Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

You just answered my question. I seek over that hp range on my stock un-sleeved block :)

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Amen...best reading in this post so far.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFF2bkiHNVQ

Hmm... I see a subaru. not an evo as choice for ken block

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Can you say sponsorship dollars?

Also, people need to get over the Ken Block leg-humping. He isn't the greatest driver to ever grace motorsports with a presence.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Hands down the evo engine engineering is better.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I'd race toyota...they never stop accelerating!

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjb...eature=related..id take the evo still I already have a car good for dirt I need a track/street car and the evo wins there.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Where is the sponsorship dollars from mitsu? Haven't seen much lately...

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I'll agree with the "Ken Block isn't the greatest driver" comment. Seems he's totalled 2 wrx's in the last 2 Ojibwe's. Plus, he drives for Ford now anyways.

Subaru's do have an extremely safe body structure. Ask Mark Utecht about that. During a blizzard he got into something like a 20 or so car pileup on I35. He ended up rearending a one ton pickup (cracking the rear diff on the truck) and then was rearended by a one ton carpet van. Afterwards he could open and close ALL 4 doors.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Mitsu pulled out of rally years ago, I believe Subaru may have now as well (or at least cut way back).

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Funny thing is, is that ken block drives a Ford now. That statement holds no weight. Kracka is right. Sponsorship money.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

My list:


Evo:
1. Can go a lot further on the stock turbo
2. You don't have to pull the engine just to swap cams
3. Can easily handle 30+ psi of boost on stock head bolts
4. IMHO, Evo is better looking
5. Take mods better.
6. Evo ECU isn't NEARLY as picky.


STi:
1. Sound cooler
2. Make torque easier
3. more sideways/flat billed hats
4. more bright colored wheels


That's about it for me.


whew. Settle down.

Accomplish? nothing really... I just wanted to get everybody's opinions and see what the owners of each type of car think is better than the other. Remember, I drive a Subaru...


Really, I see ken Block in a FORD now.

Spent in engineering apparently. :D

+ elleventy bazillion on the ken Block nutswinging. Just stop already.


Safety features? meh, both cars do horrible in all the crash tests, be realistic, no one buys either car for their safety features.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

subaru dropped him and than dropped out of wrc completely. hes really good at crashing cars...$$$

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

im not angry i just dont think there is a right or worng answer and some people are not open to other peoples opinions..some people like to have large E-peens.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

My comment wasn't about crash tests. It was real world testing. It is a consideration of some. I know most people will buy a car depending on reliable power and good handling characteristics. But I thought I would add one other side of things. Don't have any experience with Evo's in real world crashes so I left that out of my comments.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Subarus seem much more solid in accidents. Not a deciding factor for me, but always something to consider.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

some results added to 1st post.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I think evo's are better from a modding perspective. the engine has much more potential and a better bang for the buck upgrade path. I'd also give the evo the edge in suspension design. both cars have essentially the same brakes so that's a wash. depending on what year cars you're talking I'll take the STI's 6spd gearbox and drivetrain. I also liked the STI's interior slightly better with the exception of the fatboy seats. The STIs frameless windows annoy me too.

I'd take either one - I don't really have a major preference aside from the fact that I own an STI. Subarus in north america have better rally support not only from a parts perspective but from a factory perspective. SOA mails me a $200 check just for showing up at a regional rally held in conjunction with a national. So that's $800 subaru has paid me in the past 8 months. Hell, even Mazda has factory contingency money in US rally...

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

WTF? just trying to create drama?

On subaru forums

What makes a STi Better then an EVO?

Just creating hate...

On a side note I am not a Ken Block follower but I just wanted to point out I don't see many Evos being driven like that anymore. It probably has to do with sponsorship but come on I want to see what the evo can DO!!!

The best car out of the bunch is the Evo 6.5 IMO
http://www.uweb.ucsb.edu/~tlduong/kevinh3.jpg

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I think you need to take a history lesson first, and then look at this question.




It's all about personal preference. Some evo's can do things better that some STi's can't, and vice-versa. They've both been very good at WRC, autocross, tracking, you name it.