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When to do a little tuning last night, found some unwanted bugs.

My WB likes to randomly shit out I'm thinking due to voltage issues because of the error it is giving, but it doesn't make sense.

Tuning wise, I have no MBC and the cutout causes creep up to 17-19psi and for some reason on pump/92 oct with 950s and a evo9 fuel pump it just won't keep up.
Today I am going to boost leak test and swap in a 255 and see what happens and I'm gonna check into this dumb WB issue.

Oh windshield is getting replaced in a couple of hours, :woot:

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Watch out for mice in the tank.

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To wrap on a long week, the car runs great tuned it tonight.
The car needs a ISC badly, but I still tried to get it ready for the track tomorrow.

Well the trans is not at full pressure yet and it will not shift into 3rd.
I want to say thanks to everyone that helped me out this week, I'm gonna pay a visit to a local and see what we can do with this trans.

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wow, I can't believe teh last post was a week ago, seems like a month with all the fun I've been having.

I found another ISC around my garage that seems to work for the most part.

I spent 2 nights running down to Savage to have blkrosenova socket my TCU, went to see Jrohner today for some TCU programming action and the TCU was running in limp mode (stuck in 3rd). great right.

This was to wrap up my week of 2, thats right 2 failing Innovate LC1 widebands, I'm gonna have munchgsx stop by and check out my install because I can't believe its teh WB, the first one was bad it was off 2 volts.

Tomorrow I will try to put a bigger ground wire to my power distribution box to see if that helps this issues because I know the LC1 is very picky about grounds.

I'm determined to get this car solid, meaning a good tune and running and driving great before I have to put it away, no matter how many hurdles keep coming up.

I had the double sided tape on the doors removed and the car looks a lot better, hopefully sometime this week I will wash the car and wax it for the first time since owning the car, which reminds me of some good news, I received the title for the car so its officially mine which I hope means we will get along a lot better now.

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I feel the need to experience some automagic...nick never offers to give me a ride in his :(

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So, shitty update time.

LC1 in extended bung failed again, it was nice to drive the car on some back roads that are salt free.

TCU still doesn't work.

So now i have to send in teh complete LC1 which means uninstalling it again and the TCU I'll probably send in to the Link guys and get checked out.

All in all an utter fail for my last update for a while, this put me in the mood to not spend a damn penny on this thing until I'm working full time.

So basically I'm gonna put her in winter mode (4 jackstands high as I can), pull the wideband, and hopefully not touch it for a while.

When I do get a new heater that doesn't give me carbon mono poisoning I'll probably fix all the leaks I can, and kinda go from there I'd like to replace the LC1 I'm sick and tired of it.

Brown out.

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Sorry to hear that man, if you want/need help this winter with anything I would love to lend a hand.

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you could make a super cheap shift box and your trans will shift into all gears and you dont need the tcu in the car

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I just have other goals in mind and with me finally starting to work I have stuff to concentrate on both time and money wise.

I'm also tired of products not working as they should.

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Install error perhaps? Not to say you don't know what your doing, maybe you have a bad ground or an intermittent short that is killing them. I find it hard to believe you would have problems with multiple units.

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^Trust me I would love for that, but I have a steady 14V at idle, their tech says its good, lowest it got was mid 13s during a pull and they said still good.

Its weird, but a lot of people on their forums say to backdate the firmware so it logs slower and then you won't have it locking up because it trys to log to fast and the change is too fast which causes it to overload.

I mentioned this to their tech and he said they are dumb, of course the forums say the tech is dumb.

Either way I'm not happy about it, but I think I might try and backdate the firmware so i don't have to rip this bitch out again.

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you should bee able to setup how fast it logs If I remember right

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^You are right, but everyone says the fix is in the firmware. I'm surprised that they want me to pay for it to go back, I thought their RMA request would of been them sending me a box, so I def. want to mess with the software type stuff first before going thru that work .

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Did you try put the old firmware on your LC1? The newer firmware sucks IMO.

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Im sorry your tcu doesnt work. I dont know what happened. When I pulled your socket out for the second time some board traces pulled from the board. Regardless I took a picture of the board with the zif socket removed so I could check each pin with a meter, after the zif is soldered back in. Soldered the socket back in and used small wires to fix the traces that had been pulled. It looks like crap now but nothing else I could do. I checked each and every pin on both sides and found no problems. I also checked for shorts at each pin, found no problem.

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I'm looking at WB's to purchase, and was looking at the Innovate. I think after your experience here, I'm going to get a different one.

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I don't want to scare people away from it, I like the fact that you can calibrate it. I need to pull it out of my car and send it in, hopefully innovate will be able to shed some light or give me some kind of deal.

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I finally got a heater and pulled the wideband out, I will be sending it today, hopefully I get it back soon.

