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Let me see Kracka, the talon is down for a little bit, i will trty to be up for next week though. Good point Swifty about Vassil & Kevin.

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Couldn't match my best from last year, once I figured out how to launch it on these tires I couldn't hit any gears. My clutch switch which allows for no lift to shift as well as antilag between gears in not operational and I was trying to shift upwards of 8000 rpms. Then you get into the whole breaking up in higher gears issue, which we got figured out later in the day. My best pass in the car was 12.14 @ 99, needless to say I was on the brakes hard as to not get kicked out lol. Oh well, glad we went up there and found out what our issues are before the shootout, hopefully it will all be cleared up before then.

Chris

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I've run a 11.65@127 on 92 octane, I am pretty sure that is one of the quickest, pump gas, numbers on here.
Did you leave patches of rubber for 300+ feet?
I did ;). Its simple, this is the cars 3rd EVER time to the track, first time it was nearly stock. I had serious shifting issues (bad cable) and I need the nitrous to keep it on boost, until I can no lift gears.
I also need some good tires, or to turn the boost down to reasonable for the tires ;(. We'll see how it goes next weekend. With the new cables and the spray.
But 11.540 is slower than 11.53x so you are correct.
131 does trump 123 though ;).

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What kind of 60' and 1/8th mile times were you guys getting?

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Pump schmump. Same difference, going fast means going fast on whatever gas. Run what you brung is always what it ends up being.

the mph doesn't really add up for the power/weight though.. but meh. Supras go 130+ wtih 650 dynojet whp and weigh about the same if not a little less. My ghetto-fied maroon 1g that weighed in at 2995lbs went 132.9mph on high 500s on on that fwhp dynojet.

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I was making 454 whp on a dynojet though :D I am just giving you guys some crap while I can. I have had disappointing trips to the track too, it happens. I don't plan on taking my car to the level you guys are.

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I know ;). I don't know how much power I wasn't making, but I was running 28psi peak and it was very very hot.
I am going to have to boostleak test the system to make sure, but I am pretty sure it was just the intake temps holding me back.

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I need a Shep tranny bad. All this talk of going to the track with some high hp cars is killing me. All I need is a tranny, and all I have is three busted ones.;) I need my 10 second slip.

Here is a basic rundown of my only time at the track with some real power:

Well for a total of three passes total at the current power levels(571fwhp/490tq), and with shifting issues that sound as bad, if not worse then Swannys. At 28lbs(running out of fuel.. would run more otherwise), a 11.4 @ 132 still holds up pretty well. I think two runs were a high 1.7, and a low 1.8 60ft.. But my best run(third) should have been THE run, when an intercooler pipe popped off in the middle of the third run, with my best 60ft ever(1.6x). And with dropping down to 11-12lbs?(Shane may remember)with the pipe mostly off, that run was still an 11.5@122?. That run was my quickest eigth mile as well, I'll have to look for those slips.

I have severe spinning issues in first and second due to street tires as well. It's not that easy to make power, then get a perfect pass. Between relearning how to launch your car, then getting a series of perfect shifts, and not having any mechanical/tunning issues, running the # you want is not as easy as it may seem. So for those who have done it.. congrats. I just need some seat time.

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Yeah, there's a big difference between having a good setup and running a good time at the track. I've been able to leave 300' strips of rubber since 1999, but due to this and that, haven't gotten any better than a couple of lame 11.9s. After two years of shifting problems, got that solved and now I've got fuel issues. You fix one thing and something else pops up, it never ends when you get to a certain level.

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Well then its pretty easy. My car was down on power/time to accelerate or is really heavy.
I bet its the first one, but im going to weigh it tonight. I was spinning very very hard, then bogging into 3rd and slowly pulling thru boost (2 seconds according to aem logs).

Shane:
my 60's ranged from 1.755-1.975 330's were 5.053-5.669.
1/8's were 7.583-8.085 at 87.68-93.26mph
I was spending nearly 2 seconds according to the aem log burning out, then bogging and re-spinning in 1st..spin thru 2nd, and bog the 2-3..build boost from 7psi and get to 22psi 1.5 seconds later, and FINALLY haul out on the track.
I gained anywhere from 36-43mph in the last 1/8 track, pending how shitty it went, but the car was useless/slow the first 1/8 of the track.
Pretty much it was a fun experience to get more seat time ::shrugs::

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Best 60' was a 1.63...

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Were you getting good 1/8th mile times and mphs? On a no traction until 3rd gear run I did 102mph in the 1/8th and then 138mph in the 1/4. On my next pass, when I went 10.4, I got some traction (1.79 60') and it was 109mph in the 1/8th, but then 4th gear broke and ruined the mph.

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If you were bogging on the 2-3 shift, then you need to go ahead and let it bounce off the rev limiter a bit before the shift. It took me a while to figure that out. It lets the tires catch up and you will hook better.

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Yup, I did that in 1-2, and 2-3 unfortunatly. When I could get into third that is.. I can't tell you how many times I've accidently punched the stereo headunit while trying to get into third.

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By bogging I meant I couldn't get 3rd quick enough to keep the boost up (shifter cables issue).

