Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Shane/Danny have that effect on people, especially now with those pretty Grimmspeed manifolds, and other goodies on the shelves everywhere you look.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Got the cams installed this past weekend along with doing the 60k maintenance on the car. Again huge thanks to Shane at DB Performance for all the tips when installing the cams, a great deal on the cams, the great tune, and making time for before and after pulls.

On to the graphs: You can see it made a bit more power and held it a lot better up top. Less boost and a more conservative tune as well.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/C3L1CA/photo1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y202/C3L1CA/photo3.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/photo2-1.jpg

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Wootski! LOL @ 30-35whp gains for the entire top-end being 'a bit' to you :D

Seriously though, said it before and I'll say it again, this is a fantastic power level to rock a DD evo at. Now just enjoy and have fun with it!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Lookin good man!

BTW I have a can of night shades if you need some more. It's still nearly full as I only used it to slighty smoke some corner lights on the Envoy. If ya wanna use some, feel free, all I ask is you don't use the entire can :)

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

x2...in my opinion its all downhill after stock turbo e85 land, great setup. Bigger setups do have their perks though.

Regardless, great power!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

pretty sweet numbers! that torque curve is just insane and the hp curve is amazing!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Kick ass numbers dude!

If you were still looking for a 3rd gauge for your pod thingy I saw something from Diiirk@AwdMotorsports yesterday about being able to log oil pressure with the AEM gauge through the stock ECU, that might be pretty slick

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Thanks for the compliments fellas!

I know I should be happy and just drive it but if I find a good deal on a manifold to bolt up my old dsm turbo it'll pretty much be a done deal. haha

Thanks dude but after a while I think the side markers looks dark enough for me. I appreciate the offer though!

Yea still looking for a 3rd gauge. Got a linkzors? That would be pretty swet to be able to log oil pressure. Still need to wire up my wideband and map sensor to log though too!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Hope this helps, it was in a thread about logging with the AEM wideband. You might have to get a hold of him to figure out how to do it, who knows there may be 10 threads explaining how to do it, but this is what I saw:


http://forums.evolutionm.net/8409694-post10.html

http://forums.evolutionm.net/ecuflas...og-output.html

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Got the thing lowered on some tanabe springs with MR struts this weekend. Ride feels smoother than stock and looks great too.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...omcanon124.jpg

Also got my parts to install the nitrous but still can't figure out how to wire it up like my dsm. Any of the evo tuning guru's know how to configure the ecu to turn on an output above a certain RPM and above a certain mph? More so just the RPM as i would wire it up to a main power switch.

Also got an STM egr block off plate so I'll get around to installing that and delete all that egr garbage one of these days.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Looks sweet! Blue evos are one of my favorites.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Stock ecu as of now only has input triggers, not output triggers. I bet you could wire together a pretty simple circuit that would take voltage from the CAS and speedo and output 5v when both are above a certain voltage pretty easily. I bet shane or my buddy Jordan Price could whip it out w/o too much trouble once you figured out the trigger values you want (get them from the logger).

New ride height looks great, just in time for pot-hole season! :D

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Thanks man!

I guess I used the wrong terminology maybe? On the dsmlink I wired it up with a relay, a power switch, and to the FPR on the ecu. DSMLink had the option to set the FPR up so that above a certain RPM, above a certain MPH, above certain throttle position, and below certain knock it would trigger the "output" which if memory serves was a ground. So for example above 5k, above 97% throttle, above 50mph and below 1 count of knock it would complete the circuit. However the solenoids would only have power once the master power switch was manually switched inside the car.

I can figure out the wiring up the solenoids and all that fun stuff no problem. I just don't know how to set up something like the FPR controll in the evo ecu. I bought a 1.3u cable the other day and downloaded EvoScan and ECUFlash so I can log/flash if I really knew what I was doing. I've also spend hours trying to figure out how to set up a switch like the FPR was setup like on DSMLink but the closest thing I found was something with the intercooler sprayer. Any advice or links to reading would be appreciated!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

You used the right terminology, and again I'm pretty sure there's only inputs used (to switch maps or read different sensors) and not any outputs available.

How are you liking the new power level with the cams and re-tune?

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Ohhh I gotcha, thanks for the input!

I'm really liking the car the more I drive it. It's nice to have a little bit of power and all the nice features that my dsm didn't have. A big part of me misses the raw power of my old car but its nice having a super reliable car.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Went to cars and cafe this morning and all was well. Had a nice clean car and got to do my first real test and compare after leaving. Well on the way home my car started to make a funny noise at a light and then died while driving normally. Pulled over tore off the top timing cover to see a loose timing belt:scared: Then pull the valve cover while waiting for the tow truck to come and see all the exhaust rockers were out of place and pulled the plugs to see some not so good news. Once it was home and I had some lunch I started ripping the head off...

