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Halon 08-18-2008 06:18 PM

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Oh snap!!

eagle talon guy 08-18-2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by iceminion (Post 251417)
Project update: got motor installed, it was a total bitch with that stock ABS. I had that engine at such a messed up angle to get it in there! I hope i never have to do that swap again!

Pictures are of my intercooler piping and my supra sidemount. I know that it is really old school, but who cares? it was free!

I really want a FMIC, but im saving up for a house and I just cant budged it in right now.

The supra SMIC is from a mk4 supra right?

Pushit2.0 08-18-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 252624)
Oh snap!!

literally I guess

Kevin 1G Drummer 08-18-2008 09:25 PM

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Huh... It blew up.... Imagine that...

AwdGSX13 08-19-2008 11:16 AM

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thats terrible...

A//// Guy 08-19-2008 12:28 PM

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lolz

tpunx99GSX 08-19-2008 01:47 PM

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Well did it blow up?

b00stcreep21 08-19-2008 03:10 PM

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I'm assuming yes, since he hasn't posted in over a week...

driftn1g 08-19-2008 03:26 PM

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it did as soon as he hit boost, popped.

scheides 08-19-2008 04:01 PM

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Details! Carnage pics! No thrashing/bashing, just post dude!

Halon 08-19-2008 04:33 PM

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Let's see the CARNAGE!!!!

TheFSM 08-25-2008 04:08 PM

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And silence... No update??

AwdGSX13 08-27-2008 07:32 AM

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what happen with this...

joesushi 08-27-2008 10:00 AM

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The car is fine. This hole will not make the block fail and do a damn fine job at clearing crank case pressure. It's a little hole on the engine block. very small compared to all the rest of the holes on the block like the freeze plugs and the balance shaft alignment hole on the back.


http://www.ehow.com/video_2327485_ho...ine-block.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=ItB...esult#PPA12,M1

Matt D. 08-27-2008 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by joesushi (Post 253767)
The car is fine. Why would ANYONE think this would make the block fail, or not do the best damn job at clearing crank case pressure? Its a little hole on the engine block. very small compared to all the rest of the holes on the block like the freeze plugs, balance shaft alignment hole.

Maybe because the engine was designed and engineered with those holes in mind? It's not like the passage going from the head to the crankcase is small. Putting a larger hole and fitting in the valve cover instead of drilling into the block seems like a much more wise idea. But I digress, common sense isn't so common.

b00stcreep21 08-27-2008 10:17 AM

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http://i18.tinypic.com/5y1ay4p.jpg

There's a good one for ya too. Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work I go. Peace bitches :)

john 08-27-2008 10:51 AM

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Even if the motor got messed up, why is everyone giving him shit saying it is a stupid idea? Before this, who knew what was going to happen???? Nobody as nobody had the balls to try it.

He is pretty much conducting an experiment for the DSM community. It is a good idea but who knows how a dsm motor will take it??? I don't see why people on here are giving him shit for his experiment.

There may be one way to do something but that doesn't mean that there isn't a better way.

Matt D. 08-27-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by john (Post 253783)
There may be one way to do something but that doesn't mean that there isn't a better way.

Just because it sounds like a good idea doesn't mean it is.

tpunx99GSX 08-27-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by john (Post 253783)
Even if the motor got messed up, why is everyone giving him shit saying it is a stupid idea? Before this, who knew what was going to happen???? Nobody as nobody had the balls to try it.

He is pretty much conducting an experiment for the DSM community. It is a good idea but who knows how a dsm motor will take it??? I don't see why people on here are giving him shit for his experiment.

There may be one way to do something but that doesn't mean that there isn't a better way.

When you have an Anus do you need to improve on it by drilling a hole in your stomach? Its a great expirement, why not try it?
Drilling into a perfectly good built block is a stupid idea. You are killing a good block, Expirement with a junker block first.

TalonFiero 08-27-2008 03:02 PM

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If your engine truly popped, sorry to hear that.

It can be very discouraging when something like this happens, good luck

:(

john 08-27-2008 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 253801)
When you have an Anus do you need to improve on it by drilling a hole in your stomach? Its a great expirement, why not try it?
Drilling into a perfectly good built block is a stupid idea. You are killing a good block, Expirement with a junker block first.

Regarding your anus comment:He had an issue he was trying to fix. His method has been done on other cars, why not a dsm??? We are talking about an engine block, please leave your anus out of this.

Regarding the "perfectly good" block": He had an issue he was trying to fix. I cannot see how his hole would cause the block to fail. I have pulled several motors in my DSM days and I don't care to do it more times than I have to. By using his "good" block, he could try and save the hassle of doing it again. He talked to a engine builder and he said it was ok to drill there. I am sure he was relying on his experienced opinion when he decided to drill the hole. I would trust an assembler.

sleepydsm 08-27-2008 11:19 PM

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I honestly don't see how a hole where it is in the block would even weaken it.

