Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

this graph made me lol, it only covers at most 65% n so it has 35% fudge factor

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Nice try. Strongly approve and strongly disapprove are only partial categories. Combined they equal 99% as shown here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

And if you care about their methodology:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...us/methodology

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

I wasn't a fan of Bush either. *shrug*

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

I love the fact that healthcare can now no longer be socialized. :biggrin:

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

also look at the numbers. 1500 likely voters. thats like .01% of voters.

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sorry we dont have a poll that is approval ratings for the "other" party.

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This reminds me of a little joke.

> A guy goes into a bar, there's a robot bartender. The robot says,
> "What will you have?"*
> The guy says, "Martini." The robot brings back the best martini ever
> and says to the man, "What's
> your IQ?"
> The guy says, "168".
> The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and
> medical technology.*
>
> The guy leaves, but he is curious, so he goes back into the bar. The
> robot bartender says, "What will you have?"
> The guy says, "Martini". Again, the robot makes a great martini, gives
> it to the man and says, "What's your IQ?"*
> The guy says, "100."
> The robot then starts to talk about NASCAR, Budweiser and John Deere
> tractors. The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he
> will try it one more time.
>
> He goes back into the bar. The robot says, "What will you
> have?" The guy says, "Martini". And the robot brings him another great
> martini. The robot then says,
> "What's your IQ?"
> The guy says, "Uh, about 50."
> The robot leans in real close and says,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "So, you people still happy you voted for Obama?"*

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

They poll nearly ever day of the year. Clearly nothing will ever satisfy you if it ever says anything bad about your fearless leader, no matter what the source is or how the information is obtained.

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I can't help but laugh at this.
:draught2:

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yea partial categories, when you add all 4, you still end up with 167%

if you look at approve and disapprove, its a 45/54 split in favor of disapprove. those equal 99% but are still only partial categories.

im just pointing out that the strongly approve/disapprove graph is extremely misleading.

i also wouldnt call a study that is based on an automated cold call machine, that targets people that are home during normal work hours, I.E. unemployed or retired people very accurate. god forbid you ever press the wrong button on a phone.

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

for approval ratings based on many sources, rasmussen clearly has the lowest ratings

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Thanks for the info rather than simply turning your nose up at it. Regardless, the trend is obvious.

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Same with the flip side buddy, if he were to ever do something right it wouldnt satasfy you. Its like you and a lot of the people in the strongly disagree, because hes the first black president hes supposed to be some hero and fix everything his first year. This is simply not achievable and he never promised such. What did you do that made 2009 such an epic year? Did you solve world hunger, Well shit then i disapprove of what you did last year. LOL
People had such high expectations from him because it was such an epic defeat and accomplishment, but its simply not achievable for ANY President to have to deal with as much as he did the first year of his presidency. Look at the poll i posted. Notice how when a tragedy struck it was met with a huge leap in approval, but then it shot down like a bullet. That to me strikes much harder than a gradual shift. It means that people were more or less "Hopefull" that the president would do a good job, but then they were quickly shot down when he sucked it up big time. Polls like these dont necessarily reflect the presidents job, but the overall countries mood at the time the poll is taken. (9/11 approval very high, because people were coming together as a nation with a hate against terrorism, but then went right down when they heard about the presidents actions right after... katrina same thing, saddams capture, same thing. etc) People are upset because they dont have jobs, the economy is in the shitter, they are sick with H1N1 and dont have health insurance so they cant go to a hospital. Then they turn to the fearless leader that decided to take on these super challenges.
Critics are people who cant DO, so they complain. So unless you can do something to fix this country, then please STFU, we dont need any more critics in this world.

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LOLZ at H1N1 reference.

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Saving this quote for future use when you will need to be reminded of the same thing.

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It's foolish to ever be satisfied with the government. Especially in the state it's in now.


You're a decent guy, but a complete hypocrite and possibly the worst debater I've ever met.

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Quoted for the lulz.

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well .... correct me if i am wrong but obama kind of inhaireted this shit hole of the way the u.s. runs things and the economy. it isnt going to change in a month or two,

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So because I'm critical of the president you feel it's right to question my accomplishments, where as you are a supporter of the president so you are cut and dry? I do what I have to do to make myself a better person in this world? What about you? You moved to California to run away from the things in Minnesota that were essentially holding you down, you have a child out of wedlock and now look, you're back in Minnesota. Color me surprised. You're just as much of a critic as I am, buddy.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Heh, political arguments always bring out worst in people.

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That and religion.

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Apparently I'm a bad person because I don't like our president.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

That's something that I agree with. That applies to all polls, whether the conclusion agrees with your position or not.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Ummmm, the mood of the country is in direct relation to how they feel about the president's job at this point in time. And as of right now, IT SUCKS!!!

