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viridionplague 01-22-2010 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321032)


this graph made me lol, it only covers at most 65% n so it has 35% fudge factor

Matt D. 01-22-2010 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 321042)
this graph made me lol, it only covers at most 65% n so it has 35% fudge factor

Nice try. Strongly approve and strongly disapprove are only partial categories. Combined they equal 99% as shown here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

And if you care about their methodology:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...us/methodology

Matt D. 01-22-2010 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321041)
and heres a little chart for you.

I wasn't a fan of Bush either. *shrug*

A//// Guy 01-22-2010 03:12 PM

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I love the fact that healthcare can now no longer be socialized. :biggrin:

tpunx99GSX 01-22-2010 04:28 PM

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also look at the numbers. 1500 likely voters. thats like .01% of voters.

tpunx99GSX 01-22-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321044)
I wasn't a fan of Bush either. *shrug*

sorry we dont have a poll that is approval ratings for the "other" party.

Goat Blower 01-22-2010 05:50 PM

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This reminds me of a little joke.

> A guy goes into a bar, there's a robot bartender. The robot says,
> "What will you have?"*
> The guy says, "Martini." The robot brings back the best martini ever
> and says to the man, "What's
> your IQ?"
> The guy says, "168".
> The robot then proceeds to talk about physics, space exploration and
> medical technology.*
>
> The guy leaves, but he is curious, so he goes back into the bar. The
> robot bartender says, "What will you have?"
> The guy says, "Martini". Again, the robot makes a great martini, gives
> it to the man and says, "What's your IQ?"*
> The guy says, "100."
> The robot then starts to talk about NASCAR, Budweiser and John Deere
> tractors. The guy leaves, but finds it very interesting, so he thinks he
> will try it one more time.
>
> He goes back into the bar. The robot says, "What will you
> have?" The guy says, "Martini". And the robot brings him another great
> martini. The robot then says,
> "What's your IQ?"
> The guy says, "Uh, about 50."
> The robot leans in real close and says,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "So, you people still happy you voted for Obama?"*

Matt D. 01-22-2010 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321052)
also look at the numbers. 1500 likely voters. thats like .01% of voters.

They poll nearly ever day of the year. Clearly nothing will ever satisfy you if it ever says anything bad about your fearless leader, no matter what the source is or how the information is obtained.

MustGoFaster 01-22-2010 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 321063)
This reminds me of a little joke.

I can't help but laugh at this.
:draught2:

viridionplague 01-22-2010 10:25 PM

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321043)
Nice try. Strongly approve and strongly disapprove are only partial categories. Combined they equal 99% as shown here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._index_history

And if you care about their methodology:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...us/methodology


yea partial categories, when you add all 4, you still end up with 167%

if you look at approve and disapprove, its a 45/54 split in favor of disapprove. those equal 99% but are still only partial categories.

im just pointing out that the strongly approve/disapprove graph is extremely misleading.

i also wouldnt call a study that is based on an automated cold call machine, that targets people that are home during normal work hours, I.E. unemployed or retired people very accurate. god forbid you ever press the wrong button on a phone.

viridionplague 01-22-2010 10:28 PM

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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

for approval ratings based on many sources, rasmussen clearly has the lowest ratings

Matt D. 01-23-2010 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 321103)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

for approval ratings based on many sources, rasmussen clearly has the lowest ratings

Thanks for the info rather than simply turning your nose up at it. Regardless, the trend is obvious.

tpunx99GSX 01-23-2010 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 321085)
They poll nearly ever day of the year. Clearly nothing will ever satisfy you if it ever says anything bad about your fearless leader, no matter what the source is or how the information is obtained.

Same with the flip side buddy, if he were to ever do something right it wouldnt satasfy you. Its like you and a lot of the people in the strongly disagree, because hes the first black president hes supposed to be some hero and fix everything his first year. This is simply not achievable and he never promised such. What did you do that made 2009 such an epic year? Did you solve world hunger, Well shit then i disapprove of what you did last year. LOL
People had such high expectations from him because it was such an epic defeat and accomplishment, but its simply not achievable for ANY President to have to deal with as much as he did the first year of his presidency. Look at the poll i posted. Notice how when a tragedy struck it was met with a huge leap in approval, but then it shot down like a bullet. That to me strikes much harder than a gradual shift. It means that people were more or less "Hopefull" that the president would do a good job, but then they were quickly shot down when he sucked it up big time. Polls like these dont necessarily reflect the presidents job, but the overall countries mood at the time the poll is taken. (9/11 approval very high, because people were coming together as a nation with a hate against terrorism, but then went right down when they heard about the presidents actions right after... katrina same thing, saddams capture, same thing. etc) People are upset because they dont have jobs, the economy is in the shitter, they are sick with H1N1 and dont have health insurance so they cant go to a hospital. Then they turn to the fearless leader that decided to take on these super challenges.
Critics are people who cant DO, so they complain. So unless you can do something to fix this country, then please STFU, we dont need any more critics in this world.

Halon 01-23-2010 02:57 AM

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LOLZ at H1N1 reference.

Halon 01-23-2010 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321116)
So unless you can do something to fix this country, then please STFU, we dont need any more critics in this world.

Saving this quote for future use when you will need to be reminded of the same thing.

CVD 01-23-2010 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321116)
Same with the flip side buddy, if he were to ever do something right it wouldnt satasfy you.

It's foolish to ever be satisfied with the government. Especially in the state it's in now.


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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321116)
Critics are people who cant DO, so they complain. So unless you can do something to fix this country, then please STFU, we dont need any more critics in this world.

You're a decent guy, but a complete hypocrite and possibly the worst debater I've ever met.

mdost03 01-23-2010 06:29 AM

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 
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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321116)
People are upset because they dont have jobs, the economy is in the shitter, they are sick with H1N1 and dont have health insurance so they cant go to a hospital. Then they turn to the fearless leader that decided to take on these super challenges.

Quoted for the lulz.

96GST16g 01-23-2010 09:03 AM

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well .... correct me if i am wrong but obama kind of inhaireted this shit hole of the way the u.s. runs things and the economy. it isnt going to change in a month or two,

Matt D. 01-23-2010 12:00 PM

Re: Obama losing his own supporters...
 
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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 321116)
Critics are people who cant DO, so they complain. So unless you can do something to fix this country, then please STFU, we dont need any more critics in this world.

So because I'm critical of the president you feel it's right to question my accomplishments, where as you are a supporter of the president so you are cut and dry? I do what I have to do to make myself a better person in this world? What about you? You moved to California to run away from the things in Minnesota that were essentially holding you down, you have a child out of wedlock and now look, you're back in Minnesota. Color me surprised. You're just as much of a critic as I am, buddy.

CarPsyco84 01-23-2010 12:28 PM

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Heh, political arguments always bring out worst in people.


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