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v8klla 02-19-2010 01:36 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 325644)
I heard only people that want high numbers and consistent comparable results that can't be "fudged" by the operator use a Dynojet:wank:

Fixed ;) Sorry for the thread hijack!

C3L1CA 02-19-2010 01:40 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?


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Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 325647)
Fixed ;) Sorry for the thread hijack!

Hmmm, not exactly what I wrote :jackoff:. But I'll leave it alone since this isn't my thread.

Murlo26 02-19-2010 01:56 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 325649)
But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?




Hmmm, not exactly what I wrote :jackoff:. But I'll leave it alone since this isn't my thread.

I am using a double pumper with the red. So yea, you probably need one on the black. E85 is demanding.

t-revzr 02-19-2010 01:57 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Well im on E85. I have heard the walbro 255 doesn't really work past 430 whp on a mustang dyno. So if I wanna push my car farther I was told to get a double pumper. Because I guess I would be fine with pte 1000's and a double pumper. Or maybe I'll just get FIC 1250's and run one pump. But if that dont work I could of saved money and not bought the injectors and just bought the double pumper.

t-revzr 02-19-2010 01:58 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 325651)
I am using a double pumper with the red. So yea, you probably need one on the black. E85 is demanding.


Ya Im kinda stuck dont know what to do!

Murlo26 02-19-2010 02:01 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 325653)
Ya Im kinda stuck dont know what to do!

I got a blaqops one, they are real nice, pretty much what all the Evo X guys use. They make them for the 8/9's too.

I would personally get the double pumper and never look back.

At a minimum, with that size turbo you have, you should re-wire your 255 in tank so you can get more voltage out on it. Or as Shane had suggested for me at one point, you could do a KB boost a pump.

I still think a double would be clean and easy, but who knows.

t-revzr 02-19-2010 02:04 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
KB boost a pump never heard of it?

Murlo26 02-19-2010 02:05 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
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Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 325656)
KB boost a pump never heard of it?

http://www.kennebell.net/accessories...boostapump.htm

It's actually not a bad idea.

t-revzr 02-19-2010 02:09 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 325657)

Thanks for the info!

Murlo26 02-19-2010 02:11 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 325658)
Thanks for the info!

No problem, ask Shane about it if you have more questions. I know he is familiar with them.

C3L1CA 02-19-2010 02:19 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
The boost a pump is a pretty easy way to go really. I make a little more than 500 on just boost at DB on e85, single 255hp, 1600s, stock fuel filter and lines, and a great tune. This is on a dsm, but I would imagine it would transfer over to an Evo the same way. I learned the idea from Shane and I know they (DB) has sold and installed a lot of them. Might be a simple/cheaper route.

I wanna see what this thing can do once its all finished up!

scheides 02-19-2010 02:23 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 325649)
But how much bigger is the FP Black compared to the FP Red? Do people really need the double pumper with the black?


FP Black has a 82mm compressor wheel and the Red is a 76mm. Actually, the black has the same compressor as your DSM82 turbo (but in reverse rotation).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 325657)

If you max out your pump with thse 1250s, this is the way to go IMHO.

Murlo26 02-19-2010 02:24 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
I think the boost a pump is cool and looks clean. However, the nice thing about the double pumper is you future safe yourself. I think the FPblack will be able to max out the Boost a pump...but I could be wrong.

t-revzr 02-19-2010 02:27 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Just got off the phone with Shane. Were just gonna leave it how it is for now. When tuned will go from there and figure out what I should do next.

Murlo26 02-19-2010 02:33 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 325670)
Just got off the phone with Shane. Were just gonna leave it how it is for now. When tuned will go from there and figure out what I should do next.

That works too. Can't wait for numbers, should be sweet.

mlomker 02-19-2010 02:45 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C3L1CA (Post 325665)
The boost a pump is a pretty easy way to go really.

Interesting product but I haven't read about any Evo builds that use them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 325647)
Fixed Sorry for the thread hijack!

Consistent or not it does read higher than the other AWD dynos in town. I'm planning to run my car on all of them when my power mods are done...just for giggles.

goodhart 02-19-2010 02:47 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
DB also has Boost a pumps on sale right now Shane said


Quote:

Originally Posted by v8klla (Post 325647)
Fixed Sorry for the thread hijack!

Consistent and Comparable to what? Another Dynojet?

Dyno Dynamics are still better from a tuning standpoint, and any dyno can put out huge numers, all you have to do is change the correction

I hope you're not implying that Shane "fudges" the numbers...

scheides 02-19-2010 03:17 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
BAP's have been in use forever and ever, Mellon used one on his evo8 for a LONG time:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/service...-reviewed.html

turbotalon1g 02-19-2010 03:51 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
BAPs might even be older than evo's!!

DD load bearing dyno = awesome for SD style tuning.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-19-2010 03:56 PM

Re: T-revzr's Evo
 
BAPs are old. We have to use them on a lot of returnless style fuel systems with a stock fuel pump also, because Walbros often burn up when run on a returnless/deadhead fuel system. Me and Brad use them on our DSMs, Nate uses one on his 700whp Civic and Kiggly uses them or something like them on his 8 second FWD DSM.


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