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Kracka 09-27-2006 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakey
90% of the DSM'ers have the Toonerz mentality of believing that everything on eBay and billybuttfuckintercoolers.com is God's gift to the forced induction world. Like Swanny said, it's not worth a company to invest money into.

Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.

niterydr 09-28-2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by S2kracka
Exactly, 95% of DSMers are not willing to pay for a quality product. They want the cheapest that that will "work" made by some guy in his mom's garage. Companies are much wiser to invest those R&D dollars into higher level cars.

And we are :).

Not saying we don't invest time into dsm's. We've invested hundreds of hours of research and development into the dsm's. Minus a few specialized, yet to be announced area's, we are pretty much done with R&D on that platform.
Now Evo's, WRX's, 350z's, C6 vettes, thats a different story.

niterydr 09-28-2006 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tim
Wow Jakey, that man really did his research and it definitely shows in his design. I wonder how come the other big competitors arent taking after his examples? I am sure it costs more but if the product is that much better it could easily be gained back.

BTW, what do Iowans know;)

Ya want to do my stress/strain homework for me?

Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.

tim 09-28-2006 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by niterydr
Sandcasting and investment casting isn't that expensive and is actually a much cheaper solution compared to forming endtanks for production items.
If we came up with a manifold kit for a platform we'd end up having it cast.

Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.

Jakey 09-28-2006 01:29 AM

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I have seen a endtanks that were formed out of sheet aluminum into a shape similar to the DV/DT endtanks but, even thought I'm far from an expert fabricator, I think it would be damn hard to match the continuity that a cast piece can provide.

niterydr 09-28-2006 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tim
Yes, but making it out of welded sheet alum is probably the cheapest yet, it shows in the cheap kits that are out there.

Cheap for 1 or 2, but when you start mass producing something that has curves....
Yeah sandcasting is the way to go.

Super Bleeder!! 09-28-2006 02:48 AM

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its too bad Albert got a real engineering job and stopped doing his side stuff. He actually works at Tial now i believe. :)

sleepydsm 09-28-2006 10:30 AM

Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
 
Yep, I've been looking around and I still think I'm gonna go with the Extreme PSI race kit. Is there really that much difference in "cooling ability" between the "race" and "street" core?

Super Bleeder!! 09-28-2006 12:17 PM

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61mm and up, race core.

Below that, a street core should be alright.

Jakey 09-28-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!!
stopped doing his side stuff.

Nope, check out his website.
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Updates:

Keep your pants on, there is currently a delay in the intercooler production, but that will change in the next few months.

sleepydsm 09-29-2006 11:11 AM

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Well I'd rather just have to buy ONE intercooler setup that can stay around when I move up to a Garret GT35R

Shane@DBPerformance 09-29-2006 12:26 PM

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I have a 5" thick one here with a high quality core that is rated to support over 1300whp. I was going to put it on a twin GT4088 turboed 7.0l Mustang.

niterydr 09-29-2006 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ecoli
I have a 5" thick one here with a high quality core that is rated to support over 1300whp. I was going to put it on a twin GT4088 turboed 7.0l Mustang.

Hehe, that intercooler is HUGE!

Swifty1638 09-29-2006 01:08 PM

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I would go back to the sls core anyday, if it wasn't for such long ass end-tank inlets, and curved couplers.

-A. Swift

Kracka 09-29-2006 02:26 PM

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SLS was using the same core as Buschur correct?

1ViciousGSX 09-29-2006 09:47 PM

Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by ecoli
I have a 5" thick one here with a high quality core that is rated to support over 1300whp. I was going to put it on a twin GT4088 turboed 7.0l Mustang.

I wonder.......that's allot of cutting........hum........

Super Bleeder!! 09-30-2006 02:22 AM

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^^ the thing is LARGE. 3.5" inlet/outlet. but i think it could be done!

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 09-30-2006 09:37 AM

Re: 1G FMIC Kit Suggestions?
 
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638
I would go back to the sls core anyday, if it wasn't for such long ass end-tank inlets, and curved couplers.

-A. Swift


Um you mean Slowboy core.

Swifty1638 09-30-2006 12:45 PM

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yea, duh. I would not use their pipes, or couplers, but make my own-not too hard, when you have a friend that welds. I'd also cut those end inlets shorter, so my alternator doesn't chew through anything (though, i want to move it to the back). I guess we will see what core I go with next. I need to start looking eventually.

-A. Swift


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