that most collectors like to shoot their old guns...but there are a couple of schools of thought pertaining to the practice...if you are collecting for that purpose...or if that is something you need to do with your collection, then by all means, go for it...again, I would recommend a thorough inspection of the weapon...I cannot perform metallurgical analysis of the gun, but I can inspect it for wear/damaged moving components, if you like...but I am of the school of thought that if one doesn't care about shooting it, then don't...let the collector that buys it do that and take the risks...at that point, you have parted ways with it...that being said, I would personally keep it in the family...maintaining it as a shooter would likely require a host of new parts, decreasing the value...and beyond that, decreasing the originality and history of it. In all honesty...I would even advise against cleaning it...honestly, no joke...it's worth the most amount of money, has the most appeal and is, in my humble opinion, the most valuable, meaningful, historic, and just plain coolest it will ever be just exactly how it sits...and you will find virtually no 1911 enthusiast that would disagree with me. That little treasure should not be touched.

Lastly...most collectors who shoot their collection, are shooting revolvers, or action type rifles, ETC...auto loaders are another story entirely...springs, locking lugs, linkages, bushings are all wearable items and part of how the gun runs. They need to be replaced and with 1911's, they need to be fitted...which means material of the original needs to be adjusted to compensate for the replacement parts. Action type weapons are not so intricately balanced with wearable items...at least not in a capacity that could prevent proper operation...so one can use smaller load projectiles...essentially underpowered to impart the least amount of stress to the weapon...an auto loader wont work like that. If you run a short load in a 1911, the slide will not disengage from the lugs...it wont extract and eject and even if it somehow does, the slide might not engage the next round or slam it fully into battery...slam fires can also pop up on 1911's from sear wear...IDK...I can think of a hundred things that could go wrong. IF for some reason you needed to fire it, I would proceed as such:

Professional inspection for fitted components
Metallurgical inspection (this can often be performed by xray)
and I would then plan on shooting a single short load at a time...and make sure the round clears the barrel every single shot

With enough care, the weapon could be discharged and I agree...it would be awesomely cool...but take all the precautions you would afford a weapon like that...also, I neglected to mention...if you can scrape together some history with the gun, I would insure it for 5K...it could not actually be replaced making it worth much more than the average retail value

Kracka 05-29-2014 08:46 AM

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Thank you for all the words of wisdom! After reading all this I definitely have some thinking to do. I think my first step, if anything, will be to take it to a local expert and have it fully inspected. Makes me realize I should post pictures of the revolver I also have in my possession that was also passed down along family lines... I'll try and take pictures of that one tonight; way less history to it, but a nice gun none the less.


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