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Matt D. 01-25-2010 03:11 PM

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There are people who aren't even Vikings fans saying the calls in question were bullshit.

Regardless, the Vikings lost the game. It at least makes me feel better that it took all of those mistakes by the Vikings and overtime for the Saints to beat us by a whopping 3 points. All I can say is good luck in Miami, because they'll need it. Once they lose then all of the fair weather Saints fans can go back into hiding waiting for the next natural disaster to cleanse the gene pool.

blackrosenova400 01-25-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321403)
There are people who aren't even Vikings fans saying the calls in question were bullshit.

Regardless, the Vikings lost the game. It at least makes me feel better that it took all of those mistakes by the Vikings and overtime for the Saints to beat us by a whopping 3 points. All I can say is good luck in Miami, because they'll need it. Once they lose then all of the fair weather Saints fans can go back into hiding waiting for the next natural disaster to cleanse the gene pool.

The reason why im not a Vikings fan..............

Its just a freaking game!!!!! Not something to wish death upon a group of people. What makes it really stupid is how many of the players are actually from there corrisponding teams state.

goodhart 01-25-2010 04:04 PM

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^^^ Who cares what we say, Louisiana can break off into the Gulf of Mexico for all I care, that whole state sucks except for the French Quarter in New Orleans.

ylimert01 01-25-2010 04:36 PM

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yeah I am still pretty mad..cant wait to see the saints get ripped apart next week. I hope they get annihilated.

TheBlizzard 01-25-2010 05:07 PM

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First time in 8 years I have agreed with Matt D :) They are still talking about how much effect Katrina had on them winning, the inspiration, blah blah blah. Its been five fucking years, clean up your shit town and quit whinning you lazy asses. Fucking Iowa got destroyed by floods and they rebuilt it all in a year.

Saints won, plain and simple, but they did it dirty in my opinion, if they would have won the toss and drove down the field and won, I would have been fine with that, but to have all the reviewed calls go their way is not right. Two blown calls won them the game, without that pass interference call it would have been 4th down.

But big deal, the Vikes got fucked by the refs in the Cowboys game, they didn't turn the ball over and kill them regardless. You take the turnovers away, shit even 3 of them, and it would have been 50-28 Vikes.

TheBlizzard 01-25-2010 05:10 PM

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They need to trade away Taylor and T Jack, try to move up in the draft and get a quarterback, Favre is not going to come back, he got way to beat up in the last few games. He can't endure that for a another season, even if he wants to. I wish they would trade Peterson, but they won't, his fumbling just has to stop. They had a good season none the less, it was fun, those games are just disappointing and emotionally draining.

CVD 01-26-2010 04:36 AM

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I gotta say the Saints D played a dirty game going after Farve. He got hit hard almost every time he threw the ball. I saw many MN opportunities to knock the Saints quarterback on his ass as he released the ball, but our players held back.

That's my only gripe about the game. Win, lose, whatever. That just wasn't necessary though.

Kracka 01-26-2010 10:18 AM

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Karma for what the Vikings did to Romo. What comes around goes around.

goodhart 01-26-2010 11:11 AM

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How in the fuck did the Vikings play dirty against Homo? We sacked him fair and square, there was not one play where he was hit a good 2 seconds after handing the ball off.

slowbubblecar 01-26-2010 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 321514)
How in the fuck did the Vikings play dirty against Homo? We sacked him fair and square, there was not one play where he was hit a good 2 seconds after handing the ball off.

He is probably still mad from his vacation :) The Vikings didn't play dirty.

A//// Guy 01-26-2010 11:40 AM

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Exactly. We played fair with Romo, dont even go there.

Matt D. 01-26-2010 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321498)
Karma for what the Vikings did to Romo. What comes around goes around.

Are you angry about the last minute touchdown to run up the score? Vikings came to play, Cowboys didn't. Tough shit.

Kracka 01-26-2010 12:45 PM

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I'm not disagreeing with you at all Matt, the Cowboys lost fair and square b/c they played like shit; its a game, I was over it long ago. I just think its funny that in typical Minnesota sports fashion after a team loses its just bitching, moaning, complaining, and excuses. Its a game, give it a rest, there are officials in the game for a reason and the Saints were penalized for what they did wrong. The Vikings lost for one reason and one reason only: they couldn't hold onto the ball. Simple as that.

1QUICK4 01-26-2010 12:55 PM

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The ball's on the ground, The balls on the ground
It's hard to win a game when the ball's on the ground

2nd verse same as the 1st

Halon 01-26-2010 01:14 PM

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Nice Brian!

Matt D. 01-26-2010 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321536)
The Vikings lost for one reason and one reason only: they couldn't hold onto the ball. Simple as that.

Yeah, the phantom defensive pass interference call and the overtime replays that just happened to go New Orleans' way had nothing to do with it.

Kracka 01-26-2010 01:31 PM

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Just like any other NFL game, the replays pretty much become judgment calls on the part of the officials. They were questionable, but I'm sure the ref knows a whole lot more about the game and the rules than we do. Those calls could have very easily gone either way, its not like the game was fixed.

Constant_Project21 01-26-2010 01:37 PM

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I don't see how the saints winning by 3 points, with us turning the ball over as much as we did, and the horseshit calls by the refs, is an accomplishment. Watching Brett Favre get slammed almost every down, was rather frustrating. Which is exactly why I think he didn't tuck it down and run at the end of the 4th. Lots of hits on Favre, were terribly late, but there were a lot of ones that weren't. Protecting him better, couldve helped out a lot.