Some pretty intense carnage below, not 100% what happened yet. It has had 3k miles and about 3 weeks since I did the timing belt/cams and it made no strange noise during that time or anything that would make me think something is up. Also checked that the pin can still go into the tensioner after spinning the motor over and letting it sit for 20 minutes multiple times just to be sure. Now I'm kind of SOL

Onto the pictures:wedgie:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/7952660a.jpg

Cyl 1:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/611e0d05.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/ee0e1c6c.jpg
Is that a hole?! haha
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/7057bbf0.jpg

Cyl 2:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/3b547a02.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/8d0a8086.jpg

Cyl 3:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/9de80ac6.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/053a82a1.jpg

Cyl 4:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/e18b9d1c.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/9dbdded9.jpg

How she currently sits:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/f4efb449.jpg

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Holy shit, how did the valves brake off like that? looks like the belt is still intact. Something most have slipped in the timing.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Wow I can't believe there's that much damage. I hope you find out what caused this to happen.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

^x2.
Sorry to hear man.

That car looks so good too.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Holy eff, all 4 cylinders. Sucks a big one dude!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

FUCK. Man, I was not expecting that after looking down into the spark plug holes. :(

From the limited pics, it looks like the head may be salvageable though??? Damn man, I've just been seriously sick to my stomach since this happened since we were both pounding on our cars just minutes earlier. Very easily could have been either of us.

Do you think you know what caused it yet?? bad tensioner? bad valve spring? did you do springs when you put the cams in?

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5180/...5f7cf85873.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5187/...71d9600d31.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5052/...7b213d6cbb.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/...4ee963199d.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5057/...4483c0e52a.jpg

:(

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

That is some crazy carnage!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Holy hell! That's a lot of damage! That really sucks dude :(

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

What the hell is it with this year and EVO's?! Sorry to hear about this Brad. :( If you ever need an extra set of hands, let me know! Shit, if the belt is in good condition I'd say a probable cause could be a bad tensioner. Either way, I hate to see this happen to any of us!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Yea not 100% what caused it. Either a tensioner or my fuck up. Exhaust cam has a nice groove in it and looks like my turbo might be fucked too. Beer makes the world better?!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y20...A/1df45606.jpg

Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

I suppose if you put any amount of shrapnel through the motor it will end up in the turbo. No good

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

time for that buschnuts mani so you can toss on that turbo nobody wants to buy from ya?

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Well, at least I wasn't the only Evo to dump on the way back from Cars and Coffee I guess (lol JP)...seriously though WTF, I just did this 1 year ago...my car has spent more time on a tow track then the road lately.

I feel your pain man, I hope you get it sorted out, it really sucks!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Dang. Good luck with the repairs.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Holy crap! That's way worse than mine was, sorry to hear it man. Hopefully your block and/or head are salvageable, cores for these things are not cheap. But look at it this way, here's your chance to go with a 2.3 or 2.4 and throw a real turbo on it. I've been putting mine together this weekend, but after seeing all the carnage recently, almost makes me want to sell it the minute it's together and get a Volvo. :D

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Shitty man, are either of the cam alignment pins broken?

Give me a ring if you need help putting her back together

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Sorry to hear man!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Dude Brad that sucks man! This is just a sign that you should build the motor and turn this car into your new "tin can". How you explained what happen sorta sounds like how I blew up my subaru...weird

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

BRAD:
How many Evo timing belts had you done before doing your own?

As someone who personally is more familiar with DSMs, I had helped a friend do his Evo Timing belt. Did it exactly as you would a DSM, and didn't understand why the belt had too much slop in it. Realized, oops, The eccentric tensioner pulley GOES THE OPPOSITE way than on a DSM. I made that mistake, but caught it after scratching my head why the belt seemed a little loose. Could that be a possibility?

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

I've done zero evo timing belts but when it was put together the belt was not loose in the slightest and didn't make any strange noises for the 3 weeks I had been driving it and the close to 3k miles I put on it since doing the timing belt.

I also did the put the pin back in the tensioner after spinning the motor over and letting it sit 3 times to be sure there was the right tension on it. Who knows, probably my mess up at something but it just really blows.

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Holy eff dude, this is not how its supposed to be. :(

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Man that sucks dude, mitsus are dying all over!

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Seems to be a spring thing...same thing happened last year at this time.

This truly does suck though, you just got the evo...sad times man :(

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

damn, those mitsu gods do not appreciate us right now :( sad to see that

Re: '03 BBY Evo
 

Yea it kinda sucks but I think I'll pull the motor tonight and see if the block and lower end are messed up beyond repair. If it doesn't look too bad I'll get a parts list over to Shane and see what the $ damage could be or buy a beater to get to work in and build it as I get the extra money. All I know is a need a car asap though as riding my motorcycle to work this morning in the rain and it being like high 30's wasn't fun.

I think I'll keep it though and make it a little more fun in the process. I missed the power of my 2g anyways but do like being able to turn, have 4 doors, heat/ac and most of all a radio. I didn't think this project thread would be updated very often, boy was I wrong. haha