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dsmreck 03-07-2014 01:45 AM

Re: team ab drag race and street builds
 
ok the clusters are at my local performance tranny shop to get those end bearings off so for the time being anyone want to talk clutches for our cars this year? I will be shifting @ 9-9.5k and not sure about andre yet. he may got less say 8-9k.

i will run drag at pg and do some street driving for sure. My car is not a track only beast yet.

goodhart 03-07-2014 08:34 AM

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Twin disk for sure. Pick a brand.

JET 03-07-2014 09:11 AM

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Yep, twin disk. You will get some looks on the street because it makes some noise, but works great. Do the clutch slave replacement to give you some more engagement play.

dsmreck 03-07-2014 12:34 PM

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Thanks guys we are for sure going twin I guess the pick one option is the game? We were thinking ptt with high torque plate and metallic disk. I am aware they sound like crap, just want a good clutch at a good price really. Something that I can use on streets and drag race

mondale 03-07-2014 02:52 PM

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I used a quartermaster twin disk with HD gear drive disks. I had the bronze ferrometallic race disks in it when I had a 5 speed in the car. I drove it all over and had no driveability issues with it. I also used the competition clutch fork that is clearanced for the twin disk. The engagement was smoother and the pedal force required was less than the old 6 puck ACT that was in the car before. It does sound like you are at a train crossing when you are on decel from speed so you get some funny looks, but It was a good clutch that holds a lot of power.

dsmreck 03-07-2014 11:28 PM

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ok so is the ptt the same thing as the qm as far as the gear drive part?

dsmreck 03-09-2014 11:20 PM

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starting to strip the bay for cleanup, repaint, and some wire tuck.
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0222.jpg

dsmreck 03-11-2014 10:44 PM

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must have taken out 100 lbs tonight, crazy how much crap you don't need when you really start to think about it. next steps are degrease the bay and start sanding to prep for paint. also considering getting some buckets on the cheap to get rid of the heavy seats. I added up my trans parts from jacks site and looks like ill have $1,400 isn into a rebuild with a 4 spider. kinda depressing but at least i'll know its a good trans. Just never ended up finding that known good trans for cheaper so I guess thats my option. I think i'm going to make up a lexan rear window this year also to save on a little more weight until i get a carbon hatch. other to do is ptt twin disk, 2150's, timing belt, maybe turbo upgrade, 4th rear diff mount, need some diff wheels and tires and all the little things that add up to big money and hope to make pg1

dsmreck 03-16-2014 12:47 PM

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some updates, I have a new trans in route from canada. also I tore apart andre trans and lucky we did as we found a shim inside the center diff just waiting to be eaten up in there. Also his motor is now fully assembled and timed ready to drop in. sorry about the crappy lighting. http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0260.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0259.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0258.jpg

evotuner 03-16-2014 08:57 PM

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Yeah get some lighting haha, really cool builds you guys have going here. I'll be excited to see them at PG this year.

dsmreck 03-16-2014 10:34 PM

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Thanks man deff gonna be fun trying to get kicked off the track

dsmreck 03-23-2014 10:15 PM

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i know the lighting is terrible, but the engine bay and new side skirts are all painted and done. FINALLY
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0281.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0283.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0283.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0285.jpg

97gsexx 03-25-2014 07:30 PM

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Awesome build, looks great! Love the color of the comp cover/wastegate.

spoolin d dub 03-26-2014 07:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmreck (Post 441861)
ok so is the ptt the same thing as the qm as far as the gear drive part?

No. Do not get a PTT. It has major flaws and the designer blames it on the tranny builder or installer of the clutch. Mine blew up on a 2nd gear pull and stripped all the splines off my input shaft. Get a QM from TMZ performance. It has a great feel, is very streetable , and holds power. I'll be shifting at 10k with rev limiter set to 10.5k
http://www.tmzperformance.com/Mitsub...h%20Parts.html


Build looks like its going to be awesome

goodhart 03-26-2014 11:08 AM

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Tim Zimmer is def the man to talk to about clutches.

This also looks bad ass if you have the coin:
http://magnusmotorsports.com/product.../#.UzLr5fldX5g

dsmreck 03-26-2014 11:21 AM

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I agree Tim zimmer is da bomb but I'm actually going to give the competition clutch twin a go this year. They were very interested in my feedback on the clutch and what Rpms I can shift at smoothly.