Matt D. 01-26-2010 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321555)
Just like any other NFL game, the replays pretty much become judgment calls on the part of the officials. They were questionable, but I'm sure the ref knows a whole lot more about the game and the rules than we do. Those calls could have very easily gone either way, its not like the game was fixed.

What does knowing anything about the game have to do with what you see with your own eyes? Leber never touched the guy with anything more than incidental contact on a pass that wasn't catchable to begin with, the ball never crossed the 1st down line and touched the ground on the pass. Cut and dry.

Kracka 01-26-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Constant_Project21 (Post 321556)
Protecting him better, couldve helped out a lot.

Exactly.

goodhart 01-26-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321557)
What does knowing anything about the game have to do with what you see with your own eyes? Leber never touched the guy with anything more than incidental contact on a pass that wasn't catchable to begin with, the ball never crossed the 1st down line and touched the ground on the pass. Cut and dry.


This. It's not like we are bitching for no reason.

Kracka 01-26-2010 02:23 PM

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and obviously things can be seen from different perspectives.

Matt D. 01-26-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321578)
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and obviously things can be seen from different perspectives.

Nice cop out from admitting that you're wrong. ;)

A//// Guy 01-26-2010 02:38 PM

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Being so against the vikings, that you side with a clearly wrong refs call, is pretty lame..

Kracka 01-26-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321584)
Nice cop out from admitting that you're wrong. ;)

I'm not admitting I am wrong, but arguing is pointless since everyone is obviously dead-set on their opinions.

Kracka 01-26-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 321588)
Being so against the vikings, that you side with a clearly wrong refs call, is pretty lame..

I've never been a Vikings fan and I side with what I saw. I felt the calls, although definitely tough, were correct. Until the balls are equipped with some sort of sensor going by sight is the best that can be done; 100 people can watch the exact same thing and you'll get 100 different accounts of what "really" happened.

Halon 01-26-2010 04:24 PM

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Penis

goodhart 01-26-2010 04:57 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wfsaPFjcAs&hd=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO1z2B45cTI&hd=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMevQJTOUJc&hd=1

nuff said.

Matt D. 01-26-2010 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 321633)
nuff said.

Fucking right. Irrefutable evidence.

TheBlizzard 01-26-2010 09:46 PM

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Every non-Vikings fan I have talked to admitted the Vikings got fucked as far as the calls went, anybody with eyes and 1/2 a brain could see those two calls won the Saints the game. However the way I see it the Vikings should have never been in that situation, they gave the game to the Saints with all the turnovers they had. Like I said earlier, take those away it would have been 52-28 Vikings. Coulda shoulda woulda, it's over now, they lost. I just don't like when games are decided that way, no matter who the teams are, there were a couple calls during the game that benefited the Vikings that I thought were bullshit as well. Those refs were horrible plain and simple, and the butt fucks that were up in the replay booth were no better.

I hope that the league management will review the game (im sure they already did) and make some comments about it. The rules are simple when it comes to both of those plays, when pass interference is called the pass has to be catch-able, even Shaq O'Neal couldn't have came close to catching that. If the ball touches the ground (unless there is complete control with two hands under the ball) at any point it should be ruled incomplete.

Final thoughts; Childress is an idiot, I don't feel like typing why, it would take too long.

Kracka 01-26-2010 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlizzard (Post 321683)
there were a couple calls during the game that benefited the Vikings that I thought were bullshit as well.

Strange, I don't hear anyone bitching about those in this thread! :D

1QUICK4 01-26-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by theblizzard (Post 321683)
final thoughts; childress is an idiot, i don't feel like typing why, it would take too long.

qfmft

TheBlizzard 01-26-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321689)
Strange, I don't hear anyone bitching about those in this thread! :D

If it would have determined the outcome of the game I would be the first to say the Saints got fucked, im a total realist, but in this case it wasn't that way.

Matt D. 01-26-2010 10:48 PM

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Those calls are no different than the blown call by Phil Cuzzi in the ALDS game between the Twins and Yankees.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrAdDJ2HhTo&hd=1

All the Vikings haters, keep talking like we don't know what we're talking about, we're experienced when it comes to having the officials screw us over.

Kracka 01-26-2010 10:56 PM

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OMG the NFL is out to get you!

1ViciousGSX 01-26-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321707)
OMG the NFL is out to get you!

:lol:

slowbubblecar 01-26-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321689)
Strange, I don't hear anyone bitching about those in this thread! :D

If they were calls that decided the game, I am sure most of the people in this thread would have said the vikings got lucky but they were happy with the outcome. The calls at the end of the game helped decide the outcome which is what people are mad about.

Kracka 01-26-2010 11:26 PM

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Calls during the middle of the game can affect the outcome just like calls at the end of the game.

Kracka 01-26-2010 11:26 PM

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Bad calls generally even themselves out with unbiased officials, thats simple statistics.

slowbubblecar 01-26-2010 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 321715)
Bad calls generally even themselves out with unbiased officials, thats simple statistics.

That is over a period of time or a big enough sample. One game likely wouldn't be enough of a sample to give any sort of confidence.... Looking at calls for/against the home team over multiple games might be something to consider but it is correct to assume it would be equal for every game? If I roll 2 dice, is it guaranteed I will get snake eyes 1/36 of the time?


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