From what I've heard once again..it's the larger one but im not 100% on that.

what's the URL for that Xrated site?

you mean the T51R-KAI? i doubt it, or else he would have put that on his lisence plate......bwhahaha

www.xratedcc.com

The T51R-SPL is the bigger one. The T51R-KAI is only medium huge. :)

so there are a few people wanting to hang with them man.... i wish i had the funds to be up there. seems like its all about the money game here.

money is half of it.
Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go today?
The other part is driver, throwing money at a car WILL NOT make it fast, throwing money at a system, properly applied, with a good driver, and luck, will make the car fast.
Im not saying shit on this, just hoping to get something done to the stealth this year ;)

OH you didn't say it! I hate that stupid saying "speed costs money how fast BS" It is not always true and is way over-used. There are a few out there who don't need to spend cubic dollars to make a car kick @$$, most of the time it is true, but it is one of those blanket statements that just doesn't work for me. Especially in the DSM world, you can fly on a pretty tight budget, that is one of the best things about these cars.

The rest of it is pretty much true of course. And you really should put that freaking barge on a diet. Although it does pretty well now for 2 tons of fun.

You can go fast for less but you basically have to turn your car into swiss cheese on wheels.

the whole Money to go fast I think is for those that like to run there cars in street trim. Full interior, stereo, bla bla bla...


When it comes down to it. It's all just Power vs. Weight. if your car weighs less the less power you need to go fast. If it weighs more the more power you need.

For me my car weighs closer to swanny's car. around 3700bls with stereo and chrome rims.

-brian

I think what Mikes getting at is there are a lot of things you can do to make your car faster w/o having to buy a wish list of parts.

Sure you are going to have to spend some money for some quality parts/maintenance, but it costs a lot more money to go fast if you don't know what hell you are doing.

If you know how to fabricate, tune, build a setup only with parts that are necessary and that work well together, and put it into a chassis that can get the power to the ground, you put together a pretty quick machine. Doing your own maintenance is also a must.

Just look at the mod lists of some people's cars and then how fast/slow they are. It can get pretty ridiculou$.

Knowledge, experience, automotive skills, and a lot of research is what makes a lot of cars fast not the amount of money.

I'll get off my soapbox now. ;)

wtf? get the hell off my back guys. I didn't tell him he needed to spend 'cubic dollars' just that some money is required (weather it is tuning aids, hole cutters for raptor mods, tools to remove shit, whatever the case). Many cars can go fast on a budget, trust me I am the president of the ultra budget/broke ass racing team.

I wasn't aiming my post at you Josh. Mike just got me all riled up with his post and I felt I needed to chime in. :rant: ;)

Now to get back on topic, I'll be down around uni looking for some races this year. I'll also make it to most of the tracks a couple times including Grove Creek on friday nights.

Now, off to get some more coffee. :banana:

yeah, i will also be looking forward of Rock falls every time i can, no missing times either.. because that satisfies my craving for adrenaline for few days...

-E

other days i'll just have to go walking wrong way on he highway.. that ought to satisfy my adrenaline cravings :)

Get your panties out of the twist josh, I just hate that saying because it is way over used and for the points Jim brought up, not always true. It is always stated as some big absolute when in reality it is far from that. There are other ways to go fast cheap than just cutting holes in stuff and people should really get off that kick. Anyone that believes that swiss cheesing a car is all I know how to do is in for a rude awakening this summer. And I will definately put money on it.

Man you always want to put money on things. We all know Mikes got a bag of trick. Can't wait till you get the money to make those tricks happen.

The swiss cheese thing is just an added bonus. Meaning your already starting with a lighter car.

-brian

You still have to spend something, nothing happens for free.

Got that right!

My friend dave and possibly my friend kyle will be hanging with them also both have dsm's...

I'd race if my GS was fast...