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Kracka 12-05-2007 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FattyBoomBatty (Post 219724)
I guess I didn't think of this before, but it was probably taken off sometime and the bolts were over tightened. was it you that bought this from some kid/guy in iowa?

Scheides' car was a virgin when he bought it. You're thinking of Matt's car.

Kevin 1G Drummer 12-05-2007 07:20 PM

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E-brake drifts will make those lights come on every time.

scheides 12-05-2007 07:27 PM

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Yup, as far as I know those bolts were never touched.....it is due for a timing belt job in another 14k miles or so, but other than that my car was 100% unmodded when I bought it. Then I corrupted it :D

scheides 12-08-2007 10:33 AM

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Damn it, the bolts are seized in there....off comings the timing cover and belt....and another few days for another part :(

TkrPerformance 12-08-2007 11:07 AM

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shitty

niterydr 12-08-2007 12:40 PM

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Chris, my cousin works at that Sinclair, I saw your car sleeping there last night.

blageo23 12-08-2007 01:25 PM

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That sucks man! You might as well pull the engine and toss in a freshly built 2.3l!

Kracka 12-08-2007 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by niterydr (Post 220065)
Chris, my cousin works at that Sinclair, I saw your car sleeping there last night.

Any thoughts on his mechanical abilities?

niterydr 12-08-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 220081)
Any thoughts on his mechanical abilities?

They have a L1 ase cert mechanic there that should beable to do a timing belt correctly.

My cousin is just the gas station attendant/pump bitch. Fills air, fills oil, stuff like that (he is 18).

scheides 12-12-2007 09:43 AM

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Got the car back last night. Dave at Golden Valley Sinclair worked on my car, I talked to him for quite a bit through the week and for about an hour last night when I picked up the car. I feel very confident in his abilities as a mechanic--it's not a Ferrari or anything (though it may be as fast as one?)! He pulled off the timing cover, pushed in the tensioner with the proper tool, and then yanked the pulley off and replaced it with a brand new one. Reset the timing and the reassembled. Not a full timing belt job but half way there at least. In the end I probably could have done it myself, but if anyone knows what happened at work the day before this happened, you would not want to deal with it either!

Here's some pics of the pulley, if you look closely you will see how the sheared off bolts got tweaked and goobered up the outside edge of a lot of the holes. The guide pin is gone as well, obviously left violently.

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti...4341.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti...4342.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti...4346.sized.jpg

more pics here: http://www.scheides.com/gallery/evotimingpulley

I'll be doing a compression check and tossing it on the dyno here soon, I'm sure everything is dandy, the car runs like a top!

Super Bleeder!! 12-12-2007 10:01 AM

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Now i too have Janine's phone number! BWAHAHAHHAHHAHHAA

JET 12-12-2007 11:49 AM

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Wow, that pulley hung on for quite a while after the balancer bailed. That is quite a bit of damage to the bolt holes. Hopefully the main bearings are ok with all that imbalance that was going on. If not, stroker time!

scheides 12-12-2007 11:59 AM

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Yup, I think everything is fine. I'll do an oil change and compression test for grins, but the car runs awesome. And JET yes you are right!

X Factor 12-12-2007 07:25 PM

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Glad everything is back in order!

scheides 12-28-2007 12:45 PM

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Changed the oil the other night and my oil filter has a few good dings in it:

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti...0052.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti...0053.sized.jpg

I sent some oil off to blackstone just to see what they say about it, but I am sort of considering myself lucky for now, the car drives just dandy....put about 800 miles on it since getting it back together and no problems yet.

polishmafia 12-28-2007 01:15 PM

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damn! you need to stop snow drifting ;)

those are some pretty severe hits it took. good thing it didnt split open.

Matt D. 12-28-2007 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 222204)
Changed the oil the other night and my oil filter has a few good dings in it:

And I'm the pussy who wants to put another undertray on. ;)

tim 12-28-2007 01:22 PM

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Dont these come from the factory with an undertray? I would think even a shitty plastic one would deflect some of this stuff.

Kracka 12-28-2007 01:50 PM

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They do, but a lot of people remove them since they are a real PITA.

scheides 12-28-2007 02:33 PM

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I WANT an undertray, the stock one would not have blocked this. It does not reach back past the front of the block; the oil filter is completely exposed. I'm looking at this undertray that buschur is selling now, it goes back past the block and all the way to the wheel wells.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dertray451.jpg

JET 12-28-2007 02:56 PM

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That's just flat plastic from the looks of it. Why not buy a sheet and make your own? I am sure Grainger has it.

Matt D. 12-28-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 222224)
I WANT an undertray, the stock one would not have blocked this. It does not reach back past the front of the block; the oil filter is completely exposed. I'm looking at this undertray that buschur is selling now, it goes back past the block and all the way to the wheel wells.

The only bad thing about parts like this is they are not legal for those of us who compete in forms of motorsports that have classes governed by closely watched rules. Could I get by with this one or not one at all locally? Probably, but all it takes is one person to whine and I would be thrown out, and given how competitive the classes are it just isn't worth the risk.

Kracka 12-28-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 222227)
That's just flat plastic from the looks of it. Why not buy a sheet and make your own? I am sure Grainger has it.

Fab it up JET! One for the IX too please :)

TkrPerformance 12-28-2007 04:45 PM

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that would be so easy to make. we just need to take a trip to discount steel

JET 12-28-2007 08:03 PM

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I don't think that is metal, look at the zipties holding it on by the pass side wheel. It just looks to be thick plastic.

scheides 01-03-2008 06:20 PM

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Got my results back from blackstone labs. Everything looks dandy, and I have to say that the service from them was awesome!

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoti.../Picture_4.jpg

TkrPerformance 01-03-2008 06:25 PM

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that is good. now we just need to make a lower pan for your car

scheides 01-03-2008 06:46 PM

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Any idea what we could use for an undertray? Know anywhere we could get the stuff locally do make one?

TkrPerformance 01-03-2008 06:52 PM

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discount steel by your house just get some sheet metal should be cheap

Shane@DBPerformance 01-03-2008 06:54 PM

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Maybe some 1/8" or 3/16" thick aluminum sheet from Discount Steel next to Elite?

scheides 01-03-2008 06:55 PM

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How thin could it be so that it would be light enough, but still thick enough to protect everything. Furthermore, how do you cut the stuff so it looks decent? This sounds like a fun project.

TkrPerformance 01-03-2008 07:03 PM

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I can cut the alum or sheet metal at craigs place we would just have to make a cardboard temp plate and make them

scheides 01-03-2008 07:30 PM

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schweet, a new project!

Kevin 1G Drummer 01-03-2008 08:44 PM

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I'd say you'd be best to go with 16 or 18 gauge alumnium. I think 1/8th inch would be a little overkill and add un-necessary weight. Sheet metal would just suck considering it would rust.

scheides 01-03-2008 10:46 PM

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Yea, I'm looking around and seeing a lot of 'almost 1/4 inch' aluminum undertrays out there, so I think shooting for about 3/16" will be the way to go. Nice and thick so it can take a beating, but not too thick it's too heavy...I'll start a project thread as I get rolling with this.

TkrPerformance 01-03-2008 10:53 PM

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just call them and see what it is for a sheet of it we might just have to make a few and one for my evo also

sleepydsm 01-12-2008 07:35 PM

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Do you just feel plastic would not be strong enough? I'd get annoyed by the noise of rocks hitting the metal undertray. Look at all the OEM cars with plastic undertrays. They seem to last. A plastic undertray would be a lot easier to make and lighter, plus not noise from debris!


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