I really want this car done and I get waves of spring fever seeing other peoples cars and people asking me about my car, but to be honest I don't want to spend 1 penny on the thing. I think I might do a classic brownman and pull it apart to the point where it needs money because I know if i left it as is, I won't be happy driving it knowing it needs work and I probably shouldn't drive it until I do put some money into it.

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Spring is a long way away. You can ride with me this year, I think I owe you some rides. Just kidding it will work out. :crapper:

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^I like the edit, u remembered you have a wife now? lol

We will see what happens once I hear back from Innovate, if the unit is defective I'll be mad, if its a fault on my end and the unit it fine I'll be selling it and going with a NGK or other trusty unit.

They should have it early next week.

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Pics of the new heater?

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Get a AEM UEGO, they are stupid cheap now days

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^They have a weird offset in link where it reads a few points off and I don't like that you can't recalibrate it, so what do u do when you replace the sensor?

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thats too bad about your LC-1... I had great luck with mine... well till it melted friday.

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Ah didn't know that.

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I must say getting back outside and surfing the forums a bit has awaken the bug in me again, just a little.

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Innovate has had the wideband since the 10th, called them on thursday 16th and they said they hadn't gotten to it yet because of some trade show.

I told them to call me once they figure out the issue. If its a bad unit I might tell them to keep it and I'll try something else.

Not much else to update, I hate this cold even with my heater running it didn't seem that nice out.

I will be pulling out my alpine headunit this week, but thats about it.

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Called Innovate yesterday, they are having problems replicating my issue with the wideband but said they would get it out by the end of this week, I told them to call me first and they questioned why.

I explained that this is my 2nd wideband and that this damn issue screwed me over, so hopefully I get a call before they send me a shitty product again.
Research has shown that this is not uncommon, but as a highly popular wideband I can see them having some issues.

I pulled the deck out of the car and apart from that haven't touched it, I got to drive around another AT 1G that is similarly setup and it gave me the bug a little bit more, but also made me realize again the 16G might be a pain on a DD car for my taste. But I will get some miles on before I go buying anything or considering anything.

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Got a call from Innovate today and bad news is that they couldn't replicate the problem I was having.

Good news is I am getting a brand spanking new LC1, I honestly think I'm going to get rid of it and get something else probably another NGK AFX because as far as I know its the only other programmable WB on the market, so unless anyone else has suggestions that will be what I purchase sometime down the road.

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I guess I don't know that much about widebands, what is the benefit of a programmable wideband to say an AEM UEGO? What is it that you program?

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I should of not used the word programmable, but rather calibrate.

I don't see how a wideband can stay in calibration throughout its use and then how can it be calibrated when you replace a sensor?

With that said, my old NGK was usually dead nuts on with the WB at LSE, and if i remember correctly damn close with MAP's WB, I think most times I said F the WB at MAP because I was that confident with my NGK.

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Ah, I see. I know the AEM claims they do not need to be calibrated, cause they are self calibrated or something like that.

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The AEM widebands use the same old Bosch sensor, but they use a different connector with a resistor specific to each individual sensor to calibrate it. So they pretty much come pre calibrated from AEM versus you having to do a calibration yourself in the fresh air when you put in a new sensor. The NGK box is nice though because it is pretty much based on the AFM1000 unit and is easy to use higher quality wideband sensors than the cheap failure prone lead hating Bosch units.

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So i was getting delirious for a while there looking at 6262s and everything under the sun, but I'm gOing to keep this a 16g car rOck it a bit and maybe sell this summer once I enjoy it a bit.

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I think you should buy a 6262 and then sell it to me cheap when you deside to go back to a 16g.

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Those things r pretty good priced new i think $850ish.

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So......
I couldn't find this the other night when I wanted to update it, but here is a quick update w/o pics.

Since last time I have gotten rid of that POS Innovate LC1 wideband, pulled out my center diff. to have it welded and sent out both TCUs, one was ruined by a local and I am having ECMlink swap the socket and chip over to my TCU that was in teh car (yes I'm lucky).

I also have a filter and shift kit for the transmission, so with all these things I should be good to go as far as the transmission goes for this year.

I still need to fix axle seals in the trans, put in a used T-case (mine was getting noisy), fix oil pan leak and turbo return line leak, swap in 4-bolt rear end, and buy a wideband.

There is basically lots of little crap to do to get it running again and I'm currently on day 10 of a 18 day work streak so time isn't really there but I'm trying to make it happen.

After more research, my goal at MAPs proving grounds if I get a FMIC is to run a 12.0

My personal goal is to beat my 11.7 from 2008 and maybe if money is good beat my 120 trap from then too.

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You go girl! Keep moving!

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x2

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No word from Jack's yet, which is disappointing.
They received the diff. on tuesday from UPS, ECMlink however has received my TCU's swapped the socket and its already on its way back.

They have awesome customer service, i received an email notification every step of the way.

I'm hoping to be running by next friday night/saturday. IF anyone is bored or wants to work on a car or drink while I work on the car this weekend let me know.