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You should def. look into a 2003 Evolution or the subaru WRX,They have come down some in price and at least then you can rock the AWD and keep the turbo! :D

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Toyota rocks, allan is retarded. I love my corolla.
Yeah, listen to these guys there is so much out there for that price range, def. get out and drive some other cars before making your decision.

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well I drove a 2007 Subaru WRX wagon :D that was fun, 22k retail if I were to go with an 06 model. that is gettin up there in price, but Boost and AWD makes me happy :P
I guess I'll keep trying until I decide

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Search the lots for a brand new leftover '06. Chances are you can get it cheaper than they are going for used, plus you'll get the full warranty and a lower loan rate.

Use www.edmunds.com to get quotes from all nearby dealerships; its the best way to start shopping for a new car IMO because then you can pit them against each other and really bargain them down in price.

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side note on the Subaru thing. I've heard they are not as reliable as the steadfast Toyota or Honduh. and that they aquire some odd problems later in life

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They are not as reliable or as well built as Hondas or Toyotas, they are cheaper for comparable models. If you buy new or practically new with a warranty though I see no reason to worry. Subaru's seem to hold their value pretty well.

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Get out and test drive a mazdaspeed 6! ;)

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This is the best idea yet, I have seen them going for $22-24k brand new.

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Fuck Toyota? Please tell me you're not serious... First of all do you know who makes Mazda's? If you want a long lasting cool looking car go with the TC.

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Mazda makes Mazda's in a joint venture. If you are looking at a Tc, I would look into a Spec V too. I do agree on the Speed6 though, it is a great bang for the buck.

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I was fucking around when I first said fuck Toyota, but since I ruffed some panites I'll say it again, Fuck TOYOTA!

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Oh, and the Mazdaspeed is 100% Japan built and shipped over here. Ford does not have their normal part in the Mazdaspeed6.

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Not to be hating on the Speed6, but why not look into a speed3? 14.8 second 1/4 and a 0-60 i belive in 5.8 seconds? Been a day since i read the magazine, so my mind is sliping. But i'm looking into either a WRX or a Speed3 in the months to come, the speed3's should be available at mazda dealerships by now. But i havn't checked to look.

Fully decked out with navigation package and all the toys... $24,800.

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the 3 is FWD and the 6 is AWD. That was enough to make me not wait for the 3 to come out.

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...same engine too, except the 6 makes more power stock.

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It needs to, it weighs twice as much! LOL

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I've read 2 mag articles that stated the 3 made more then the 6 i thought. Either way, at 3100 lbs and a FWD LSD i know it's faster then the piece of shit Ford i drive. And more reliable then the DSM.