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Tauni 06-21-2006 05:25 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by HaredX
This isn't middle school Tauni, people don't do drugs anymore just because they think it makes them look cool, drugs get such a bad rap from all the media hype that people don't realize that drugs aren't used to gain a higher social standing, but to open our minds to different things and allow ourselves to see everyday events and objects in a different light. Again, I don't care that you are against drugs, but don't assume that the only reason people use drugs is to appear cool to their peers.
Oh honestly, is that how you took it? Maybe you take drugs to look at things in a "different light" but I'd like you to point out the coke heads and heroine addicts and meth heads who end up killing themselves. Oh yah, they were DEFFINATELY taking drugs to look at things in a "different light." That is the lamest excuse I have ever heard. And I'm not saying I'm against drugs. I'm against those who idolize them. Anything is ok in moderation as I have said before. I will admitt to smoking the occasional leafy green shit, but its something to do for fun, not to become addicted to or idolize. Period.

FattyBoomBatty 06-21-2006 05:27 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by HaredX
This isn't middle school Tauni, people don't do drugs anymore just because they think it makes them look cool, drugs get such a bad rap from all the media hype that people don't realize that drugs aren't used to gain a higher social standing, but to open our minds to different things and allow ourselves to see everyday events and objects in a different light. Again, I don't care that you are against drugs, but don't assume that the only reason people use drugs is to appear cool to their peers.

Yeah, yeah, stoner excuse. I've heard this a million times, because I work with a stoner, who surprisingly just quit for a different job. He's always saying, "pot isn't bad, it's better than booze!" Well! not only do you get retarded off it, you become slower, lazy and a social leach.

anyway, i think booze is the only smart drug, and then only in moderation, just like the commercials say. I usually drive to where I consume alchy and I HATE having to wait to drive cause I'm drunk.

You will grow out of your ways, young skywalker.

Tauni 06-21-2006 05:29 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Yeah, yeah, stoner excuse. I've heard this a million times, because I work with a stoner, who surprisingly just quit for a different job. He's always saying, "pot isn't bad, it's better than booze!" Well! not only do you get retarded off it, you become slower, lazy and a social leach.

anyway, i think booze is the only smart drug, and then only in moderation, just like the commercials say. I usually drive to where I consume alchy and I HATE having to wait to drive cause I'm drunk.

You will grow out of your ways, young skywalker.

Amen.

NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE 06-21-2006 06:12 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
Well, I don't think that HaredX meant that things like Coke or Heroin are used to open your mind, in fact I have no fucking clue why that nasty shit was ever invented. Thinngs like hallucinogens are used for that; that's what the 60s' were all about man. Coke, Meth, Heroin, etc is just fucked up and those are some of those things that we wish we could uninvent. And yes, other drugs are bad if you do them too much too, but you don't see things like towns falling apart to shit over something like Marijuana or Acid, usually it's those other ones.

HaredX 06-21-2006 06:14 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
Salvia has been around for quite a long time but it is very unknown for the most part. I learned about it by watching a news special on it on a local news channel. I have seen someone smoke it right in front of a cop before and there isn't shit they can do about it, but last I heard they are trying to make legislation to make it illegal.

HaredX 06-21-2006 06:18 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
Yeah, yeah, stoner excuse. I've heard this a million times, because I work with a stoner, who surprisingly just quit for a different job. He's always saying, "pot isn't bad, it's better than booze!" Well! not only do you get retarded off it, you become slower, lazy and a social leach.

anyway, i think booze is the only smart drug, and then only in moderation, just like the commercials say. I usually drive to where I consume alchy and I HATE having to wait to drive cause I'm drunk.

You will grow out of your ways, young skywalker.
Well then you are quite uneducated, aren't you? If you knew anything about alcohol you would know that excessive drinking can destroy your liver and kill you and you can die of alcohol poisoning by drinking too much at once, I would like you to find me one case in the history of the world where anyone has died from marijuana or smoked so much that they overdosed and died. Your "stoner" friend may be a pothead but he's obviously much more intelligent then you seeing as how he knows that alcohol is more harmful than marijuana. I know PLENTY of EXTREMELY intelligent people who smoke pot every single day of their lives, we're talking straight A's in school, dean's list, and advanced placement classes, you saying that smoking pot makes you slow and retarded just further proves my point that there are so many ignorant people on these forums.

A//// Guy 06-21-2006 06:22 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
It may be legal but I dont think it should be from what I can see it does to people. It huffing paint illegal because it seems to do the same shit?

I totally agree with tauni for once ;) And all the things that Lampshade posts are retarded, so this thread makes perfect sense.

Halon 06-21-2006 06:46 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
I have a few friends who's lives have been negetively affected due to Marijuana. Marijuana didn't ruin them all by itself, it's the fact that they started with Marijuana, and that just cracked their shell into the life of illegal drugs. They couldn't just stick with Marijauans, a year later it was crank, then acid, then meth. I've seen what happened to them, and formed my own opinion on using illegal drugs. I could care less what you guys and your friends do, as long as it doesn't affect me. But you won't find me taking anything illegal, or even LEGAL in this case.

tim 06-21-2006 07:11 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by ju-on
I have a few friends who's lives have been negetively affected due to Marijuana. Marijuana didn't ruin them all by itself, it's the fact that they started with Marijuana, and that just cracked their shell into the life of illegal drugs. They couldn't just stick with Marijauans, a year later it was crank, then acid, then meth. I've seen what happened to them, and formed my own opinion on using illegal drugs. I could care less what you guys and your friends do, as long as it doesn't affect me. But you won't find me taking anything illegal, or even LEGAL in this case.
Anyone who says pot isnt a gateway drug is full of shit. I have and am still dealing with friends whos lives have been ruined by drugs. I have one friend that I am in contact with from my childhood, all the others turned to drugs. First pot, then coke/crack, then cooking meth and doing heroin. In the last year 3 of my child hood friends have had their mugshots on the front page of the local paper because of it too.

