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iceminion 07-29-2006 11:56 AM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by JET
...LS1 is sacriledge?

Nice choice of words, straight from this months Sport Compact Car! (Not that I read such a wussy mag)

But they put a LS6/LS7? in a 3rd Gen RX7....adding a total of 67Lbs or something like that. 350 HP vs. the stock >200 is a great deal if its that light!

I would put a turbo LS in my car, but there is no room, on the starion there might be tho.....

Speedfreak 07-29-2006 05:54 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
If you recall, I think I talked to you about it at the NSX/s2k meet. The price we talked about is about right. More for a really clean body. What journals are messed up? The ones in the head? I have a bare head sitting in my garage that is free and I'm pretty sure it's fine.

Yup, I do remember. I figured that was about right, but you never know until people more familiar with a specific model has input. I would let the car go for $500 as it sits.

Yeah its the cam journals. When I got the car the guys said the head just needs some work, and I towed it away on that premise. When I took it apart, I realised he was clueless. I really wanted to finish and drive this car because I've always liked them, but I have too many cars and too many projects.

1QUICK4 07-29-2006 07:14 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by Kougar
And as for the F-body comment: What would be easier to work on? LS1 in a conquest, or LS1 in the F-body. Hmmm...

Hahahaha... Obviously you've never worked on an LS1 Camaro. They are a PITA. At least in a StarQuest the LS1 motor wouldn't be halfway under the firewall.

FattyBoomBatty 07-29-2006 11:22 PM

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Yeah, it'd be completely in front of the firewall, the weight ratio F-R would be kinda messed up, but if you're making 500 horsepower on 89 octane it wouldn't be a problem.

Who doesn't love a big stupid v8? Remember, 'There's no replacement for displacement - except electricity!'

1QUICK4 07-30-2006 06:02 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by Shotgun!
LS7 or no LS...anything else is dumb.

Fuck that shit, 427 C5-R FTW!

Shotgun! 07-30-2006 07:30 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
Fuck that shit, 427 C5-R FTW!

Same thing meng...

FattyBoomBatty 07-30-2006 08:12 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
how about stock engine with multi-port FI and a large marge turbo and 400 whp daily?

JET 07-30-2006 10:18 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
Fuck that shit, 427 C5-R FTW!

Bah, that is SOOO last year! Warhawk 454 FTW! They have custom cast blocks and heads for them. And the oil runs the way it should, to the crank first!

1QUICK4 07-31-2006 10:07 AM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by Shotgun!
Same thing meng...

Correct me if I'm wrong but the LS7 is the 505hp ZO6 motor

The C5-R is a 700hp Crate motor from the Lemans C5-R

FattyBoomBatty 07-31-2006 02:43 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
They probably just milled the heads down a bit for that C5-R one.

1QUICK4 07-31-2006 02:45 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty
They probably just milled the heads down a bit for that C5-R one.

Nope, and it's a totally different induction set-up

FattyBoomBatty 07-31-2006 02:48 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
I was kinda joking. But if all they changed was induction, then that's really not much difference. Anyway, back on topic here - I'll tell you guys how much power a HyperU on stock everything else handles big boo-oost! (when i get that far)

Shotgun! 07-31-2006 03:23 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
Nope, and it's a totally different induction set-up

Word on the street is that they are the same block. I understand that they are different, one doesn't use pump gas:) We were talking about turboing the LS anyway. Throw a dog a bone...

JET 07-31-2006 04:46 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
No, they are definately not the same block. The C5R block is based on the LS1, the LS7 is very different. The LS7 is a bit more advanced, but the C5R uses better materials (and is $5k for a bare block). Doug Rippie Motorsports builds some sweet 'vettes. I have seen the C5R blocks down there in cars and in buildup.

Goat Blower 07-31-2006 05:22 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
Putting an LS1 in a Conquest would probably ~save~ you weight over the front wheels. They only weigh like 475 lbs dressed. That SCC article got me thinking even more of something cool to put one in.

Kougar 07-31-2006 05:43 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
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Originally Posted by 1QUICK4
Hahahaha... Obviously you've never worked on an LS1 Camaro. They are a PITA. At least in a StarQuest the LS1 motor wouldn't be halfway under the firewall.


That's what I'm saying man. Dropping the cradle to swap the engine (on f-body) vs pulling it from the top (with a swapped quest). I'm a GM Tech, I know the F-body good enough...

Shotgun! 07-31-2006 06:50 PM

Re: 4G63 in a Conquest/Starion
 
My point is this: The Conquest is a sweet little import, don't take that away from it by putting a LS mototr in it. If you want a Camaro, go get one. America can't make anything as sweet as the FD3S, that's not Mazda's fault. Don't punish an FD3S by putting a POS V8 in it. I think it's funny that the hicks are just now finding out that Amercan cars suck...but they can't get over that flat and gay sound the V8 makes. Yeah, an RX7 with a LS will destroy anything that came with LS. But it will also do that with the Triangle-filled Death Factory that powered it when it was bought. Fuck SCC. The Conquest is the shit without pushrods, thanks.

FattyBoomBatty 07-31-2006 07:03 PM

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