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I will have my rods and new set of pistons late next week. I have ordered stuff from parts dinosaur and am talking with MAP and Dukes for the rest of the parts.

Some good changes this year is new timing belt stuff, I am building a new head with 1mm over valves new springs and crazy light titanium retainers plus shims to tighten up the springs as much as possible.

The block with just get the glaze broken and new rings/bearings installed.

I am going to try a ICS Titan copper head gasket: http://www.maperformance.com/sce-ics...ad-gasket.html

And new MAP ultimate duty L19 studs.

Also I am getting a set of Hoosier QTP tires: http://m.summitracing.com/parts/HOO-17415

I will make a few minor changes to the entire setup. The goal is a little less rattles, fix some drivability, and get the car aligned, and have the ems control boost and have VSS input with an electronic speed sensor from a 2g.

I will post pics and updates as needed.

~John

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Why the copper HG vs a permatorque? Were you running a permatorque before and just want to try something different?

Car looks good and fun as hell!

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I have had 2 permafails in my car. The one that was in it for the first part of the season started to leak between the layers on the dyno, but it only pushed coolant at 42+psi so I left it alone as long as I could then after the record run at BIR it started to leak at 40psi. So I installed a new gasket and drove to the map dyno day and made 830 at 40psi and was already leaking after 14 miles.

And I want to turn the boost up this year so I need a gasket that should never leak.

The main issue is the permaleak has no ring or anything between the layers to seal cylinder pressure.

I like the older cometec better, but that's just me.

And when this 4202 lets the ghost out at 50+psi I will get a Borg Warner 4202 or the BW billet 80mm to replace it.

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I noticed that about the permatorque when putting it in Vassils car, but everyone and their brother likes them, havent heard many complain but definitely understand. I am curious about how this copper head gasket holds up.

Did you have L19's or A1's before with the permatorque before?

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The block was decked in a Sunnen v30, the head was decked, the block was honed with a torque plate and the A-1 technology L19 head studs torqued to 105ft/lbs with a ton of moly lube.

I copper sprayed the permatorque and there were no signs of block to gasket or head to gasket leaks, it was all between the layers.

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Wow, that sucks! Hopefully that copper gasket holds up a little better. They have been around forever but I have heard more horror stories vs good, therefor I was surprised you are going that route but makes sense now. Although most of the issues I've heard seemed more like user error... Good luck and hope it works!

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New parts + boost by gear (launch) = :)

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Good luck man.

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I still use permatorque on my 1G, knock on wood, no issues. Same A1 studs at 105 ft/lbs. I have been putting a fresh gasket in every time the head comes off. However I would take the titan route if it started leaking. I'm curious to see how it goes with the titan.

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Good luck man, excited to see how she performs this year!

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Boost by MPH is king!!!!!!!!!!

Looks good John hope you get all your parts on time.

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I mentioned something about your permatorque failures in a diffrent thread. The guy was having the same issues as you. So I mentioned you were gonna try the titan copper one and he said

Just thought Id let ya know what someone elses opinion was with the same issues as yours.

Good luck this year

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O-ringing and the Copper would be how I'd use a copper. Just a thought.

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The ICS titan gasket has an inbeded o ring around the cylinders. If it does not work I am back to were I was last year. Then I turn the power down.

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I tryed an ICS titan and everything held except the seal in one of the coolant passages where it slowly dripped coolant out of the head surface. That happened regardless if it was just sitting idling, or under full boost so it was not related to leaking from combustion area. Combustion sealed great but the RTV type seals didnt really look the best even when it was new out of the package that are around the coolant and oil passages.

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Copper spray on a copper gasket, that's crazy talk.

If it looks like an issue it will get sprayed, I ant scared.

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Mines o-ringed with ss wire, and a permatorque gasket, never had a issue since I did that.

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Thank you CP/Carrillo for looking over the old parts, and cutting up the new set of pistons for the year.

The new pistons have a little different out shape, to help piston stability, and they now have 6 gas ports for the top ring, and they added polishing to the final steps of machine work.

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So a quick run down of the new parts for 2012:

MAP stage 5 head with SI 1mm over nitrite coated SS intake and exhaust valves, Crower springs and titanium retainers with new Ferrea locks, the retainers are 1/4 of the weight of the old chrome moly ones we had in the head the last few years.

