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You guys are crazy, evos are the best.

Calibers are street racing legends!

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+1

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No reason to hardwire an aftermarket fuel pump until that pump, and any larger single pump, can't support your requirements. The 9/12v switch is a nice feature to keep the pump from overrunning the stock FPR at idle/cruise, and also helps keep the pump quieter and cooler, which should ultimately lead to a longer lifespan.

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Yeah yeah, I've been slacking haha. I'll probably get that done tomorrow on my day off. May need your assistance sometime with flashing some tephra mods on the car as I am not too smart on that stuff yet :-D. I did pick up a cable, but still want to do more reading before I attempt anything.

Oh, and LOL @ trogdor being bant.

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I don't see how me giving you shit after you calling an SRT-4 a fag wagon etc is bashing. I've had turbo Mitsubishi's its not nut swinging either. Asked a few questions from the owners here. Not trying to stir the pot or swing on anyone's short and curlies. :wank:

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Good points. I am on a hardwired dw300 running e85 though and have not had idle or cruise issues, but I've only done 4-5 tanks so far and have no idea what my fuel pressure is at. I have heard of people pushing return lines off fittings, but mostly on pump. The car is getting another round of mods shortly though, so I might need to revisit.

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Is anyone currently running a SST with 350+ WHP?

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Tons down here, including my buddy I mentioned hitting 466 so far, with more to come later his week. He has the AMS cooler and SSP600 discs/steels/seals.

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what does it run for a decent cooler??

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Is that the same gentleman who you were in a little HP war with? Bigger guy.. name escapes me...

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Yes sir, Tom/Supraboy1. I'm currently winning the pump gas war (416 vs. 409), but I still need to get an E85 tune.

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Holy fuckin noob tax, you could piece that together for less than 1/2. :Banane55:

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So why don't you get into the Evo X MR SST cooler business? I guarantee you that you won't be able to put together an equivalent kit for half that.

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I didn't go to school for that and I don't care too. If businesses were that simple everyone would have their own business.

But thanks for caring.

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Noob tax or a company that probably tested dozens of coolers and chose this as the best for one reason or another, then has the balls to sell it and stand behind it?

Reminder: sometimes you come across as very arrogant on the internet :)

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Here's the coolers I planned to use to piece a kit together for my Envoy (M7B). Good coolers. Could definately piece together a kit for well under $200 I'd think.

http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/ca...ol-engine.html

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The "noob" tax is RnD cost...it always has been. Some companies piece together something and price it for the market without doing much research but AMS is one of the few that track tests everything.

Are they expensive, hell yes...and yes you could piece one together for a lot less sure. But like Scheides said its for the company that supports the product.

Time is also money, getting your own kit to work properly takes time and something that could potentially take 8-16 hours or more of your time and multiple trips to the hardware store, well suddenly 500 doesn't seem so bad. Some people value their time more than others, while some prefer to do it themselves as they get joy from it.

I personally like AMS because they are the ones that figure everything out then everyone else copies them.

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Great, now add in hose, fittings, hardware, brackets, a fan, fan shroud, and fan wiring, plus the R&D time to fit, install, and test. :)

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I still dont see that adding up to double the cost haha, im going to have to agree with Brown and Bman.

Its obvious that higher platforms charge more for parts though, then say DSM parts. Its like comparing corvette parts to high end Porsche parts. Might be similar products in the end, like exhaust, but you pay more because they can charge more.

Theres nothing really scientific to a tranny cooler.. its just a tiny radiator.

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Atta boy :D


Ps. I'll never tire of the perpetual holy war that goes on here... ever http://forums.pcper.com/images/smilies/extras/bleh2.gif

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That's kind of funny that they make a cooler that wouldn't work with their pipe. I doubt with the mounting location that you would be able to upgrade the pipe in the future? Sounds like going with a 5 speed is a better option. I was hoping it was the other way around.

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I simply shared a link to the cooler I plan to use, is there an issue here?