Andrew7dg 08-28-2008 07:46 AM

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Same here, a small hole to vent wouldn't do that much damage.

I am waiting for a response. If this is his 2.3L I know he just had crank problems and just had it fixed. I think his compression ratio was too high for the timing he was running. His budget to get this fixed was tight already. I don't know if he had to buy a new crank or what.

But after spending all that $$$ and probably owing people just to get the car running and then BOOM all gone. Yeah I would be depressed hating DSM for a while also.

I think there was something else the problem and not the vent system. 2.3L turbo mustangs use that trick
I wonder if he ever changed the spark tables...

b00stcreep21 08-28-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by john (Post 253883)
We are talking about an engine block, please leave your anus out of this.

Hahahahaha, That honestly just made my day. I'm also pretty sure that no one here said that the hole was going to make his engine fail. Pretty sure the general agreement is that it was retarded...

sleepydsm 08-28-2008 10:54 AM

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I don't think this idea is retarded especially if it has been done on other cars before. I know some volvo's use something like this for an emissions system. There is a hole on the side of the block that goes to the crankcase similar to this. I'm not gonna be the one to drill a hole in my block though.

User Name 08-28-2008 02:48 PM

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It's a popularity contest. You're not sittin' at the cool table so don't go trying new stuff and expect positive feedback.

It's cool that you're trying to be innovative, but at the same time, valve cover mod would've been the most practical thing to do.

Can I have some of what you're smoking too?

1QUICK4 08-28-2008 05:02 PM

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I wanna sit at the cool table :(

iceminion 10-01-2008 03:53 PM

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Sorry about not posting, there is a reason behind the maddness:

Yes, the engine is ruined, thats what happens when your engine SWALLOWS A BOLT, LOL!!

I seriously have no idea how it got in there, cylinder 2 is in sad shape.

Looks like the bolt passed through the engine ok, but the lock washer totally f*cked up the turbine blades of the v-Trim.

The vent that I created worked great, but if I was to do it again, I would put it in a different place.

The ideal place for the hole to be drilled is at the end of the balance shaft housing, facing the transmission. I will be drilling a hole there tonight on my forged engine.

P.S. Even though the engine is ruined, we re-used the shortblock (head ruined/valves bent) on my brother's 96GSX, and the car has driven around the neigbhorhood several times with no problems

(well, clutch engagement issues, but no ENGINE problems, probably a ton of blowby LOL)

ill get carnage pics tonight!

joesushi 10-01-2008 06:03 PM

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I'm quite disappointed with ALL of the negative comments being non-constructive. All forums do have pointless members I guess.

In the end: I spent just under $2k and now I have a great condition, NO rust, 6 bolt swapped 2g eclipse gsx, shifts awesome, and leaks NOTHING. Suck it trebek.

Super Bleeder!! 10-01-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by joesushi (Post 258713)
I'm quite disappointed with ALL of the negative comments being non-constructive. All forums do have pointless members I guess.

Its not worth the joules it takes to type. No reasoning on earth can stop the mad scientist!

JET 10-01-2008 09:03 PM

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Yeah, the negative comments were right though, there wasn't a need to do that to the engine. There was a problem with the engine, fix it and you wouldn't need to add more vents. Live and learn.

lucasoil4u 10-18-2008 10:48 PM

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well let me know how it goes. i would have added another port or two to the valve cover. but never i mean ever the block!

iceminion 10-21-2008 11:29 AM

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10 Attachment(s)
Well, since my engine ate a bolt (I think it fell into the exhaust port during the swap, must have fallen IN during cranking, and bounced around once it was on)

Now is time for the goodies, time for a rebuild!

Punishment Racing DSM FMIC kit (I dont like the cast aluminum end tanks)
Cyclone intake manifold
Megan Racing springs
2.0 non-turned .20 over
weiscos/eagles
gonna keep AC/ABS

Pushit2.0 10-21-2008 03:51 PM

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With the cast end tanks it less likely to crack and cause boost leaks.

TsiEagleTalon92 10-26-2008 04:12 PM

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I woulda tested it on a 7-bolt

brando 10-26-2008 04:49 PM

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those front mount's aren't bad

driftn1g 10-28-2008 01:42 AM

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thought u guys were done with dsm mayne

iceminion 11-06-2008 03:24 PM

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Well, I am running into fittment issues with the FMIC kit :(

I will post up pics tonight.

The question is: should I use my 14B turbo? it has zero shaft play, and we took it off a 200k+ DSM, so it HAS to be a factory replacement.

Or I can steal my brothers V-Trim

the car is chipped for the 650's and 2G mas and it has a 190.

it has BC 272 cams

would 272's/14b be fun? I cant remember driving a car with a turbo so small, LOL.

this is my DD, keep that in mind.

User Name 11-06-2008 03:26 PM

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What issues are you running into on the kit?

Super Bleeder!! 11-06-2008 03:36 PM

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i love the 14B. response is fun.


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