We ended up with the Titan SCE copper gasket (not the ICS one, thank goodness), and the block is at MAP to get o ring groves cut into the deck surface. the head gasket will be coated with copper spray and torqued down with the new MAP ultimate duty L19 head studs. We also picked up all new timing belt components, and a Gates blue racing belt and will use the same Crower 288/288 cams and Crower cam gears as the last few years.

We also have a new set of Hoosier QTP's for the track this year, they are 26" x 9.5" x 15". From what I have read they are the C07 Hoosier compound, so a little harder then the full Hoosier slick option which uses the D06 compound and sized in at 26 x 8 x 15, which is section width vs tread width, both come in at a section width in the 9.5" range and tread width of 8".

I have read the QTP tires will be more consistent and last a little longer, and with no burn out put the car in the 1.5 60' range, and any one that knows silly 1/4 mile math.... I am just saying.

With the bigger tire diameter we gain 10% in each gear, which is good because on the record run last year the car crossed the line at BIR at almost 9800 rpm in 4th gear, so the new tires put the car at a top speed in 4th at about 175 mph (est for 2012), vs 162 mph (est for 2011).

So when we up the boost to 46-48psi and spray a 50-75 shot of nitrous, if the tranny holds at all, which the AEM will control and limit boost in 1st gear, we might see some series shit.

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Here are some end of the year pics (2011) of the car driving down to the MAP fall dyno day, and driving up to Elk River for a car show at Broadway Bar and Grill. And prof that it did run and drive around, I estimate we ended up putting about 1500 miles on the car last year.

So believe it or not we do have more plans for the car in the works, this is not the end all goal, and part of me wishes it was the end all goal....

Where could one go from here.... well I will say a full round tube chassis, solid rear end, AWD, and retaining the Saloon theme are not out of my thoughts.

I am thinking late this year/next year the car will be 25.5 certified and have all the goods to push that chassis certification.

~John

PS for the ones that may not know, a 25.5 chassis in NHRA is good for a 7.50 ET@180mph.

And a quick thanks to all my sponsors, and there are a few new ones this year: Modern Automotive Performance, Josh with CTS tuning, Ryan, Kyle, CP Pistons, Carrillo rods, Karl Ramm, KRAMM-LOX, Paul, Chuck at HTM, Jacks Trans.

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You're an animal! It will be fun to see this in action for the MAP event. Nice slicks, should free up some unsprung weight too. Good luck with the assembly/build.

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Good luck this year.

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good luck man. hopefully you kill the gvr4 record :D

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Awesome update John. Good luck this year!

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Very very excited to get this on the rollers and the track!

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Awesome!!

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Moon taxi indeed! Nice work!!

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Official 2012 mods list.
MoonTaxi Mod’s list
FIC 2150cc injectors (peak and hold driver)
No resistor pack
MSD box DIS 2
MSD twin post coils
AEM 5 bar map sensor
MAC boost control solenoid
GM AIT
GT4202 1.01 a/r divided housing T4
MAP stage 5 head (max awesome edition)
Crower 288 cams
Beehive GSC valve springs
90mm Q45 throttle body
JDM J Fab Customs intake manifold with epic fucking diamond plate accents, seriously epic
Exhaust manifold for dividing by zero and solving world hunger, at the same time
Block is solid yo, literally ¾ solid
9.0 CP pistons, heavy duty 22mm wrist pins, custom
Carrillo Rods, custom
Custom Quarter master twin disc
Stage infinity/Jack’s transmission that hates itself with welded center diff
Aeromotive Eliminator fuel pump, extra loud edition with 10 gallon fuel cell
E-85/E-98 tunes for facetaking
Bitchen cage ready for 7’s in a white moon taxi, 2 piece chassis conversion
JDM J driver <- seriously a mod
Car still has a/c with the windows down @ 55+mph, has a custom dash with gauges installed, and race seats with harnesses.

...and a few other items we won't mention here.

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lol, awesome mod list.

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So do you have a sfi3.2a/15 flame suit? I'm kind of upset that they change the flame suit rule in 2012 for people that run ethanol and faster than 9.99. I used my 3.2/5 setup for 2 years and it's like new, now unusable. The cost of the suit is much greater too, I have a Simpson setup now and to upgrade to SFI-15 its $1600.00. I know there are other cost effective alternatives, like RJS for around 700, but there’s a lack of availability in time for MAP's PG. I'm afraid my fate will be determined in BIR's tech inspection...

