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They should have hired Barney the purple dragon instead of that Kermit wanna be. :lol:

Good message though.

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When all else fails, scream racism and attempt to tie in supremacist groups: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...migration-law/

I'm really getting sick of being labeled as racist. First I voted for a white presidential candidate then I have the audacity to want ILLEGAL immigrants deported.

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Boom, there goes the dynamite. Notice the last name of the lady claiming this crap? It made me laugh.

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So does that mean the Federal Law that the Arizona law mirrors was written by white supremacist groups too? Or by a government that is trying to enforce the fucking laws of this country? And on top of that, the Arizona law protects the individual more than the Federal law does. A Federal agent does not need a reason to ask for proof of citizenship, period.

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Doesn't CA have enough of their own problems they should focus on before worrying about the laws of another state? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/02...s-un-american/

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I'm really starting to think nothing will get better until certain areas of the country get blown off the map. Think if we all push hard enough California will finally slide off into the ocean?

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I'm starting to think we'd all be better of if this country disbanded into smaller countries. Our country is too large to be effectively handled by one central government, and the federal government isn't willing to play nice with the individual state governments so why do we even bother pretending this system works?

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It already is, 50 of them. :)

That's why Obama Inc. is trying to control the situation. They don't want each state invoking it's right to self preservation.

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This country is seriously jacked up..

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This is getting ridiculous!!!

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Someone should have just Napalmed the whole effing crowd, it would make the world a better place.


Yea, lets all teach our kids to idolize fucks like Che Guevara, since he was such a great man :jackoff:

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The only thing the law is going to hurt... is their lawns. :)

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My favorite thing: They're protesting Arizona, but going there to do it meaning they're spending money in Arizona further supporting the state :D

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Being smart is not a requirement of liberals.

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Ok heres my take on this law.
I strongly DISagree with BOTH sides of this arguement.
The kids from LA and their teachers as well as their superintendent all need to calm the fuck down. The Teachers and Super need to be fired. Being a part of any organization that believes the Mexicans need to rise up and take over is BS.
On the other side, the mexicans are the new blacks of the 50s and 60s. and everyone thinks its Normal to be able to talk shit on them for the jobs they take. They get paid slave wages and fear every day they could have la migra come into their house and deport them.
This law will do nothing but cause police officers to harass people based on their color/looks. And a lot of the times they will be harassing Citizens. Not all mexicans are illegal. Believe it or not, this law is racist against mexicans. They didnt pass this to deport canadians.
I think there needs to be immigration reform on a fed level, that is not biased towards keeping the US white. But making it so that its easier for people from other countries that have a clean background to get citizenship, this would make it so that more people are paying taxes and putting in money.
Dont take this the wrong way but...
The US NEEDS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS...
Yes i said it, we NEED them. They play a vital role in society, they take jobs that no one wants to do, and do it at slave wages which keeps the prices low. Whats the alternative? Shipping the jobs to Mexico which takes away from our USA products. Polaris just did this, and will be laying off an entire factory of WI workers to open up a Mexican factory where they can give them sweat shop prices. :(

This is not a cut and dry issue that many people think it is. There are so many issues that create a snowball effect on the economy, corporations, and the people themselves. But its nothing that is going to get solved on a state level. In order to have any effect whatsoever it needs to happen on a FEDERAL Level.

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OK, here's my take on it:

There's not a job an American wouldn't do if it paid fairly for the work. I am way far right of Liberal, way far right. BUT, I do have the same belief as Ted Kennedy that no man should work 40 hrs a week and still live below the poverty line. And that's what's expected with the illegals.

Let's use the "Picking Lettuce" analogy that people love to toss into the discussion. Typical thought goes like this. "If we didn't have those people here picking lettuce for $4 per hour, we would not be able to afford to buy lettuce and those farmers would go out of business. So lets break it down. How many heads of lettuce could one worker pick an hour? Let's be conservative and say 1 per minute. I'm sure they can harvest heads of lettuce much faster than that with sharp blades, but I'll go with 1 per minute. That's 60 heads of lettuce per hour. At $4 an hour that equates to $.066666667 or 7 cents per head of lettuce. Current minimum wage is $7.25 but I'll round up to $8 per hour. So now by using American workers your cost on a head of lettuce just went up 7 cents per head. If they pick 2 heads of lettuce per minute, your cost only went up 4 cents per head of lettuce. If they pick 4 heads of lettuce in a minute, your cost just went up 2 cents per head of lettuce. So where's the problem?

