Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

If I see or hear about this ken block character one more fucking time I swear...

Last I checked, the Evo won between the two on top gear, a show we all follow.
The evo ran better overall then even the green lambo they pitted it against.
I feel the evo handles, gives better feedback, and takes to mods quite well.

Done a timing belt, tranny, clutch, or even a plug change on a sti? How about even a fricken intake for the turbo? not the simplest or easiest of cars to wrench on. Parts also seem to be more available for the evo platform.

Want the "cool" noise of the sti? Unplug one of your sparkplug wires. I personally don't get my rocks off to the sti in the slightest, nor over that horrible misfire garbling sound. Reminds me of a chick that just took a load, and is now "playing" before she swallows it..blahh.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

HAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA awesome.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

yea actually - all of those. you'd think you mitsu guys with all your broken cars would be skilled at wrenching :rollinglaugh: (can't talk though, my gvr4 has been "broken" for months now)

they really aren't that hard to work on once you've learned your way around the car.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

This I know Carl, and mitsus if build correctly are REALLY reliable, just don't be a cheap-ass or a newb.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I couldn't agree more. The majority of the time the driver/owner is more to blame than the car itself.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Yeah, I'd never rally an Evo based on my current experience in getting parts.

I've never had an issue fixing or getting parts for the Talon, and it's been plenty reliable for me.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

What broken Evo? We aren't talking about DSMs in this thread.

I don't question that Subarus do well at rally. I'm just not interested in rally. Evos don't do too bad in Time Attack, etc.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Yours maybe? ;)

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I was going to say, don't kid yourself. You just drive a newer, more expensive DSM. Give it 15 years, and you'll see.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Are we going to blame that on a Mitsu design problem? If you insist.

That is also not a Mitsu problem. Cars get old. If you choose to own one then that's how it goes.

Once again, this thread is about STi vs Evo...cars that have not been in the country for that long.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I would. 4G63's don't use any stupid [thin] dual cam caps with bearings in them. Fine for stock I'm sure which seems to Mitsu's intent and concern for many of the common X failure points when modified.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

As posted on MNSubaru, I thought of this video immediately upon seeing this thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjbsjAZ8k&hd=1

I agree with exactly what Jeremy said. For sporty fun and track duty, Evo all the way. If I didn't give a damn about racing and just wanted something fun to drive on a daily basis, I'd take the STI.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

15 years? Try 7. Ask me about the random shit I've had to fix on my car.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

if prepared correctly, either car will be good for rally ..

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Matt I know. Even scheides and the wiring issue..it's all etc.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I guess we'll see how that works out over time. Trevor (and others) have had issues with their heads a lot sooner than I think is reasonable. If Mitsu switched to something with better longevity in return for having to be careful when swapping cams (a rare event for most people) then it might be worth it.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

^this is due to the fact that every manufacturer does what they can to cut costs. It's easier to cast 1 solid piece then 2 seperate programs, pieces, etc. Cheaper it can be made, they will do it. Cars just aren't made like they used to be. Toyota uses this design, but it works quite well. I have yet to see one snap, but at the same time theirs is a bit more beefy.

Back on topic..good video matt.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Yeah we will definitely see how things turn out in the long run. The common issue on the 8/9 heads seem to be leaky valve seals with both stock and aftermarket cams. I'm willing to blame any lifter/rocker issues on aftermarket cam installation error.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Agreed, I also don't buy the Subaru symmetrical AWD system being superior in any way, shape or form.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

MNSubaru sure seems to think it is, but I don't buy it either. Does the STI have a front LSD?

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Does the Evo 8? :(

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Are Toyota's caps billet as well?

If they have to pull the motor to deal with the head on an STi then our issues seem academic. The reason I junked my `96 Impreza is because the head went out...they wanted more than blue book to fix it.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Not until 2005 unless you have the '04 RS.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Whoa Whoa Whoa. Take a deep breath and take a chill pill. I was simply asking for people's opinions here, not trying to create any hate. I think you are putting waaaay more into this than there really needs to be. The reason I titled the MNSubaru thread "What makes an STi better than a Evo?" is because, really, who on a Subaru site would answer the question "What makes an Evo better than an STi?" with any response other than, "it's not." OK? You can go ahead and settle down already.

Jebus, a guy would think this was a mitsustyle political debate with all the tension in here. It's just a friendly debate/discussion, that's all. :D



Not sure who that was directed at...

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

A more appropriate title wouldve been, "what's better, an Evo, or an STI?" Which is still a very vague question. There will be a biased response, based on what site you're on.

Me being a mitsu guy, I love the evo. I've rode in a few, never driven one (if someone wants to change that, lmk ;) ), and have helped work on a couple. I've owned 6 1g's, and worked on idk how many other ones; so the evo platform has always been more appealing, due to the similarities to dsm's. Nothing seems fun about working on a subaru, and I think a lot of us here, like to fix our own stuff (I believe that goes for most forums). Making power never seems to be too much of an issue with evo's, while I honestly don't see 600hp STI's around too much.

Evo>STI IMHO.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Oh, and if sound is what you're after, go get yourself a "I'm a douchebag" card, and buy an SRT4 with an exhaust.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Which is exactly why I changed the titles from site to site. Thank you for your input.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

STi's are better at jumping because of the motor layout.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Yeah, the side to side motion of the pistons keeps the car from rolling to one side or the other in flight. The up-down motion on the Evo pushes the nose down. Everyone knows that.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Are we comparing stock to stock? or modified to modified?

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Length and width ;)

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Girth.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Jumping ability, is never on my list when comparing vehicles. Want to jump stuff, buy a dirt bike.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Or Subaru.

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Post #30. Stay Classy mnsubaru.

I guess that reminded me why I don't go there often. And they always talk about how friendly the Subaru community is...

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I think the guy had a good point about test drives. The local dealers treat their Evos like they are gold plated. The Milwaukee dealer that I bought mine at kept them on the showroom floor. The first time I'd ever been in a running Evo is after I paid for it.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

Mitsu dealerships do need to get over themselves; they aren't selling $100k supercars. Know where I had to go for my first test-drive in an Evo? A Subaru dealership, they had a used one on the lot. I've never had a problem getting the keys to a STI or S2000.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

I would never drive a car where their owners say "Yo my car is in stage 3" So fucking retarded. Emily, please never say the word "stage" around here again. It means nothing.

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

The true question should be, "Whats better, DSM or Bus Ticket?"

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 

That's how Subaru guys talk unfortunately. Their "stages" at least make sense and are consistent though unlike the ones for DSMs and Evos where every shop has a different rating system.