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My friend's fits with his Cobb LICP.

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Wait I'm going to pay over 500 for this::news:

1 – Cooler w/ Fan Attached
2 – Thin Spacers
2 – Thick Spacers
2 – M8x1.25 30mm Bolts w/ Washers
2 – M6x1 20mm Bolts w/ Washers
2 – M6x1 12mm Bolts w/ Washers
2 – M6 Nuts
2 – Hose Clamps
1 – 36” Piece of Red 16G wire w/Connector
1 – 28” Piece of Wire Loom
1 – Wire Butt Connector
1 – 120 Degree -8 Fitting
1 – 45 Degree -8 Fitting


It looks like a very nice kit, not denying that but I do think you could piece something together that would work just as well for close if not below half the price like Aaron stated.

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I don't either is a better option, you just need to decide which is for you. Do you want a manual or do you want an automatic? If automatic is your answer, is the extra cost of modifying and maintenance worth the convenience?

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Thanks for the reminder.

Also, it seems that some are a bit ready to jump me on anything I say.
My term "noob" was about toward the car, the newer the car the higher the sale price. I just read what peter said, something along the lines of that.

I didn't mean to offend the almighty evo X club, my bad. :flowers:

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We've been having some fun out there trying them out. Just haven't found one that wasn't either roached or beat up. I know they're out there.. Just have to stop finding the ones that were traded in due to issues. 1 SST and 1 5 speed. So far it's been fun, but as I've said a few times they have really been wounded. Did test drive a Ralliart that was in great shape, just lacked some umph.

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Buy murlo's.

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My car lacks "umph" ;)

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If you're willing the roadtrip it the X market down here is huge. Don Herring Mitsu is pretty involved with the local Evo club (NTEC) and he's always searching for good Evos, taking them in on trade, and just buying used ones from members who are selling.

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I still have my eyes on an 8 or 9 but most of the 8's I've seen are still priced in the 13k range. Most of them at the 13-15k range is still, imo, too much for what they're asking for. Some are 2nd or 3rd owners by then and I feel uncomfortable owning an Evo that I know that's been beaten on already. What's your guy's opinion on this? I know Evo 8's are slowly going down but is it really worth what they're worth?

I also have eyes on the Lancer Ralliart Sportbacks as some of them out of state are dipping in the same price range as a good condition Evo 9. As for insurance, I'm getting quotes and it's pretty ridiculous for a Evo 8 (IMO). As much as I'd like to purchase a Evo 8/9, they're just spendy even though the Ralliart is probably the same, haha. :)

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RA insurance is cheap.

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The problem with the 8's is that they rust pretty easy and they are getting old now. I was looking at them for a while and felt like I was getting ripped off. I love how light they are and they make good power, but that price on a 9 year old car is pretty crazy. It is all supply and demand, obviously the demand is very high for a Mitsu to hold 50+% of its original price after 9 years.

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It's the 2003's that have the real bad rust problem.

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I have no problem traveling for a car, the big issue is finding one that is in the shape I'd like it to be for the trip to be worth it. I'd hate to fly out 1000+ miles and have to turn around and fly back empty handed. I found a super nice 2011 STI for 24k with 20k on it. Clean title one owner that I might be taking a closer look at. I don't know if driving or flying is a better idea since the car is 800 miles away.

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Buy my X, Im in Blaine, lot closer than 800 miles :)

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Well, if you find anything in the Dallas area let me know and I'll go check it out for you.

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STi = ringland failures even stock, so just plan on building the motor sooner or later, pretty much.

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I've been reading that, sucks that they are so fun to drive.. but a big time bomb. Sounds like it was like that for a lot of the newer years of the man van's. This one's out in KS, I wonder if it's cheap due to having a new motor. I should run a carfax on it.

Found a X on autotrader that looks like it's done right, but it's got 18k worth of stuff done and owner claims it's never been raced.. hello red flag.