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What a load of crap, thank god for being slow is good for once. I meant me, in case anyone was wondering.

I talked to john a few days ago, and it sounded like he has a lot of work ahead of him to make PG, but well he was determined.

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Yes running e98 and quicker then 9.99 we need to run the same fire suit as top fuel.

I have a line on a brand new suit and a parachute setup from an old top alcohol team.

I will write up another update this weekend, but a quick snap shot.

I drove the car early last week, we broke in the motor and changed the oil to red line 40wt race oil, and fixed a few minor things.

The tranny would not shift into 3/4 like it should and the wide band broke over the winter.

So off to MAP for a dyno session to see how the new parts are working.

First pull it made more boost then we thought it would, so we upped the boost cut and 2nd run made 613hp at 28psi, we added 1° of timing and made 620hp.

Then we tried upping the boost and ran into major traction issues.

The driver rear tire keeper spinning, registered 750@40psi, but I figure with no tire spin it will be about 850 @ 40-41psi. Which is the goal for PG. The AEM with control boost and have vss input for some traction control for 1st into 2nd gear.

Also with the QTP tires I hope if the tranny shifts right into 3/4 and makes the 850 it can I think this setup will run a high 8.

And a quick thanks to all my sponsors, and there are a few new ones this year: Modern Automotive Performance, Josh with CTS tuning, Ryan, Kyle, CP Pistons, Carrillo rods, Karl Ramm, KRAMM-LOX, Paul, Chuck at HTM, Jacks Trans.

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Special thanks again for the crew at Modern Automotive Performance for staying late and the excellent use of facilities.

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Well PG did not go to plan, shifting issues left us with 60' testing, which only making 8 full passes on this new setup over 2 years, was not a bad idea to get this part working right.

So the new tires are the best thing ever, the car makes no low end torque, so having a little spin threw 1st gear is the goal.

The first test pass was a 1.59, great, a lot faster then the 1.75 for the record run last year.

Then some adjustments and ran a 1.52, getting to the magic 1.500 I was looking for.

Then everyone was like dam that thing spins a lot, so we tried lowering boost at the line and tire pressure, we found at 5psi of boost and 13psi tire pressure the car falls on it face, drops to 2,000rpm and runs like a 1.63 60'.

The car is back up and running, I want to get a few more tuning sessions in and get back to the track with full shifting capability, then get the 60' back to the 1.500 it can be, with 12-15psi of boost at the line and 12psi tire pressure.

And a quick thanks to all my sponsors, and there are a few new ones this year: Modern Automotive Performance, Josh with CTS tuning, Ryan, Kyle, CP Pistons, Carrillo rods, Karl Ramm, KRAMM-LOX, Paul, Chuck at HTM, Jacks Trans.

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Still plenty of season left my man, let us ease into the awesomeness.

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amazing 60 foot man. *thumbs up* :D

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I did drive the car to work and home, I have the tranny out again... I have all the parts needed on the way to make this thing shift at high RPM for another few runs at the track to get my goal. Also i wanted to hit the dyno 1 more time to see what 48psi does, then nitrous if all is good.

~John

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Post up before you hit the dyno, I might stop by to see it in action!

Good luck man, I wanna see this beast flying down the track once more.

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Time for the small update.

The new 3/4 syncro set showed up and they are installed. The tranny shifts great at 10,000rpm and we are working out the tune with the 26" tall tire and shifting. The RPM drop per gear is a lot more then the last few years, but the traction and MPH per gear is well worth it.

My new math says the top speed in each gear at 9500rpm is this: 1st 54mph 2nd 80mph 3rd 126mph 4th 172mph

I have done a few pulls now and am back in sync with the car getting the 3/4 shifts clean.

We are going to the muscle car shoot out at BIR this coming weekend to see what this car does with a 1.5 60', clean shifts, and 41psi.

Also when we are at the track we will test and setup the NLTS, this will help with the new tires and traction, boost drops between gears, in the car its hard to tell, but the logs do not lie.

We are heading up to the All Mitsubishi Cook Out tomorrow then the track is next weekend.

~John

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That's great, I can't wait to see it in action again up at BIR!

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Good luck this coming weekend.

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"look dad it's as bigs as my head"!

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Go break some records!