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Leather yes, but cruise for sure. I still cant believe that the evos havent had cruise.

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Cruise is a must but a sunroof is just another weight addition.

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The EVO X is by far the best looking Mitsu since the 3000GT. I really like the direction they took with the new EVO. I'm definately getting one when it comes out. Its probably 6 to 9 months away from showing up at dealerships.

later,
Curt

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That right there tells me Mitsu F'd this one up. :p

If I look at it as a new car all by itself it's pretty cool, but I'm pretty worried they missed the mark as far as what's made the Evo a success in the past. The Evo VII-IX is 250-300lbs heavier then the Evo VI. The X is another 200lbs on top of that. My bet right now is that this car won't be as popular/successful in motorsports which IMO was the Evo's bread and butter, but I guess we'll have to wait for real numbers before getting to excited. Plus there's always hope the RS will be 200lbs lighter. :D

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I could see the RS being a huge difference with the Evo X, if they drop all the automated stuff. Go back to the IX drivetrain and it should be a lot lighter. That could really get me interested. We'll have to see how it plays out.

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Why do I keep thinking Cobalt SS?

It would be nice if Mitsu dumped the old 4G63 into a more affordable platform. Just some piece of shit with an AWD 4G63 (aka Eclipse). It doesn't need Super-Duper AWD System 5.0, race suspension and come ready to take to a rally. Hopefully they also figure out how to keep the new Evos from rusting instantly too.

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Yeah, it needs cruise for sure.

As for the extra weight, I don't really care aslong as it handles better and is faster than the current EVO which it sure sounds like it will be. The 50% stiffer chassis is great too. How the car handles the weight is a whole lot more important to me than the actual weight.

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I hate to say it... and I waited a while to see if it would grow on me, but I'm thinking I'm gonna buy a IX before they stop selling them, personally I can't stand the new design :( To each his own I guess, I'm glad people like them though, maybe Mitsu won't go out of business for a while yet, haha.

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http://www.lancerproject.com/

A little more info and more pictures. Alot of the pics are of the regular lancer though.

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That part covers one of those safty thingys called a crash bar. Not that DSM'ers don't ditch it all the time anyways.

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Hey, don't get mad at me.... I did make you buy a car that looks like a Ford Focus. :D

later,
Curt

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Just a safty thingy? Well shit rip that fucker right out then.

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I completely agree with that. That's why I'm looking forward to them coming out with that RalliArt version that's supposed to be more comparable to a standard WRX. Screw the supercar handling, the HID's, the leather, electronically controlled drivetrain. Just an AWD car, with somewhat decent looks, with a decent motor. Hell give it pop-ups too!! :)

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Sounds boring....like a WRX. It would sell quite well I'm sure since it would appeal to the masses and Mitsu definitely needs some sort of stepping-stone between the regular Lancer and the EVO. Appealing to the masses is not what the EVO is designed to do.

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Well I don't consider a GSX boring. And that's all I'm looking for. Something comparable to the DSM's. A good platform, doesn't need brembo brakes, a carbon fiber spoiler, and some super suspension. Just something that has a decent platform, and is affordable, and has decent looks. I don't road race, I suck at it, and I am not comfortable taking sharp turns at high speeds. I like accerating real fast! So keep the electronically controlled drivetrain, keep the HID's, the recaro seats, and the big spoiler. Give me something like what the DSM's were, cheap, fun, and easy to build upon.

But I'm not saying I don't love evo's. I think they are great, I just can't afford one at the moment. If they came out with that RalliArt, well in 4 years, I may be able to afford one.

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Brandon, buy an SRT4 :P

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You must have missed where I said AWD ;)

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I agree. They definatly need a stepping stone between the regular Lancer and the Evo. I can't figure out why Mitsu doesn't do that. Subaru had pretty wood success with the WRX, so I would think Mitsu would do well with a similar car.

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They had a concept called the Tarmac. Not sure what happened to it, guess they just figured people wouldnt pay Evo prices for something smaller than an Evo...or maybe they just didnt want to make a car that was slightly cheaper than the Evo that outperformed it because it was lighter.

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I wont be buying one. But I sure am going to drool over it. I can see were B is going at on this. The reason why the Evo VIII and IX's were spendy is because all that extra stuff. Custom Recaro seats Brembo brakes...Carbon fiber wing. They should of just went back to the 3/S wing that looks the same, and used it. They had a deal with Enkei I think with the Ralliart Lancer rims. So keep the rims. But the brakes, seats, and carbon wing screw all that. And that three setting center dif...did it change anything? Bah...I rather see Mitsu dig out of a hole then go deeper. Thats my 2 cents.

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i would like to have one of those HKS eclipses. AWD 4g63 thats all i want lol

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I really don't understand you guys bashing all the special parts (brakes, wing, seats, electronics, etc.) on the EVO. Those things combined are what help make the EVO a special car. If you think a DSM is the ultimate car then fine, stick with it, but don't expect the rest of the world to not want progress. Braking and cornering performance are VERY important aspects of a sports car and I am willing to pay a premium price for a car that can outshine its competition in those categories. Interior is another important aspect to me, I do not want a tin can with a lawn chair bolted down; I want a well laid out interior that can hold me comfortably during spirited driving and still look nice and comparable to other cars in its price bracket. I am also all for the electronically controlled suspension and drivetrain aslong as it's beneficial to performance; yes it may weigh extra, but at the same time the benefits often times more than compensate.

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This is the end of an era (4g63). :(

I am excited but cautiously optimistic about the performance capabilities beyond stock of the new evo engine. I don't know if it will live up to the potential of the 4g63 but it would be damn cool if it does. :)

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Swap a 4g63, problem solved.