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You guys are too funny :D It's funny to listen to everyone post their times, but then follow it with "I had issues" ... clutch was shot, had shifting issues, traction issues, launch issues, car was breaking up past 7k, etc..etc.. We're all guilty of it. My best is 12.05 @ 117 (last year) but I know that's not the fastest car on here. It is in my area though. I went out to Rock once this year, but like everyone else "I had issues" :) The tensioner that keeps the a/c belt tight, unscrewed itself and was ready to fall off. Didn't catch it till I was home. I think that caused major vibration, thus knock. It's pretty close to the knock sensor. It was either that or shitty year old opened C14 gas or a combo of both. Could only get a 12.10 and that was the first run of the day. Won't go for 11's until this f'n weather cools down.

These times were on a 50trim, at roughly 22-23# full weight 99GSX. I'm happy.

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I weighed my "boat" 3780 race weight w/me in it.
I'd like to get that down to 3600lbs by the end of season, 3700lbs if I keep the a/c.

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Somone fill me in, is it worth my time to read this thread or is it a bunch of cock fighting?

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You guessed it.

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just read it jakey, everyone here already knows you LOVE the cock!

ooooo MAJOR BURN! j/k ;)

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Trimspa, baby! ;)

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This is the longest thread I've ever seen about two mid eleven second cars bickering.

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^^^ wut he sayd.

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Dont want to be the only one to ask but lemme get this straight....

~500 AWHP at the track at 28psi
~535 AWHP on a dyno w/ pump gas at 22psi
~700 AWHP on a dyno w/ race gas at 32psi

So... how exactly does this work?

22 psi = 535
28 psi = 500
but 32 is the sweet spot (Well out of the range of the turbos) and it hits 700

Maybe you can clear this up for me :)

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I have no insight on this particular case, but I usually dont claim my 1 time high hp # when im out on the street or at the track. I give a realistic guess based on the conditions and how the car feels. A high hp car with a finicky tune can certainly have quite a bit of swing when its not in its "perfect tuning environment."

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I agree with you there but there is still this part that doesnt work for me:

6 psi more boost from 22 loses 30+ HP but when raising the boost 4psi from 28 it gains over 200. I dont care how crappy the day or tune is... that doesnt happen :)

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Over the years one thing has held true. When things don't go according to planned there is always excuses why. Some of them are legit and some are just bullshit.

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That 535 wasn't safe. It makes about 480awhp on pump at a safe tune. (And that's not so safe, IMHO)

The "500" on pump is a guess, shit was fucked up. The 703AWHP was a "best of" type run on the dyno, but it is a sound 690ish at 31psi.

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ok... he still said he was running 28 psi....

So at 28psi he makes ~480 but at 32 he makes ~700? I understand now :rolleyes:

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Oh the edit explained it better....

At 28 psi is around 480-500 and at 31 it is a solid 690. I should think about running 3 more psi if I can gain 200 ponies from it!

I guess I dont need to say anymore.. You guys explained it enough, lol.

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Dear Lord...
The pump numbers are at a pumpable boost...22psi. Why is this so hard? A safe tune would use 20psi, at that boost we were seeing 485ish.

So all this bullshit is coming from the guy that "beat" a 125+mph Civic with his near stock Evo? I guess intercooler pipes blow off...

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I didn't catch that statement from Swanny about the 500 whp at the track, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't think that is what he actually meant. 600 whp would make a lot more sense.

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Hey man... The proof is in the pudding! Video's prove all.

What did he run on race gas at the track?

So you're telling me he tuned it on race gas, emptied the tank, then put pump gas in it AGAIN after already running the car on pump gas at the track? That makes no sence.

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Let me explain this better...

They said:

We made ~530 on pump gas at 22psi.

Then they said:

We made ~703 on c16 at 32psi.

Then they said:

At the track we were making ~500 at 28psi.

Explain this to me.. Ill even sum it up:

22psi = 530
28psi = 500 (30 horses LESS than at 22)
32psi = 703


Now about me "beating" a civic. Yes, I trap over 125mph. I had footage as well as his timeslip showing that his car was slower. I dont really want to get into that whole bs again. (And not sure how a GT35r is near stock)

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That is where he said 500 at the track.

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And that is where he wrote 28 psi at the track.....

So do you understand NOW?

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You are like a broken record of stupidity.

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Swanny is the absolute king of "crazy gorilla math" but this isn't too hard to follow.

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evodude, are you going to come up to mnpls soon to beat the civic again?

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Evilevo-
We were talking about pump gas numbers. I was at the track on pump gas, around 22psi and made about 500awhp...ran 11.65@127
At the track this time it was 28psi, and I would estimate it around 640awhp...and ran the 11.54@131
Here is the breakdown on the car now:
The car makes a consistant 680-695awhp around 31-32psi right now. The intercooler temps play havoc on that. It has a best of 703awhp at 32.4psi and a worst of 663awhp at 31-31.5psi on db's dyno. I have yet to see what it does with nitrous cooling the intake charge and a bit more boost.

At the track it spun hard. Tell you what...the people complaining about these mid 11 second cars bickering, I invite you to come see my "mid 11 second car" on the highway. I do have excuses for the car, but in the end I am not saying its a 9 second car. I am saying its a mid 11 second car with problems and moves out plenty well on the highway, it should move out on the track next time there.

That is the point of racing, to find your problems, iron them out, and go faster. Not go to the track once or sit and benchrace because you have xxx mods and so and so went xx@xxxmph with those mods, so you MUST be that fast ;).