But I don't want Obie to change a thing. Christmas will come early in November.

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All democrats do is spend money, where do they think the money they spend comes from anyways (well besides borrowing it from China)? People want all these government programs and bailouts, it's our (taxpayers) money to begin with.

Then every time there is something happening in another country, we have to rush over and spend millions or billions of dollars that we don't even have to help them out. I agree with helping people in need, but it's foolish when we can't really afford it. I think this would keep happening no matter who the president is though.

We need someone who's a normal guy that lives modestly and isn't rich, then they would actually know what the value of a dollar is and know how the real world works. With the way campaigning is, this is probably never going to even come close to happening though.

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did we forget about clinton? he was a democrat he turned a deficit into a 560 billion dollar SURPLUS.

then came bush, the republican. he turned that surplus into an 11 TRILLION dollar deficit. he spent more than 20 times the amount of money we actually had

seems to me recent history is the exact opposite of what you have stated

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Don't expect armchair republicans to have their facts straight. Actually, don't expect anyone posting on the internet to have their facts straight.


edit: lmao, this thread is funny, I'm really glad I didn't let myself get caught up in it so far. You guys have some of the dumbest ideas.

jrohner, for example wants poor guys running the country. Great idea! You know Bush v2.slow doubled the presidential salary? Yeah, from 200,000 to 400,000. If I was president, I'd do that shit for fucking free.

And to people like Matt and maybe vicious (sorry brah, I don't know your real name), when you say stuff like, "your leader" or "he's not my president" or anything to that effect, you are just chiseling away at the integrity of this country. grow the motherfuck up. George bush was my president as much as he was yours. I didn't like him, most people didn't, but it doesn't change the facts. If you are a citizen of this country, which most of you take for granted because you were born here, the president of the US is your prez. sheesh.

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Deficits by year
http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/...amabudget1.jpg

Good read about deficits between bush and obama:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Would you please get unbiased sources? for FSM's sake!

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

I just searched for "deficit obama" and that is the first link. I'll search further, sheesh. All sources are biased one way or another. It's a Washington Post graph.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

You see FBB, the greatest thing about this country is that you (at this time anyway) have the freedom to say your president is wrong, sucks, don't like him or what ever. It's called freedom for a reason. If you want to drink the Kool-Aide and be a good little sheep, then go ahead. But it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we are heading in the wrong direction. If you are really so blind to the corruption and back room deals that are right out in the open with Obies administration, then there really is no hope for you and I'll just have to take your post concerning it as dribble. If Obie is soooo right for the country, why hasn't he gotten everything he's wanted? He owned the House and the Senate. Didn't need one Republican to get what he wanted. But even his fellow Democrats are saying he's going way too far to the left and causing him problems. There are many Dems that are relieved Scott Brown won because it in a way takes the heat off of them and the bill they really didn't care for is stopped. Even the things he did get are so pork laden it makes any other administration look like boy scouts.

His statement, "What do you think a stimulus bill is? It's a spending bill.", is wrong. What a stimulus really is, is the re-insertion of money back into the marketplace that never should have been taxed out of it in the first place. This country is riding a very thin line between taxation and economic collapse. The government can't keep pulling money away from the private sector like it is without causing major damage.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Go find your own source and post it up.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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Is there such a thing anymore?

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i like realclearpolitics they tend to take info from many sources and combine it into usable information. instead of conduction their own studies

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Another reason why Obie is loosing followers, and here's an example why, they lie!!

http://biggovernment.com/2010/01/24/...rk/#more-64698

This is what can happen when you don't get to read a bill before it's passed.

Video from the article.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/3943915/first-do-no-harm

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Here's why partisan politics are a joke. Obama hasn't united jack shit. There is more disparity between the parties than ever before. Hopefully this helps explain why I'm not afraid to support someone who isn't full blooded democrat or republican.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/125345/Ob...President.aspx

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Decent article with plenty of non-biased links that show the facts about his "surplus"

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

Basically he "borrowed" from our Social Security and imposed alot of cuts on our military. I wonder who got stuck with the bill for rebuilding and re-stocking our military?

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A little old, but gets the point across.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmXxBaLVDAk&hd=1

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

Guess that kind of puts it into perspective now doesn't it.

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 

This just in... http://www.startribune.com/politics/.../82583747.html

Obama to seek spending freeze

Under pressure over mammoth deficits, he would curtail spending on many domestic programs for three years.

Read the entire article, the good and the bad.

One thing that caught my eye...
Then goes on to say...
I applaud him for putting forth such an effort, but it's like he's campaigning all over again, sugar coating everything and trying to pull the wool over our eyes. I don't really know what to think.