Andre is deff running the ptt twin this year though so hopefully we both have a bit of luck

dsmreck 03-30-2014 08:56 PM

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finally have a solution to my transmission for now. i've now successfully taken apart 4 trannys and have two back together
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0299.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0302.jpg

Dark2g 03-30-2014 09:03 PM

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I tried fiberglass for the first time to make a duct for the turbo. I never really knew how easy it was to work with, I am pretty happy with how it turned out. Basically made it run over the flange on the compressor housing so I couldn't just accidentally drop something in turbo when working on it. Got my tranny and motor installed and starting to weld some v-band stuff up and intercooler piping. The front facing manifold is kinda making everything a total nightmare. The hood I got from cornfed hits on the manifold and not sure what I am gonna do to get around that. I am pretty sure any stock style hood will not work. The Seibon is essentially only 1 layer thick were it hits. Also intercooler piping is a pretty big challenge between the radiator support-intercooler it is a pretty tight space. I am open to suggestions on hood if anyone had any thoughts or maybe a better style of hood.
What do u guys think?

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...oads/image.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ds/image-1.jpg

DSMINMN 03-30-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark2g (Post 442768)
I tried fiberglass for the first time to make a duct for the turbo. I never really knew how easy it was to work with, I am pretty happy with how it turned out. Basically made it run over the flange on the compressor housing so I couldn't just accidentally drop something in turbo when working on it. Got my tranny and motor installed and starting to weld some v-band stuff up and intercooler piping. The front facing manifold is kinda making everything a total nightmare. The hood I got from cornfed hits on the manifold and not sure what I am gonna do to get around that. I am pretty sure any stock style hood will not work. The Seibon is essentially only 1 layer thick were it hits. Also intercooler piping is a pretty big challenge between the radiator support-intercooler it is a pretty tight space. I am open to suggestions on hood if anyone had any thoughts or maybe a better style of hood.
What do u guys think?

This is just an idea; VIS' G Speed hood. I personally have always liked their look and I have to imagine they have more clearance. Here are a few photos.


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps70f5824b.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps0256838b.jpg


http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps36c5d35c.jpg


dsmDolney just bought the above car with that style hood. Maybe he could chime in on how much clearance there in over a stock hood.

Dark2g 03-30-2014 10:30 PM

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Yeah I like how that hood looks as well. I messaged dolney about his. Still not sure if it would work or not. Gonna probably end up just cutting a hole in the hood just sucks cause I really like the hood the way that it is. I am pretty sure I could send it back to john at force and he would remake it for me. He never ran it so he has no idea that it was interfering with being able to use a hood I am pretty sure and he seems cool just not sure how long something like that would take him to get to.

97gsexx 04-01-2014 11:52 AM

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I vote stock hood.

dsmreck 04-01-2014 12:53 PM

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^ I'm not sure your getting it, we are saying the hood will not clear the manifold and also now the half radiator will also not clear the manifold

97gsexx 04-01-2014 01:08 PM

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Ah I didn't see that my bad

dsmreck 04-04-2014 05:45 PM

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Mucho parts delivery for my red rocket. Kiggly crank trigger, fluidampr harmonic poop slinger, gates rubber band, competition twin disk, and a bunch of bolts and gaskets u could forget about until you pay for them. So far I'm ready to prime the oil pump and then time the motor, than maybe fab up a timing cover and make sure I have a starter plate that will work. Who knows maybe the weather will cooperate and I'll get to drive it this year. Still undecided on what to do about the turbo. Keep the 3582 the way it is this year or upgrade to a 3586. Hmmmmmm does size matter this year???

turbotalon1g 04-04-2014 06:54 PM

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Nice!

Keep the turbo, just be a waste of time and/or money at this point.
You might run the 3582 and want to go straight to a 3794 or something, size might matter if you feel insecure? lol

dsmreck 04-04-2014 08:58 PM

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lol funny post man, but why would this be a waste as fp site says my turbo would go from 62.5 to 75 lb/min. thats 100hp difference.

turbotalon1g 04-05-2014 08:36 AM

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Lol.

