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Swifty1638 03-31-2010 01:45 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
If I see or hear about this ken block character one more fucking time I swear...

Last I checked, the Evo won between the two on top gear, a show we all follow.
The evo ran better overall then even the green lambo they pitted it against.
I feel the evo handles, gives better feedback, and takes to mods quite well.

Done a timing belt, tranny, clutch, or even a plug change on a sti? How about even a fricken intake for the turbo? not the simplest or easiest of cars to wrench on. Parts also seem to be more available for the evo platform.

Want the "cool" noise of the sti? Unplug one of your sparkplug wires. I personally don't get my rocks off to the sti in the slightest, nor over that horrible misfire garbling sound. Reminds me of a chick that just took a load, and is now "playing" before she swallows it..blahh.

Kracka 03-31-2010 01:49 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
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Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331901)
Reminds me of a chick that just took a load, and is now "playing" before she swallows it

HAHAHAHAAHAAAHAHAHAHA awesome.

carlvr4 03-31-2010 01:50 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331901)

Done a timing belt, tranny, clutch, or even a plug change on a sti? How about even a fricken intake for the turbo? not the simplest or easiest of cars to wrench on. Parts also seem to be more available for the evo platform.

yea actually - all of those. you'd think you mitsu guys with all your broken cars would be skilled at wrenching :rollinglaugh: (can't talk though, my gvr4 has been "broken" for months now)

they really aren't that hard to work on once you've learned your way around the car.

Swifty1638 03-31-2010 01:51 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
This I know Carl, and mitsus if build correctly are REALLY reliable, just don't be a cheap-ass or a newb.

Kracka 03-31-2010 01:58 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331904)
This I know Carl, and mitsus if build correctly are REALLY reliable, just don't be a cheap-ass or a newb.

I couldn't agree more. The majority of the time the driver/owner is more to blame than the car itself.

cmspaz 03-31-2010 02:11 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Yeah, I'd never rally an Evo based on my current experience in getting parts.

I've never had an issue fixing or getting parts for the Talon, and it's been plenty reliable for me.

mlomker 03-31-2010 02:22 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carlvr4 (Post 331903)
you'd think you mitsu guys with all your broken cars would be skilled at wrenching.

What broken Evo? We aren't talking about DSMs in this thread.

I don't question that Subarus do well at rally. I'm just not interested in rally. Evos don't do too bad in Time Attack, etc.

Kracka 03-31-2010 02:23 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331911)
What broken Evo?

Yours maybe? ;)

Swifty1638 03-31-2010 02:25 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
I was going to say, don't kid yourself. You just drive a newer, more expensive DSM. Give it 15 years, and you'll see.

mlomker 03-31-2010 02:30 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 331912)
Yours maybe?

Are we going to blame that on a Mitsu design problem? If you insist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331913)
Give it 15 years, and you'll see.

That is also not a Mitsu problem. Cars get old. If you choose to own one then that's how it goes.

Once again, this thread is about STi vs Evo...cars that have not been in the country for that long.

Kracka 03-31-2010 02:33 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 331915)
Are we going to blame that on a Mitsu design problem? If you insist.

I would. 4G63's don't use any stupid [thin] dual cam caps with bearings in them. Fine for stock I'm sure which seems to Mitsu's intent and concern for many of the common X failure points when modified.

Matt D. 03-31-2010 02:34 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
As posted on MNSubaru, I thought of this video immediately upon seeing this thread.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjbsjAZ8k&hd=1

I agree with exactly what Jeremy said. For sporty fun and track duty, Evo all the way. If I didn't give a damn about racing and just wanted something fun to drive on a daily basis, I'd take the STI.

Matt D. 03-31-2010 02:35 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Swifty1638 (Post 331913)
I was going to say, don't kid yourself. You just drive a newer, more expensive DSM. Give it 15 years, and you'll see.

15 years? Try 7. Ask me about the random shit I've had to fix on my car.

s1ngletracker 03-31-2010 02:37 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
if prepared correctly, either car will be good for rally ..

Swifty1638 03-31-2010 02:40 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Matt I know. Even scheides and the wiring issue..it's all etc.

mlomker 03-31-2010 02:43 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 331917)
I would. 4G63's don't use any stupid [thin] dual cam caps with bearings in them.

I guess we'll see how that works out over time. Trevor (and others) have had issues with their heads a lot sooner than I think is reasonable. If Mitsu switched to something with better longevity in return for having to be careful when swapping cams (a rare event for most people) then it might be worth it.

Swifty1638 03-31-2010 02:45 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
^this is due to the fact that every manufacturer does what they can to cut costs. It's easier to cast 1 solid piece then 2 seperate programs, pieces, etc. Cheaper it can be made, they will do it. Cars just aren't made like they used to be. Toyota uses this design, but it works quite well. I have yet to see one snap, but at the same time theirs is a bit more beefy.

Back on topic..good video matt.

Kracka 03-31-2010 02:46 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Yeah we will definitely see how things turn out in the long run. The common issue on the 8/9 heads seem to be leaky valve seals with both stock and aftermarket cams. I'm willing to blame any lifter/rocker issues on aftermarket cam installation error.

Matt D. 03-31-2010 03:02 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 331920)
if prepared correctly, either car will be good for rally ..

Agreed, I also don't buy the Subaru symmetrical AWD system being superior in any way, shape or form.

Kracka 03-31-2010 03:07 PM

Re: What makes an Evo better than an STi?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 331927)
Agreed, I also don't buy the Subaru symmetrical AWD system being superior in any way, shape or form.

MNSubaru sure seems to think it is, but I don't buy it either. Does the STI have a front LSD?


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