I agree with s2, without the technology that the evos have packed into their awd system you wouldn't be able to achieve lap times that they do on road coarses. Plus the evo reflects its price tag now and actually looks somewhat like a luxury car with the changes they have done.

Hands down the best evo ever produced was the EVO VI though...

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Agreed 100%, but I think the typical DSMer mentality is fast/cheap. So looking at a 30k+ evo is not appealing to some. They are just trying to find reasons to bring down the price. 1G's were upper teens and 2G's were low to mid 20's for pricing when they came out? That was over 10 years ago though, how can you expect Mitsu to make a decent car for cheap? Hell the fully loaded new eclipse goes for close to 30k!

Engineering costs money, and the Evo is packed with it. If you want a tin can go fast machine, then stick with a DSM. I have my standards, and even the current Evo doesnt touch them with class, style, comfort, and features. The new Evo reaches out to more people this way, and the people who moved away from DSM's are getting older now, they may sway over to this new platform because of the refinement.

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I think an in-between wrx type model would be great, for those of us who want no computers to do the driving for us and especially dont want to pay for it.

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Anyone heard any speculation on pricing yet?

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Ok so with all that said the price for this Evo better not go past 30k. If its almost as much as a vette sorry I rather go get a vette. Or a Ghoat if they still make them by then. Its nice to see all that cool stuff put into the car. But they have to keep the price in reason is what I am saying.

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Did I ever (*&ing say I didn't like EVO's, or think that this new one was bad or or bash anything? No I didn't. All I'm saying is I CAN'T AFFORD ONE. If I could, I would buy it, and all the great things that it comes with. But I can't, so a toned down version without the name brand steering wheel and the other goodies, to get it in my price range, that is what would interest me. I guess you failed to see my point, forget it.

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I'd almost be willing to put down some cash that it will be around 30k or more. BTW, a new z06 is 70k+. I honestly think the X is unglier than sin, and the open deck motor is deffinatley a turn off. There's people saying "just put in a 4g63 again", and other statments similar to that.... But in the end, it's a BRAND NEW car, and there aren't many people that are going to tear their brand new evo x into pieces to turn it into something that they could have just bought a few years before, and at a much cheaper price now that it's used with only a couple thousand miles on it..... Only my opinions though, so take it how you want to. I personally won't be considering one anytime in the future

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I don't think the price will be anything less than 35k to start. If you look at similar cars in that "type" like the MazdaSpeed6 the GT version is compareable to the EVO X with all the options. And those cars had a sticker price of 33-35K. The EVO will have more appeal to it, more power, and probably handle better as well. While the Mazda's lacked promotion, the EVO's will not, that shit will be all over the Autosports world and it will be wel marketed. Production will probably be limited as well, and you can expect them to not be very bendable on prices for some time.

I think a 20-25k version of the Eclipse with AWD & the 4G63 would hit the fucking spot.

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HAHA Good luck...!!!

The current IX RS goes for 29K MSRP and the IX MR jumps to 36K MSRP right now brand new!

My guess is 35k and up for the new Evo. Its going to be spendy!

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I wasn't trying to insult you B. I agreed with you that a toned-down version would sell good. I mainly was aiming my post at the people saying the the EVO should be the toned-down version without all the extras.

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The X will be $35k+ for sure, you can barely get a current RS for under $30k and that thing is pretty stripped down. Have you driven a GTO? Nothing special in the least (my dad purchased his brand new for $22k by the way, dealerships will discount those things pretty deep if you really work them). Its a decently comfortable cruiser that goes fast in a straight line; problem being it stops about as quickly as a train and isn't very manuerverable. It'll hold a long sweeping corner fine, but when you try and transition the weight and head another direction quickly good luck.

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I agree, but it isn't like it would be a huge waiste of money. Either sell the engine on eBay with 0 miles on it and let the bidders know what you are doing or hell even swap your built dsm engine into your new evo and through the evo engine into your DSM if it would fit.

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Right.... Because all of these engines and chassis are interchangeable and anyone off the street can swap them.... :rolleyes: Yes, ANYTHING can be done w/ enought time and money, and if it's REALLY what someone would want to do, more power to em'. Just realize that the kind of swaps your talking about are not near as easy, or cheap, as you would think. Besides, if everyone would want to swap a 4g63 into their evo x, who the hell would buy the evo x motor?

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TKR would, and he'd swap it into a fiat or something probably, along with the complete Electronic AWD system!!

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I disagree, I want a sports car, not an Audi with a trumped up motor. Mitsu can spare the technology, the price, and the weight. Think Evo RS, minus two doors and make the chassis a little smaller. No thanks on the active diff, electronic suspension, suede dash, sunroof, etc.
I like my VR4 a lot, but I still think Mitsu could have done better with everything they have made.

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The current Evo's AWD system is actually far more complex than the current Audi S4.

And its supposed to handle better, drive better and be faster than the current Evo, so how is that not a sports car? So is my M3 with is wood grain interior and heated seats not a sports car? Nots sure whats the definition exactly. Lack of ammenities and features do not make one car a better sports car than another

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I'm with Peter, as its looking right now the X is going to dominate the current EVO in all catagories (as it should since its a completely redesigned model). If it can do that while also adding more style, class, and creature comforts then whats the problem? I for one have zero interest in the EVO RS, I don't want a stripped down rattle box that still costs nearly $30k. If I were building a pure track car then sure, but not if its something I'll be spending time in every day. Why wouldn't you want things that help you go around a track more quickly? I remember when everybody was upset that the American EVO 8 didn't come with all the fancy drivetrain electronics that it had in Japan.

This battle is useless though. There are those of us who like one type of car, and those of us who like the opposite. We are going to all have to just agree to disagree on this one. Mitsu seems to be building the X for guys like Peter and me, hopefully they come out with a model that suits you guys as well (RaliArt possibly?).