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wow, this is a surprise.

My most negative was the other day, the big man almost killed me for not coming to him for a wideband, but he was right I didn't realize how cheap they are new.

I thought widebands were like $350 brand new, he has a bunch around $200.
I'm going to pick up some widebands next week!
Thanks for making me see the light, even if i was a little scared. lol

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I believe we loosened the bell housing, but again, this was over a year ago now. We really should have talked closer to this occurrence if you were so upset about the situation.

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Well, I was quite clearly told that a refund was out of the question, so I never bothered.

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This is seriously the best lesson to learn when dealing with any vendor. If there is a problem, bring it to their attention and work it through until you're at least somewhat satisfied with the solution. It is so often that problems/issues are brought up months/years after the fact and the vendor knew nothing of it before that point. Passive-aggressive posts online solve nothing, face-to-face meetings solve lots.

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There's more than just the tranny that's part of turning the rear wheels.

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WAIT? whats my deal? everyones talkin about getting screwed, and i cant voice my opinion about 8 grand in parts that were fucked up? what about the respect? ZERO from fags supporting modern. everyone else gets to post all this fucking shit, and modern got to 'recover' from some of the unsatisfied customers, but had no efforts and fixing thier mistakes with me, except laugh at me, customer service forwarding emails from me to every worker at modern, LAUGHING. so unprofessional, AFTER they got my money. go ahead and BAN me. i would care less returning to this 'mom and pop' rule ran forum, just like mom and pop credit card shop like modern. HA. give a fuck less,



haha wow keep cleaning my post up. protect ur boys from modern! dont let everyone kno what REAL kind of service there PROVIDING. GO TO DB HA. cant voice my opinions like everyone else cuz i havent sucked admin dick at every wednesday meet. FUCK U GUYS, I DONT GIVE A FUCK, BAN THE FUCK OUTA ME, dont mean i wont be by with both cars so FAST, ill make sure im causing MOOCKERIES at meets, burnouts, I dont care. FUCK THIS SITE

scheides- keep deleting post to hide vender FUCK UPS, and the low traffic this site gets, got picked on in high school, fat with a mohawk, thought he could control some DSM guys on a forums, become a cop? regardless GET FUCKED

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:pc: this should be good.

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^truth.

Rocket 2g,
I'm available all day tomorrow should be 80 and dry for you to whoop on with your fast cars.

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:pc:Ibtl!

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This needs to be ironed out before MAP gets labeled as the new SBR. I'm willing to bet we've all had issues with MAP (I myself even have an outstanding issue with them) but cleaning up such a thread and hiding the dirt isn't going to solve anything.

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thank you.

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True, but there's a PROFESSIONALISM that can go a LONG way when making posts regarding said issues. Talking like a tool out of your dirty asshole only reflects the quality of a man's character, and will be judged as such.

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Awesome, so angry! Good luck Rocket 2g, hard to empathize with your situation with garbage like that.

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rocket2g needs to read this a few times over.

I wasn't privy to his situation, and now that I'm informed I do not believe he will be around much longer.

As for my issue, it was a misunderstanding. Yay for special order parts.

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Sorry for the confusion Matt, again if you ever have an issue just touch base with me and I'll get you squared away!

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Im sure we all have had issues here and there. But from the sounds of it some of you really get pissed off, throw your hands up and say im going to talk shit about them on a forum. There is a way to deal with vendors and a way not to. Rocket2g is a prime example of letting emotions get in the way of a solution.
A lot of times especially with delays in parts getting in or problems with ordering the wrong parts, its not the shops fault. and so yelling is going to solve nothing, Patience and actually WORKING WITH the shop as opposed to AGAINST the shop will do nothing for you.
In my dealings with map over the past couple years, any issue i have had was handled very well by chris and his staff. All i had to do was ask. At times i even felt that I was asking for status too much, but everything got resolved and when chris found out it was going to be another couple months before i would get my pistons, i told him i found a good deal on some used ones, he issued a refund same day and everything went great from there.
Rocket2g, where you are mistaken coming on here and yelling and spouting off threats here and there that we are covering up for map is ridiculous, if MAP was screwing up on a daily or the majority opinion was that they were not a good vendor, they wouldnt BE a vendor. But the majority opinion is that they deal with their problems as long as you are cooperative. If you arent willing to work through your issues then its entirely your fault. And please do show up to the wednesday meets, it would be nice to see a boxing match and create some excitement.

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This is for v8killa. I would of taking a refund. But it would cost me more money to do a dam refund. Since I paid cash. So I would have to come to your shop to get my money back I would have to take time off work. That costs me money. Since I work 8 to 530 and my work is in stillwater. That leaves me no time to run out to you guys. You aren't open on a Saturday. Plus the gas I would have to use to drive out to your shop. Its 45 min one way. You guys say you can meet custmors at the shop on saturdays or sundays if needed. I called for some parts that I needed to purchase. But you said sorry we are open Monday thru Friday. I have tried a couple of times to arrange time on a Saturday to go out there and buy and order parts. But you didn't have the time tohelp me out. We talked on the phone about my oil line fuck up. And you said you help me out. But you failed. I tried 2 times for sure mabe 3. Oh don't have a credit card so I can't just order that shit off your site. Oh and on GOODHARTs tranny deal. If he was missing the dowel pins on the car for the tranny. Everytime he pushes the clutch in it would put a lot of pressure on the bolt closes to the slave clyinder. And it will snap after a little bit of driving. I know from the past. If he drove it to your shop and home with out that bolt snapping he's dowel pins had to be in there. And are sure you gave him the right tranny that was good. It could be easy for you guys to mess that up.

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We could have sent you your refund via check to save you the trip. And yes, I'm sure he received the correct transmission.

