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M1L3S 05-13-2014 01:47 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmolition (Post 444544)
What wb are you attempting to use? If it’s an lc1 you are going to have to download the lm programmer and set your voltage points on your wb and in link. IF you don’t have this set up right there is no point on going any farther.
https://www.ecmtuning.com/wiki/innovatelc1orlm1install
get it here
http://www.ecmtuning.com/images/foru...MConfig315.exe

I had a second to look at your log quick.
Your global dead time needs to go back to 0. Check your car with timing light. Confirm its 5 degrees behind tdc. Is this a 6 bolt swap?

Set your coolant cel light down from 234 to 215. Unclick disable airflow smoothing with sd operation. I assume you have a stock TB? if so unclick the idle switch operation. And log it in your next log to make sure its activating properly.

Do this and get a log of with how you have your wb set up.


I have a aem wwideband.

1g throttlebody

its a 7 bolt with a 1g cas on it.

dsmolition 05-13-2014 03:10 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Ok yeah, do what i told you to do to start with.
The refresh rate of the 5v signal is way slow so it needs constant adjustment on the aem. But you should be able to get it close for what you need.

M1L3S 05-13-2014 03:16 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmolition (Post 444559)
Ok yeah, do what i told you to do to start with.
The refresh rate of the 5v signal is way slow so it needs constant adjustment on the aem. But you should be able to get it close for what you need.
I ended up buying a broken timing light.(got taken by pawn America, I guess theres no returns on tools?)

does anyone know where I can rent one from?

M1L3S 05-13-2014 03:18 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
im going to install my 1600cc injectors. does my global still need to be zeroed out?

bigboostingst 05-13-2014 03:21 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Just drop by Harbor Freight and pick one up. They are very reasonably priced.

dogwhistle 05-13-2014 03:36 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Just read what I sent you last night about them but I'll text you soon and help set them up when I finish my scheduling asap

Halon 05-13-2014 04:00 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
ZOMG. You're already having a disaster of a time, so adding in a set of 1600's (known to pretty much be the worst injectors to tune around) isn't much of a step forward.

dsmolition 05-13-2014 04:32 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Oh brother, we can’t help you if you keep changing things from your logs. :(

M1L3S 05-13-2014 05:07 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
I really don't want to run them but, it seems like I would be making more work for myself to dial in 450cc then change to the 1600cc, wouldn't it just be easier to dial in the injectors and fuel I plan to run so then I wouldn't have to start from scratch all over again?

sorry for making it difficult on everyone.

I just picked up a timing light, installed the 1600cc injectors. will post a log here shortly.

if anyone has some 2150cc or anything better they would like to donate to the "poor dsm society" I would be more then happy to accept them :)

M1L3S 05-13-2014 05:36 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
now no crank issue has arouse :) I love my car

TkrPerformance 05-13-2014 06:12 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Give up. Bring it to Shane. Get it tuned and drive it.

M1L3S 05-13-2014 06:19 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TkrPerformance (Post 444569)
Give up. Bring it to Shane. Get it tuned and drive it.
Never!!!!!!!! :deadhorse: im just going to piss and moan until I get it right!

asshanson 05-13-2014 06:22 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Are you running pump gas or e85? Pump gas will be impossible on the 1600s.

TkrPerformance 05-13-2014 06:24 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
1600 do not run on gas at all. They are a pain to get right on e85. I got mine to idle and run on SD and drove the car to Shane. It still does not like to cold start. Been dealing with the 1600 for many years in the Evo and now the Spyder. I used them since I got them from my brother other wise I would have gotten injectors that tune and work a hell of alot better

M1L3S 05-13-2014 06:33 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuni...#post153428316

1600cc idle

SlowWhite 05-13-2014 06:39 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Sorry to jack the thread once again but since we are on injectors now. The car I'm considering runs Bosch2000cc injector. With a walboro 450 e85 pump.

If I chose to run 93oct instead of driving across town to get gas would it be best to swap out injectors or pump?

Or is there a way to run 8 injectors? (Thought I read that Steve is using two sets on his 1g?)

Currently had an evo111 manifold with 1g n/a tb. But come taxes next year its magnus v3 and one of there tb for it

asshanson 05-13-2014 06:49 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
8 injectors would require a special intake manifold with holes in the runners for them. Plus you would need to drive them, not sure if dsmlink v3 does that, or just AEM.

Can those Bosch injectors idle on pump gas? If so, you would just need to switch the tune between pump and e85, no need to switch injectors and definitely not the pump. Otherwise if they don't idle on 93, then you'd have to switch injectors and the tune. Still not the fuel pump though.

