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There is a big difference between talking and doing.

If the guy would have yelled "Nice ass" It would have been a completly different story from actually walking up and slapping her ass or grabbing it. You are talking about two totally different things.
Also because someone brushes your ass in a bus is really different then someone going out of their way to full on grab ass.
Yes we joke about these things but like i said, its a night and day difference when someone acts on it. Then when they get yelled at for doing it, they call their other coward friends to jump a man just trying to stand up for his daughter.
its not like the father started punching the kid and then the friends came in. He fucking just yelled at the kid. And the kid was too much of a pussy to just brush it off and leave with the pride of touching a 12 year old ass. What was the father supposed to do. Tell the kid "Hey, if your gonna grab the ass why not go for the boobs as well, Tell you what, heres my number call me when you wanna fuck her." How long must we stand here and let these fucking gangsta wannabes fuck with us and get away with everything.
Like i said before, the kid got lucky it wasnt me, becuase he would not have had a chance to make a call on a cell phone.
There is no arguement here Mr. 99GSX.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=kpUSElgJcyI

I love black people, but I hate ******s. Not to make light of a fucked up situation but its true, and these guys were a bunch of ******s. Instead of taking my money to feed, clothe and shelter these dipshits - use it to lock them up and throw away the key.

If they'd quit living up to my expectations, I wouldn't be prejudice.

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:) Someone hit the nail on the head.

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id say "living down" instead of up, but i agree with you.

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Again, I'm in no way trying to stand up for these guys. I feel what they did was wrong, but I just thought the idea of child molestation was a little much. The main thing imo is that they almost killed a man.

If we are going to have this discussion we should define a couple words so we are not mislead or confused like I sorta was.

molestation:
1. to bother, interfere with, or annoy.
2. to make indecent sexual advances to.
3. to assault sexually.
assault:
1. a sudden, violent attack; onslaught.
2. Law. an unlawful physical attack upon another; an attempt or offer to do violence to another, with or without batter, as by holding a stone or club in a threatening manner.

Edit: One more time with the clarification for you guys.

I already clarified most of this in a different post, but basically tpunx your right...There is no argument. I'm not arguing anything except what you may determine molestation, and honestly, it doesn't matter what you call it, it's still wrong. And yes there is a definite difference between talking and doing. One is physical harassment, and one is verbal harassment. They are both bad, so some of us (including myself) need to quit being such hypocrites.
(and if you don't want to call me Brian, at least copy my sn right :) )

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"It has been said that sexual assault includes rape, forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration, forced sexual intercourse, inappropriate touching, forced kissing, child molestation and the torture of the victim in a sexual manner."

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an unlawful physical attack upon another -> a sudden, violent attack -> definition of assault: -> to assault sexually. -> definition of molestation:

copied and pasted from your definitions.

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ok. I still don't get what you are trying to say. Do you think this girl was physically attacked? Was touching her ass violent?

My main point was that the word "molestation" seems too violent. I don't think this girl was hurt when he ass was touched/grabbed.

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How can you not see that touching a random girls ass, not to mention her being 12 is wrong!? It falls under sexual assault and you can get arrested for it.

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jesus mary and joseph...

how can you honestly sit there and think that randomly grabbing/groping at 12 year old CHILD's ass isn't a PHYSICAL ATTACK?

im starting to think you see nothing wrong with it. maybe its making you a bit excited. are you style's pedobear disgused in a sideways hat?

im done with this thread. im gonna go talk to wall.

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sexual assault yes. molestation no
are we seriously still arguing about this?! ok u win idc anymore. I'm way too tired

edit: I think sexual harassment fits this situation best. But if you disagree then shucks I guess.

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Semantics. Whatever. It was wrong. It should not get them lynched, shot, murdered, etc... It should have gotten them thumped on the head from the father. The fact that all he did was yell at or insult them was pretty restrained. The assault or possible attempted murder bit, well, that will be handled in court...

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Wow. That's f'd up. Some people have way too much pride in themselves,
"I touched a 12yr old and got yelled at, now Im gonna beat the living crap out of the dad who yelled at me so I'll feel better." If I saw one guy getting stomped on by 8 infront of his family, I wouldnt be able to keep myself from jumping in and start throwing punches and kicks meant to break bones on those assholes.
After hearing about my dad, then in his lower 50's, beaten up by 3 guys for his ring/watch and wallet and then seeing him afterwards, I have no respect/care whatsoever to people who do shit like that. It was the worse pain/anger I've felt in all my life to see my dad suffer.
I really hope those 8 guys get exactly what they deserve, if not in prison then hopefully in the real world.

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molest
Verb
1. to accost or attack someone, esp. a woman or child with the intention of assaulting her or him sexually

I don't believe the words "sexual assault" can even come into play here because the ass grab was not violent and the victim is not an adult.

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By your definition it was both molestation and assult.

Slap = Assault
Slap on the ass = Unwanted Sexual Advance
Assault on the dad by 8 pussies = Assault as well.
Where is your arguement.

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I was trying to define molestation by defining a word in the definition. Holy cow this hurts my head. It was wrong and that's all we need to say!

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Just want to clarify why I made that post on page one. I also don't care what color their skin is, there are stupid people of every color, I just immediately thought of my dad getting beat up by a bunch of little punks trying to make themselves feel tough. I would want to kill them for harming my family. That's all.