Anyway, back to Salvia, I dont want any. I will stick to my beer too!

1QUICK4 06-21-2006 07:31 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
He's always saying, "pot isn't bad, it's better than booze!" Well! not only do you get retarded off it, you become slower, lazy and a social leach.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
I've seen way more "social leaches" that are major alchoholics than I've seen that are potheads.

How often has a homeless bum come up to you asking for change smelling like pot? Never, They always stink of vomit and cheap booze.

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
..anyway, i think booze is the only smart drug,
There you go thinkin' again ;)

And as far as Salvia goes... I've tried it and I wasn't too impressed.

Black97civic 06-21-2006 09:51 PM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by tim
Anyone who says pot isnt a gateway drug is full of shit.
Well, technically it isn't. The reason it is said to be a gateway drug is because of the lifestyle of the people surrounding it. There is no physical link between smoking pot and doing hard drugs. Alcohol and tobacco could also be called gateway drugs, because more people who smoke/drink end up using hard drugs, but not everyone does, so you have to see the other factors.

What made them do hard drugs, smoking a joint, or hanging out with the people who smoked the joint with them, and happened to have some coke/heroin that night. Catch my drift?

Edit: BTW, I'm not a pothead, nor am I defending/promoting pot smoking, just clearing up some misconseptions about the whole gateway drug thing...

Tauni 06-22-2006 12:05 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
For once I side with blue89quest. While its not chemically a gate way drug, it gets you in to much of a fucked up mind state.

And Haredx: There are exceptions to every rule. Look at the majority of pot heads? Social low lives is what most of them are. And how do I know? Because they were my friends. And they were all social leeches as well. But after graduation everything becomes clear of who is going where and why.

1quick4: Pot is harder to get and more expensive. How would a bum afford it? One more brilliant comment brought to you in part by Stoners of America.

Tim has it right on the tip of the needle, too. Why ruin your life with this shit? Its not worth it. Smoke a little pot for fun every once and awhile... Fine. Get addicted and let it lead you else where. Not fine. To me addictions show no self strength.

tim 06-22-2006 12:34 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by Blue89Quest
What made them do hard drugs, smoking a joint, or hanging out with the people who smoked the joint with them, and happened to have some coke/heroin that night. Catch my drift?
But what did the people that do hard drugs start out on? Pot is cool(to the user) until you get sick of it and want to try something else. I have heard both sides and I still think that if people dont try pot they will more than likely never try coke of anything else. Yes it is probably the people that surround them that are the culprits and not the drug itself but I still think people get sick of the pot feeling and want to try something else.

HaredX 06-22-2006 02:28 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
you are all retarded.

Jakey 06-22-2006 02:31 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by HaredX
I have been smoking for 7 years
You've been smoking pot since you were 12? Impressive.


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Originally Posted by HaredX
I have tons of friends who smoke pot on a regular basis(3-5 times a week) all of which are very driven and successful, they all have steady jobs and perfect attendance at work. My parents make $200,000/year combined and they both smoke pot on a regular basis, one is a lawyer and the other is a sales manager. I myself smoke multiple times a week and I am a bartender and make enough money to own my own condo, you guys can say whatever you want about drugs but saying that all stoners are low-life addicts that are going nowhere in life is just the most ignorant thing I have ever heard. Pot is in NO WAY WHATSOEVER a gateway drug, there are no phyiscal addictions at all associated to smoking pot despite what propaganda might tell you. I have been smoking for 7 years and pot is the only drug I use on a regular basis I have never and will never get into any hardcore drugs. All of you non-smokers don't have any foundation for any of your points you just personally don't agree with it so to you it has to be wrong, you all need to go watch Penn and Teller's Bullshit: War on Drugs and get some facts. Penn has never smoked pot in his entire life and he has never drank a sip of alcohol in his life but at least he is willing to do some research to find that marijuana is a harmless drug and by making laws against use and posession of it we are only creating more crime and murder by creating a black market.

Tauni 06-22-2006 02:45 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by HaredX
you are all retarded.
Then why again are you here? Personally I think we are all pretty cool. Maybe you are the retarded one.

Jakey 06-22-2006 02:51 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
Just in case it isn't obvious, my last post shows what HaredX originally posted before editing it out.

Tauni 06-22-2006 02:55 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
Yep he is retarded. If your dumb ass stopped to read anything I actually wrote you would KNOW why I say what I say.

Jakey 06-22-2006 03:02 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by T-T-Tauni
Yep he is retarded. If your dumb ass stopped to read anything I actually wrote you would KNOW why I say what I say.
Pardon?

Tauni 06-22-2006 03:03 AM
Re: Anyone ever heard of Salvia *NWS*
 
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Originally Posted by Jakey
Pardon?
Not you, him. He said inthat post that no one here knew what they were tlaking about because none of us did drugs or whatever.


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