SlowWhite 05-13-2014 06:57 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
The car I'm looking at was built by Shane Phillips of asap performance. I have been considering having it dyno tuned for 93 while I'm down there for a cost of $300. But its the time frame I'm somewhat worried about. I will probably ask the owner of he can do it before I get down there and just pay him the money.

The owner just said all I would need to do is get it dyno tuned.

turbotalon1g 05-13-2014 08:07 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
What car is it of theirs?
They have been building some sick street cars.

Halon 05-13-2014 10:45 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by M1L3S (Post 444567)
I really don't want to run them but, it seems like I would be making more work for myself to dial in 450cc then change to the 1600cc, wouldn't it just be easier to dial in the injectors and fuel I plan to run so then I wouldn't have to start from scratch all over again?

sorry for making it difficult on everyone.

I just picked up a timing light, installed the 1600cc injectors. will post a log here shortly.

if anyone has some 2150cc or anything better they would like to donate to the "poor dsm society" I would be more then happy to accept them :)
Why, because you don't know what you are doing and it will be easier to learn on decent injectors versus 1600's. I can almost promise you that you will never get those 1600's perfect as far as idle goes. You will get them decent and then the next morning it will run like shit. They suck for idle/low throttle. The only way I ever got them to idle halfway decent was making sure all stock idle control methods were in place (fiav, Isc) hours upon hours of tincuring.

dsmghost 05-13-2014 10:53 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
It would be a terrible idea to bring your car in its current condition to a dyno with an hourly rate. Unless you have pocket loads of cash and no common sense. Some people need a dyno tuner to get there car running right, but there are a few people who do actually know what there are doing right here willing to help. All you need to do is start at step one and go from there. You can't skip the beginning steps.

SlowWhite 05-13-2014 11:27 PM
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Ill post a thread once I get it. If he'll pick me up at wpb.international its looking like ill be flying in wed or Thursday after memorial day and then drive it home the 10hrs. (Hope you all with say a prayer for me) 90% of thr time I couldn't get my old eclipse to Wisconsin with out over heating.

At least this car still has a/c.

dsmghost 05-13-2014 11:47 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowWhite (Post 444585)
Ill post a thread once I get it. If he'll pick me up at wpb.international its looking like ill be flying in wed or Thursday after memorial day and then drive it home the 10hrs. (Hope you all with say a prayer for me) 90% of thr time I couldn't get my old eclipse to Wisconsin with out over heating.

At least this car still has a/c.
Dude post your own thread already wtf

SlowWhite 05-13-2014 11:55 PM
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I havent been replying with quotes but saw someone asked about the car which is why I made the last post.

Goat Blower 05-14-2014 12:16 AM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
I put together a 8 injector setup but never used it. No need for it these days with 2200cc injectors, I had 1600's and 720's.

Goat Blower 05-14-2014 12:18 AM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
And as Halon mentioned, I could never get my 1600's to idle for shit either, I'd never run those again.

dsmolition 05-14-2014 09:00 AM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmghost (Post 444586)
Dude post your own thread already wtf
hey now he said sorry!:threadjacked:
Quote:
Originally Posted by M1L3S (Post 444567)
I really don't want to run them but, it seems like I would be making more work for myself to dial in 450cc then change to the 1600cc, wouldn't it just be easier to dial in the injectors and fuel I plan to run so then I wouldn't have to start from scratch all over again?

sorry for making it difficult on everyone.

I just picked up a timing light, installed the 1600cc injectors. will post a log here shortly.

if anyone has some 2150cc or anything better they would like to donate to the "poor dsm society" I would be more then happy to accept them :)
No point to go through all the mess with those injectors to make it run like shit. When stock 450s will handle your stock turbine. There is not much to dial in then.. The stock link fuel maps are going to be your best bet right now. You can start with those and adjust from there ONCE you get that thing to log correctly.

M1L3S 05-15-2014 10:12 PM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dsmolition (Post 444602)
hey now he said sorry!:threadjacked:


No point to go through all the mess with those injectors to make it run like shit. When stock 450s will handle your stock turbine. There is not much to dial in then.. The stock link fuel maps are going to be your best bet right now. You can start with those and adjust from there ONCE you get that thing to log correctly.
I have it running on e85 and the 1600cc. I need some help still, but it seems to be doing a lot better.

please tell me what you guys think? I don't know how to post logs onto here, so ill post the link to the log I posted on tuners.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newb...#post153429016

mitsustyle is amazing. really appreciate all the help and people who have already stopped by to lend a hand.

dsmolition 05-16-2014 09:25 AM
Re: dsm link v3 tuning help :/
 
Your ecmlink version is outdated. You need to upgrade it
download v3.27.92 HERE
Then update that to "Early access - v3.28.121" right below.
Then upgrade your filmware. HERE


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