Because not everyone maxed turbos. Like I said you might want to go way bigger or something. Plus not like that option will go away so you don't need to do it now. But if you want to and it won't hold your progress up then go ffor it

dsmDolney 04-05-2014 11:18 AM

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hey guys I have not been paying attention to this build for the past couple days but the hood I have does clear a lot better than a stock hood I don't know if I would clear a stock hood even but I love the way my hood looks also it looks clean I think

dsmreck 04-05-2014 12:05 PM

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i pretty much maxed it out last year so thats why I'm thinking about it. basically I can handle the power just need to make sure I get what is truly needed as in wheels and tires and whatever else.

dsmdolney thanks for the info, andre actually sent out his manifold back to force to have john try and fix it, so if the extra room is needed maybe that style hood is the answer.

dsmDolney 04-05-2014 01:22 PM

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When you repainted ur bay what did you all take off did you remove all the brake lines and stuff or just keep them on im repainting mine right now atleast working on it

evotuner 04-05-2014 01:38 PM

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Very true about the gaskets, I think the gasket set for my 2.3 build was 225-250 something in that area

goodhart 04-05-2014 02:23 PM

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What kind of power/times were you running with the 3582 last year?

turbotalon1g 04-05-2014 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmreck (Post 442952)
i pretty much maxed it out last year so thats why I'm thinking about it. basically I can handle the power just need to make sure I get what is truly needed as in wheels and tires and whatever else.

dsmdolney thanks for the info, andre actually sent out his manifold back to force to have john try and fix it, so if the extra room is needed maybe that style hood is the answer.

http://i2.wp.com/cleantechnica.com/f...30963ed6c7.jpg

dsmreck 04-05-2014 07:31 PM

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^ doesn't get much better than that.

Dsmdolney I took the brake booster, slave master etc out. The wires I took off drivers fender and pulled wires out and hung them out of the way. The wires that go thru the firewall I put in a bag and set on the ground. For the brake lines I pulled all the bolts and taped everything off and just pulled everything away from the firewall.

Haha yes people forget about the expense of gaskets, dowel pins, and bolts, it's the worst too because they add up fast and they are all boring parts to look at

Goodhart I broke my car last year on the launch at pg1, I did run a just getting a feel for it run before that, but it was like a 2.1 or 7 60ft and 3 seconds of shifting 13.25@117 or something.
Pg2 I failed tech for trying to do a battery in the trunk with no shut off switch

evotuner 04-06-2014 12:39 AM

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Shit i ran 12.2 @ 121 revving to 7500 dont feel bad haha.

I was really concentrating on the R/T didnt care about the actual times. I was just trying to beat the hoe next to me.

Mark Leasure 04-06-2014 02:25 PM

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Looking good, I like that people are still building dsm's. Think it will be ready for MAP's PG?

goodhart 04-06-2014 10:36 PM

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What kind of power were you making ? How do you know you were maxing it out ?

Dark2g 04-06-2014 11:08 PM

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Well after I realized hood was hitting I ended up sending the mani back to get a new flange installed to hopefully drop it down a bit. On a side not radiator wouldn't fit either way with the manifold so I decided to put it in passenger wheel / bumper area. Had to cut out the radiator support to make it work and tube it out. Turned out pretty good just got everything mounted back up tonight to make sure all the body lines still looked good. Have to weld on some mounts for a couple things and should be ready to be on track to re assemble soon hopefully.

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ZY/image-4.jpg



http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ZY/image-3.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ZY/image-2.jpg

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...ZY/image-1.jpg

Not sure on pg1 for me cause I will be having a baby right around then but will make it to pg2 for sure.

dsmreck 04-06-2014 11:44 PM

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soooo sick bro. funny how u can see my car under yours. my update is after some troubles with my kingly crank trigger i finally have my motor all put together and new clutch on and trans mated and in its new home.

thanks mark glad you checked this out.

goodhart i made 531 dialed back to 527 @db last year on my 2.4 @30psi. I was under the impression the 3582 was only good for about that as it starts to go way outside the chart.

http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0313.jpghttp://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/...s/IMG_0315.jpg

goodhart 04-07-2014 11:06 AM

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Only 30 psi ??? You on pump gas or what ?

Check out C3L1CA's old 2g build on here


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