The real reason they are here is to bring the American worker down to that level of income. Look at whats going on. The middle class is going away because big business keeps getting bigger while the income of the American worker keeps getting lower.

Last time I checked, we didn't have millions of Canadians crossing the border illegally.

Tom, you really need to read the law. It has more requirements against profiling than the Federal law. Nobody is going to get tapped on the shoulder and asked for their "papers". If a law enforcement officer is already in a lawful contact with a person, and that person cannot produce proper identification like a driver's license, social security card, etc and that person raises suspicion that they might not be in America legally, that officer has the right to detain them under the grounds that they might be here illegally. This racial profiling crap is out of hand. Mexicans are crossing illegally into the country, so the law of probability is that Mexicans will be here illegally without proper identification that makes them legal. If someone murders somebody and there is a witness, race is always given in a description of the suspect. So if it's reported a white male was a suspect, does that make it racial profiling if a suspicious white man was found in the area?

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I actually agree with you on most of your points. But your forgetting the other items that go in with employing someone legally. Such as taxes, insurance, unemployment etc. Where if they were legal these would need to be paid. A company can employ these illegal immegrants by paying them under the table lower wages and get around paying the other things.
But I really do agree. Illegal Immegrants, which the name itself suggests an illegal activity by being here anyway. Should be fined/deported for being her ILLEGALLY. BUT, on the other side of things, The Mexican-American Citizens that are here Legally will be paying the price. Cops will be able to FIND reasons to pull them over just to check their documents.
Being that its on a state level, it wont have much of an effect (illegals can simply move out of the state) but a better route would be to get full Federal reform of the Immigration process, So that these state rules are just stupid.

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Good, I hope they all leave AZ, heading straight for San Fran Cisco!!

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Louisiana is closer. LOL

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They don't want to come this way. You ever try to find a body in the swamp??? We have a strong alligator population for a reason!! Bet them 'gator would love some mexican food for a change!! :lol:

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Dear President Obama,

I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.

4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U. S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I'll need Income tax credits so although I don't pay Mexican Taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov't pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Thank you so much for your kind help. You're the man!!!

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:lol:

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All I can say is wow and it gives me chills.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjkU_8D4psw&hd=1

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^^ Wow, that's just fucked up...

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What the fuck is that?!?!?!? ^^

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Holy shit!

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If anybody on this forum thinks things are OK and everything will be fine as long as they have their Xbox and big screen LCD, WAKE THE FUCK UP AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND YOU!!!

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Armed Mexicans are illegally going into a United States national park, Arizona doesn't have the manpower to do anything about it, and Obama doesn't want any more fence built. That's what's going on.

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This is not a good thing at all!

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To go along with your video:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16...der-americans/

Awesome that we are no longer allowed in certain areas of our own country because it's become so dangerous yet Mr. Obama still hasn't done shit about it.

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“We need support from the federal government. It’s their job to secure the border and they haven’t done it,” said Babeu. “In fact, President Obama suspended the construction of the fence and it’s just simply outrageous.”
“We need action. It’s shameful that we, as the most powerful nation on Earth, … can’t even secure our own border and protect our own families.”

So, Mr. President, what are you going to do about this?

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Talk.

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Well, considering his deadline for bringing troops home from from Iraq (August) and Afghanistan (July) is drawing near, it will be interesting to see what he does.

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That's easy, he'll do nothing and pretend like he never said it.

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Hughes, you're the closest, why don't you man up and go down there and stop them yourself?

http://theinsanityreport.com/home/wp...rd-300x220.jpg

"Because there's nobody else to do it right now, that's why"

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...66-503544.html

God forbid a state to attempt to take care of a problem when the federal government fails to do so. Americans are dying and we're prohibited from certain areas of our own country already!

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Politicians and lawyers are the biggest enemies of America it seem.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-intensifying/

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They keep saying it's up to the federal government to establish immgration policy. Last time I checked there's a law that establishes the policies, the real problem is that they won't enforce those policies.

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I think it's very odd that the government has decided it has the right to to monitor the electronic devices of citizens (employees) but not round up illegal aliens. One may potentially doing something illegal, the other is actually without a doubt living his life illegally!