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Halon 03-25-2014 07:12 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Big fat Jim?

Speedfreak 03-25-2014 08:23 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Yup. Figured I could start with him, then get a couple second opinions.

Halon 03-25-2014 08:51 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Yeah he's a smart dude.

s1ngletracker 03-26-2014 12:27 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
I welcome all opinions! I'm also an engineer (however not a materials expert) and as I'm well acquainted with, you can manufacture anything, use just about any material, attain any tolerance, etc... but everything has a cost.

7075 will nearly triple the material costs, and more exotic alloys will be even more. I'd make and sell them for $120 for a set out of 7075 with current design.
If anyone has connections to get cheap 7075, that would be awesome!

I'm confident I can work something out with 6061-T6 but I need to run a few more simulations.

The struggle at the moment is that i'm not sure what type of temps this part will receive. I am designing this to sustain track/racing conditions. I'm sure it would be completely fine on the street with like a 4x safety factor. I'm currently running a simulation that peaks at about 400F. That cuts the yield strength by about 75%. I have measured race car temps that peak to 1200+F at the caliper, so this adapter could possibly be experiencing a lot of heat.

I think I might have a few made and get some running temp measurements at DCTC before committing to a big production run. I can make some extras for people, with the understanding that it is not yet proven.

Halon 03-26-2014 12:43 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
This guy Jim, he's pretty hard core. He's not just you're standard mechanical engineer, his specific area of expertise is material and welding, that's all he does. It's funny how real professional welding makes anything any of us (or even shops) do look like childs play. The rest of us can sit here and oogle over the prettiest looking manifold made by say Full Race. Where he'll take a look at it, their material choices, and their process and completely rip it apart like it's garbage.

Long story short, if Momin gets input from him I'd listen :)

s1ngletracker 03-26-2014 12:54 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Ain't seen nothing till you've seen an E-Beam or projection weld! :D We do welds that hold up to about 10,000 psi here.

I look forward to hearing his input!

Halon 03-26-2014 02:02 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
How about I-STIR? :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCGQFJ5qcYM&hd=1

s1ngletracker 03-26-2014 02:09 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Yes! another cool form of welding, I have a friend who works at PaR in that department (who bought the friction stir welding technology from MTS)

Halon 03-26-2014 02:10 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Who is it? That's where I work, well used to work until Westinghouse bought out the nuclear side of PaR and they renamed us PaR Nuclear...

Speedfreak 03-26-2014 07:00 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Short version of what he said (he said a lot), was no aluminum. Basically through the heat cycles and temp range, it'll loose it's properties and is at risk of failure.

He mentioned aluminum calipers can work due to them being cast(explained the structure of the metal etc.. went beyond what I needed to know :P) and specific alloys being used/chosen combined with cooling techniques employed in car design etc.

Anyways, his first choice was Inconel.. But I said our budgets won't allow it :P

He then said, just choose a common SS and it'll work.


Like Halon mentioned, welding is a whole new world after being directly involved in it for about a year. Not machine welding, human welding. There is a ridiculous other world of AWS/ASME codes/practices etc that need to be strictly followed in the Nuclear world.

s1ngletracker 03-26-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Very interesting, thanks!

Halon 03-26-2014 10:45 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
My RTM ones were just carbon steel, came uncharted. I had Primo powder coat them.

Shane@DBPerformance 03-27-2014 02:10 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Corrugated lawn sign

s1ngletracker 03-27-2014 03:02 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
**coroplast. I'm gonna use 10 layers!

s1ngletracker 03-31-2014 02:05 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Sorry.. this is getting delayed till after the race at autobahn this weekend and my newest (non-mitsu) car acquisition :D

s1ngletracker 05-05-2014 05:03 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
so I should have a couple sets of prototypes finished this week.

in lieu of some stupid issues with my DSM - is anyone going to be going to DCTC with their 1g anytime soon, and be interested in a set and letting me measure working temps?

Goat Blower 05-05-2014 06:24 PM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Not I. But I'd be interested in helping you develop some for the VR4/Cobra rotor combo. :D

s1ngletracker 06-04-2014 12:16 AM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Finally... first prototypes.

I might as well just make these stupid things in steel... but some serious bling factor here.

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...63009076_n.jpg

goodhart 06-04-2014 01:26 AM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
Nice. What material are those?

s1ngletracker 06-04-2014 09:53 AM

Re: Anyone interested in Cobra adapter brackets
 
ally-yoo-minium


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