Also, maybe killing them isn't right, but more of an eye-for-an-eye thing would be ok.

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Agreed. Maybe we should go grab their asses!!! lol JUST KIDDING


p.s. just kidding
p.p.s jota ka



edit: I'm still just kidding

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I always did have some questions about you. Thanks for clearing that up. ;)

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Brian, I am shocked nobody has pay-banned you...yet. Your views are so far out there its ridiculous. Grown men assaulted and nearly killed a father after he got upset because one of the MEN slapped his 12 year-old daughter's ass. Keep in mind the mother/wife had to watch all of this happen. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting what you have.

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^ashamed of what? If people ban others because they disagree on something then this board would lose half the members in a flippin day. But hey, if you wanna donate a buck or two, please feel free.

Please chris, show me what I posted that is soooooo wrong.

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Thats the point of pay-banning silly! Jeez.

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Well since we disagree (or you at least misunderstand me) you might as well ban me.

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Naa, I've already banned one person today and I'm in a fairly good mood :)

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ok well at least go back and reread my posts. I edited and clarified most of them for you so ppl would quit whining.

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Brian, After reading through your posts, I think your opinions on this whole situation are a little naieve. To say this could have been some kind of a joke, and that makes it "not so bad" is just wrong. If I were to walk up to your little sister and slap her ass or make some obscene comment because a friend told me to do it, I'm suer you would be just as offended as if I had done it of my own free will. And posting a bunch of definitions is absolutly worthless. As you said, everyone will define those terms differently, and you said yourself that you don't see them exactly as they are defined. So why even post them at all? You said you don't see this as molestation because (as I understood your posts), there may not have been any physical pain. That does not mean it was not an unwanted sexual advance, or an inapropriate touch. So to me, that classifies it as sexual harassment, sexual assult, and molestation.

Now as for these punks who beat the father, they deserve to have the fucking book thrown at them and punished to the fullest extent of the law.

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I simply feel that the focus should be on the father getting beaten more than the girl getting touched. This is just my opinion and it doesn't matter (especially since these guys are already free...I think). Obviously, yes touching that girl is completely uncalled for, but I feel like almost killing a man deserves a little more attention.

I guess I see it this way, what if all they did was touch the girl and accept getting yelled at by the father instead of retaliating? Would they still have gone to jail and everything?

What if they didn't touch the girl at all and just beat the man instead? What would be the punishment then?

You guys are just stuck on the fact that you don't think I care that this little girl was harassed. That is not the case!

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Why are you even wondering what the punishement would have been if it were a different scenario??

If the girl was just touched and the father yelled at them for doing it, he could still have them arrested for sexual assault- only the one who touched the girl though.

If they just beat the guy for no reason, they would all go to jail for assault, like they are now.

Either way, the person touching the girl or the people beating the guy down can go to jail.

The focus is on the whole situation, and the girl getting touched resulted in the father getting beat up. How are we putting more focus on the girl, we are not. We are just simply stating that it is what caused the whole issue.

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In order to get to the end you must start from the beginning.
Nothing is taking away from the fact that the man was beaten. But what was the most fucked up about the story is that a 12 year old girl was touched in a sexual manner by a man over 18 right in front of the father, Who any father who is in fact a MAN would say something to this person (regardless of color). Then getting to the fight he got beat by 8 fucking gangsta wannabes with prior convictions including aiding and embedding and running prostitutes, with no respect for the human race, all in front of his daughter and wife.
If you start at the beginning it truely brings to light the whole situation.
if you want to start at the end, yes its fucked up that 8 guys beat on an older man. but the whole situation makes it that much worse because if you picture the whole thing going down there are so many "what ifs" and "i would have done this..." situations that could have happened. But I feel like the father definatly showed he is more of a man then all of those fags put together.
The fact that no one jumped in to help is probeble due to the fact it was Midnight and there probebly wasnt many people around.
Has anyone found out whether this guy is alright? They were saying something about possible bleeding in the brain?

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Brian, you just stated right here what happened (12 yr old girl's ass was slapped). I would call that an indecent sexual advance and would constitute it as "molestation" as you just did.

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So on mnsc someone posted that they found this... WTF

http://ghettobraggingrights.files.wo...fr-brthrs2.jpg

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yup. the white "queer folk" are to blame for this incident too. they are probably responsible for all of the seven men's prior records as well.

a few years ago, two white men were charged with tieing a rope around a black man's neck to the back of their truck, dragging him on the ground. i dont know about you, but i didnt hear ONE WORD about how the black man must have provoked them into doing it.

this only aggrevates me more.

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Umm... WTF?

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How do you disguise a 12 yr old to be an adult?

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http://ghettobraggingrights.files.wordpress.com
this is where the image was hosted, pretty retarded site

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^^VERY credible source.

/sarcasm

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Nobody has a sense of humor? Everybody should chill out. Go eat a cookie or something.

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Sense of humor about this issue? Nope.

And I doubt the guy that got beat up is laughing either.

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wtf sense of humor? You have to be kidding me... What is there to laugh about?

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I'm trying to point out the fact that everybody is being so serious about this that they can't even laugh at that ridiculous picture above. How could anyone take that seriously?