Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Nice, that looks awesome, now I see how the drivers side motor mount bolts on with those three top bolts.
Question though, how do you get the larger bolt going down to secure? It looks like it's going into an empty tube, do you have a nut welded to the bottom side to thread into? Sorry for the noob questions, just trying to learn. Is it common to bolt to the front side of the block at the power steering holes (for tube front ends like this)?

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Yes there is a nut welded on the bottom side of the cap I made for the tube welded onto the frame rail. I do not know what is "common" for a tubular front end, but I have heard of people having issues cracking the 2.0 block around the #1 cylinder near where the driver side motor mount bolts onto the block. This would indicate its possible for the high hp AWD guy's to think twice about cutting down the driver side mount to just the timing belt side of the block for support. I figure I had to make a mount anyways, if it helps or not, I do not know.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Did you plan and know you were going to do a tube front end this whole time? This is butter, I love mandrel bends! Looks great keep up the good work, love your custom manifolds.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

From looking at Shep's and Brent's cars up close it has been in the back of my mind brewing. Then about a little over a month ago I really looked at the front of my car and decided this is the route I would take. This does work to the end all goal, so its a nice step in the right direction of light, strong, and easy to work on. If I knew I was going to remove the front of the car I would have gone a different route on the exhaust manifold but it will work just fine.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

the car did look great last night

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Going for the fastest GVR4 in the world? Or just looking to do some pulls on 94 against the local mustangs. :) That thing would rock with a 16g on it, Full Spool at 2 rpm.

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^ Have you not read this thread at all lol? I can't speak for John but I highly doubt he is building a tube chassis front end GVR4 with an air-to-water intercooler to race the local Mustangs on 94. :) Nor will a 16g ever be put on this car...

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

^Pretty sure that its going to see some runs against local mustangs.
Infact thats a sure bet.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Yes the intent of the build is to take the #1 slot for the gvr4's. Street racing, not so much anymore but I do plan to show up at porky's and other local events with it. And no on the 16g, nothing smaller the GT4202.

And the update: front end is almost all finish welded, I need to drop the front sub frame to do the rest. And most of the inside is finish welded also, I have about 2 more hours of welding then its on to dash and filling holes.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

great. get out there. show everyone whats up. great build. alot of money in this.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Yes a lot of cash, and a lot of my time also. Thanks for looking, off to the garage for more finish welding.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

just out of curiousity, how did you figure out what angles to mount the struts at?

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

A few pages back there is a pic of the car missing the front end and a weired looking tube and plate structure. The tube an plate structure was made BEFORE the front of the car was removed and the new front built to it.

Edit: this pic
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_2036.jpg

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

ah, so he used that frame to preserve the original angles. Nice, thanks Ryan.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Now the hole cage, front end structure is finish welded and gussets added where needed. We made a new mount for the steering wheel. And finished up the strut mounts. I have made the mounts for the engine dyno but a project at work has taken up the engine dyno for a few weeks so I still need to make the bell housing and run coolant hoses. I also finished up the exhaust manifold and intake manifolds, now I just need to flatten the head flanges and they will be good to bolt on. I will snap a few picks of the progress in the next few days. On the intake manifold I welded some big bungs to the bottom portion of the runners close to the plenum, then drilled 2 injector holes next to each other at an angle. So the 8 1600's will be my secondary's and the AEM will think they are 3200cc injectors with an external injector driver box. Then I will use a set of smaller injectors at the stock location for idle and low throttle.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

where do you work?

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

HiTech Motorsport in Elk River.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Thats an assload of fuel.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Word lol

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Cot damn, thats a lot of injector. What kind of fuel pump setup are you planning on running?

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

For the engine dyno they have a Aeromotive Eliminator pump, which has supported a 427 with a F2R super charger making around 1000 crank HP on E-85, and 8 1600's running it. In the car I will go with a Fuel Lab pump of similar size, they have a built in voltage regulator.

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

F2R + 427 = :drool:

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What Fuel Lab pump were you planning on? Sorry for all the questions, just its cool to see some one local go crazy on a build and I'm always trying to get new ideas.

Also curious because I guy on the link forums had a 42401 FueLab pump and he has had it fail twice on him already. Can't wait to see this thing in action.

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http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8036.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8038.jpg

Back on all 4, with the fenders just bolted back on with some original factory mounts.


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8040.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8042.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8041.jpg

A lot of gussets and a new steering wheel mount.


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8045.jpg

I added some material to the strut mounts.


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8057.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8053.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8056.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8061.jpg

I will have 3 injectors per runner. That is a custom 1 1/4" aluminum fuel rail, I just need to weld on some -10 AN fittings. The secondary fuel injectors are as high up the runner as they can be. They are mounted on the bottom to provide a little cleaner look to the engine bay.


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8049.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8047.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8046.jpg

Here is the finished exhaust manifold.


http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8067.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8068.jpg
http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/...cture_8071.jpg

Here is the pipe bender converted to hydraulic power. It now uses a 2" cylinder with a 10" stroke to bend the pipe. This is a 12v DC hydraulic power supply so a car battery with a battery charger back up is used during bending. It will do a 30 deg bend in one stroke of the cylinder and the system is really quiet and works great. We decided to build another work bench along the west wall of the garage so we needed to eliminate the hand operated bending arm. I have a few more pics in my garage section of my photo gallery. http://www.mitsustyle.com/photopost/useralbums.php

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Now that is what I call a fuel rail! Good call on mounting that beast on the bottom, would look a little clustered with 12 injectors... :D

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

is that going to clear the starter? or things like the alternator (if it's on the backside)? Either way, that's art! I'd put it up top!

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

That manifold is nuts! Keep up the good work. Wouldn't mind having that pipe bender either lol.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Looks good John.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

looking really good john

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Fucking nice.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Wow, that thing is gonna be able to dump some fuel! Everything looks really nice so far.

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Love the intake manifold, that is some crazy welding.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Looks good, I love tube frame anything.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Yea he's a local guy, Both pumps were bought brand new and both failed on him within a few miles. Why not just go with the A1000 or the Eliminator pump? I know they need a voltage regulator, But one of those can be gotten cheap.

Looking good John, I want a ride when its finished...

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Looks good, definitely keep updating the thread with pictures!

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

I will be going to discount steel tomorrow to pick up some aluminum square stock to make the frame to hold the front clip together. Right now the design will not have a hood that opens but pulling just 4 pins and a few zuss fasteners the front clip will slide of off 4 tube round tube pegs, then a multi pin connector for the head lights and turn signals. I try to post pics as needed, is there any parts of the car that I have not showed that you guys want to see?

~John

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

I gt an idea to do that to car a while ago when I learned about those connectors, keep up the hard work there is a lot of us that can't wait to see it.

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

What are your plans for rear suspension? 4 link with a ford 9" or keep blowing up stock axles? haha

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Is the turbo in the IC mock up pictures, the one you're using?

Re: 91 Galant VR4
 

Yes, its a journal bearing garrett GT 4202 with the 1.01 divided exhaust housing. This is the turbo I bought 6 years ago and it has about 20 miles on it.

~John