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Goodhart,
How did you check that only the front wheels where moving..... Because i was just out in my garage, currently my car has only the front wheels up in the air. and the car is in 1st gear, The front tires will rotate. Granted one wheel is going one direction and the other going the opposite direction. Which is normal for our cars. Im really hoping this wasnt the way you checked that only the front tires were rotating.
Did you put the car in the air on all four jackstands and put the car in gear while running? Did you put it on an AWD Dyno? Did you do a smokey burnout? Were you sure the Tcase wasnt messed up?
A little description of how you came to the conclusion that the tranny was messed would be helpful in this situation.

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Missing dowel pins wont cause the bolts to snap, think about what they are there for. on my gst on a ACT 2900 clutch i didnt have the dowel pins in and it worked fine. When you are missing BOLTs, thats when engagement issues arise. But then you wont be able to actually put it in gear because when you push in the clutch it causes the tranny to seperate from the engine. (know from personal exp). The dowel pins do nothing but allow a point to line up the tranny, and extra strength from the tranny trying to rotate against the block.

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That was my first thought but in the small chance that it was coming from the block I decided against it. Any sealants I could find all say that they use solids in them and are safe for all things with the exception of oil. Even with the small chance that something solid from the little bit of sealant I'd use to seal the leak is too much of a risk for me to be taking with something I will work on whether it's my own motor or one for someone else.

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The tranny had every bolt that held it to the motor and everything else. It was missing a dowel pin. Cause when that was notice that it was missing one. A dowel pin was put in the right place everything was reinstalled and never broke a bolt after that. If the dowel pin are there for just alignment. Why would map say anything about the dowel pins not being in goodharts car. Just a question. How would that cause just the front tires to turn. Just saying.

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How would a dowel pin cause a bolt to break? Thank about it.. A dowel pin has no head to it, therefore it does not keep the motor from separating from the tranny. It only stops it from rotating against the block. You could have had crappy bolts. Overtightened bolts. etc. there are a million reasons for breaking bolts, and believe me, a dowel pin is not one of them.
From what i gathered, they werent blaming the dowel pins for the wheels not rotating. That would just be stupid.
Anyone know where said tranny is now? Does goodhart still have this.

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Basically they're saying that and the shifter was messed up, so other things probably were as well; that's how I took it anyways.

This goes for any of the issues stated in this thread, including the guy that got banned out of the deal: If the situation really was as he said, then I see nothing wrong with posting it here for everyone to see. If he was just being unreasonable, then he was the one in the wrong. It's as simple as that IMO, although we have no way of truly knowing what all went on.

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I haven't dealt with MAP in a while but they've always been good to me.

They did mess up once and had my MAFT drop shipped to my house before I paid for it. (only had deposit)

Luckily for them I'm a pretty honnest guy nowadays

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PM'd you back. Grow some balls and explain what the fuck you're talking about before going off on a rant like that man! Since you asked for it, BANNED! I expect a pretty big fucking explanation and apology after the shit you said if you wanna come back.

People don't realize that it's hard to help people if I don't know what their problem is. Rants like this get you nowhere.

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the mohawk thing was kinda funny, but rocket is an emo

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Wow. You're really going to be missed around here. Tell ta what though, if for some reason Scheides ever does unban you I'll be the first to ban you again no questions asked.

Oh, and by the way, it was me that deleted your first post, not Scheides :D

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Roid rage? The irony is that I've done a cycle and I was nothing like that. haha.

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I've dealt with map a lot. I've only bought parts from them since I do all my own work but never had any real problems. the only problem I've ever had was when I ordered some k-sport coil overs they said i'd get them in a week but it took a little over a month. k-sport had some parts on back order so it was in no way maps fault. i'd do business with them again in the future if I ever get another sports car.

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Well, the transmission prior to this one turned all four wheels, and the one after it did also.

I put the all four corners of the car on jackstands, put the car in 1st and gave it gas. Only the front wheels turned. Like I said, the previous tranny turned all four, and the one after that did also. That is how I know the tranny was the culprit. On a second gear pull it would break loose and torque steer just like a FWD car also, I didn't have nearly enough power at the time to be able to do that with AWD. (250HP, 250 TQ at the time)


Yep, sitting in the garage at my Parent's place in Isanti. After all of this, I kinda want to dig into it this weekend if I get a chance.


We did try to work it out at the time, this isn't the first it's been talked about. This thread came up in a "feedback" kind of format, so I gave my feedback, that is all.

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just swapped a few emails with Mwolf83, and he doesn't know who rocket2g is, no one really seems to. He came out of nowhere into this thread to post up his rant/fail, and now is gone and disappeared like dust in the wind. Oh well, carry on :)

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Really glad to hear you didnt just have the Fronts up. But it would be really interesting to see what the culprit is.
Have you driven the car since taking out the tranny? Also were you sure the Tcase was good? (which hopefully you will soon find out if havent already when you put the TRE trans in)
I know this seems off topic trying to figure out what happened to your tranny. but it would be very interesting to find out the true fault of something like this, instead of saying "This is broke so it MUST be the vendors fault."

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It sucks i wont be at the meet tonight. i would really like to know if the douche actually shows up.

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Have I driven it since this tranny? yes. First thing I did was put it on jackstands and see if all four wheels moved. haha And they did move.

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Thanks for keeping this thread alive guys ;)

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This thread has gone far enough off-topic, I'm going to lock and clean.

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Bump, the OP asked me to change the thumbs down to a thumbs up!

Also, rocket2g, who came out of nowhere with his rant, has disappeared and won't respond to my emails.
rocket2g, if you read this, check your email, man up, and write back ;)