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Super Bleeder!! 01-01-2013 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Halon (Post 420370)
Get together and running good. Then sell and buy something that needs a lot less work to be fast.

plus juan

scheides 01-01-2013 11:59 AM

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Put about 80 miles on it yesterday, no issues other than I need to gap my plugs down a tad. Car fucking rips! Everything else just seems like a compromise to this car. For a lot of reasons I'm stuck with only one car so the whole summer/winter car is really not an option for me. Everything else is more expensive, only RWD, or doesn't have near the power potential.

cmspaz 01-01-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 420539)
Put about 80 miles on it yesterday, no issues other than I need to gap my plugs down a tad. Car fucking rips! Everything else just seems like a compromise to this car. For a lot of reasons I'm stuck with only one car so the whole summer/winter car is really not an option for me. Everything else is more expensive, only RWD, or doesn't have near the power potential.

James was saying last night that what surprised him the most wasn't how much power it has, but just how smooth it was. He said he'd never have considered a X but now it's for sure on his list of cars that he'd be willing to own based on sheer streetability with that kind of power.

You done good, sir.

scheides 01-08-2013 01:06 AM

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Compression, leakdown, and cam bucket measuring tonight. Remember Cyl#1 had the light broken spark plug damage to it:

Compression: 134 149 135 145

Leakdown: 30% 20% 20% 15% (cheap harbor freight tool--#1 def leaking past rings, but not horribly)

Head clearances (specs are intake .008 exhaust .012 both +/- 1):
Exhaust: (.009 | .009) (.010 | .011) (.010 | .011) (.011 | .012)
Intake: (.005 | .007) (.010 | .009) (.007 | .007) (.008 | .006)

After 120 miles no leaks, oil consumption is nil, and spark plug #1 looks ready for misfire (lots of carbon build-up probably from before head rebuild?). Happy-ish with compression, leakdown is not so bad but still makes me sad, and head clearances are not perfect but not horrible. I think next time I will request they end up more on the loose side but its fine for now.

Time for a little virtual dyno (if the snow melts) and moar boost, we'll see how she runs (snow or no snow) through the rest of the winter. She's not perfect, but fuck it--it's a DSM! :P

turbotalon1g 01-08-2013 09:17 AM

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Why is it a DSM?

It's not some old sports car that everyone beats the fuck out of and then is all surprised and cries when it breaks.

A//// Guy 01-08-2013 09:29 AM

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Scheides you are a beast! I couldnt handle this much work on a regular basis haha. Also whats wrong with rwd! :D Get a cheap old vw for DD and a fun veeight summer car.

Kracka 01-08-2013 09:32 AM

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Only 2 of 16 valves are [barely] within spec...is the machine shop going to take any responsibility for this?

JET 01-08-2013 09:51 AM

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Yeah, the exhaust is WAY out of spec.

scheides 01-08-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 420869)
Scheides you are a beast! I couldnt handle this much work on a regular basis haha. Also whats wrong with rwd! :D Get a cheap old vw for DD and a fun veeight summer car.

Only one car for me! Some day when I have a bigger house, less expenses, etc I'll consider it but not gonna happen where I live now. Leaving a car outside for a few nights is no biggie but over time stupid shit happens in the city.

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Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 420870)
Only 2 of 16 valves are [barely] within spec...is the machine shop going to take any responsibility for this?

I'll talk to MAP and see what they want to do, I'm not super impressed but with everything else going on in my life I'm just kinda done worrying about it.

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Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 420868)
Why is it a DSM?

It's not some old sports car that everyone beats the fuck out of and then is all surprised and cries when it breaks.

Tell that to murlo, trogdor or any other evoX owner (or me 2 years ago when the motor threw a ringland). :P

scheides 01-08-2013 09:59 AM

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fuck! Just noticed I had intake/exhaust values reversed in my post. Please review :) They're not *that* bad.

Kracka 01-08-2013 10:17 AM

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Hey, now 7 of 16 are within spec. We're almost halfway there :p

IMO, machine shop owes you a redo, or a refund. I assume of course they had everything needed to properly measure/machine to these specs though? It's too bad MAP didn't have their machining equipment up and operational, unlucky timing for your vacation and their move :(

goodhart 01-08-2013 10:25 AM

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Any reason you had wagamon do it and not gosh? just curious

Kracka 01-08-2013 10:31 AM

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I probably shouldn't speak for Scheides, but I think it was basically who ever could get it done ASAP same/next day.

scheides 01-08-2013 10:32 AM

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Yip. Gosh is da bomb, cards just fell another way this time.

simulatedwood 01-08-2013 12:33 PM

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The clearance numbers are a bit on the tight side, may burn some valves if you are not careful.

cmspaz 01-08-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 420869)
Scheides you are a beast! I couldnt handle this much work on a regular basis haha.

He really is, I kept trying to make it over to help with the head but never found time and he just hammered it out, I did make it over to help with the testing and checking last night though.

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 420875)
fuck! Just noticed I had intake/exhaust values reversed in my post. Please review :) They're not *that* bad.

Haha, you did the same thing I did last night. Silly back-asswards 4B11.

That plug had a ton of deposits on it, looked like ash to me, probably a symptom of your #1 oil consumption.

scheides 03-29-2013 03:41 PM

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So, quick update on the X. Been driving it daily since January and VDR shows 580whp dynojet at 29psi and 600whp at 30 so the head is healthy and the motor is strong, but if you recall last fall I found this:

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/IMG_3092.sized.jpg

and when I pulled the head off for the rebuild I found this:

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evox-...3407.sized.jpg

After getting the head rebuild and the car running again, the car has continued to burn more and more oil. Let'R buck has been my motto for a while but its gotten to 1 quart every 300 miles, even with driving nice. There's been several times that I'm getting ignition cutout from what I can only assume is excess oil in the cylinder and crank case pressure. I added a recirculation nipple on my intake for crank case vacuum but it made no difference.

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/AijEUVS.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/uUmvbyX.sized.jpg


Talked to MAP over the last few weeks and decided to just pull the trigger on getting this thing fixed: Ordered an 100% new OEM Shortblock that will keep the stock crank, receive MAP Ultimate duty rods, and wiseco standard bore pistons. This will basically be identical to my existing engine but no overbore and Wiseco's instead of JE's.

In May I plan on doing is yanking the longblock/trans and swapping everything over to the new shortblock, and drop it back in with fresh gaskets and a fresh clutch disc. What I'll have leftover will be an epic deal for someone: a sleevable core with a good crank, strong rods, and good pistons. One piston does have a small pit in it but I plan on disassembling the whole thing so the buyer knows exactly what they're getting into. A sleeved 2.0 setup is a solid $6k with core and if I can get $2k for mine someone will have one for more like $4k.

Side story, I'm tired of the Rotas. LOVE them, but when I put my OEM wheels on for winter I just really like how the car sits with them, very simple looking. KISS. Mine are beat to hell from the previous owner, so I found a clean set and will be rocking these this summer.

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/a03NHWQ.sized.jpg

http://www.scheides.com/albums/evoX/aw19FiZ.sized.jpg


My plan is to have the motor broken-in and issues all sorted by June and ready for kicking arse at Proving Grounds. No stupid wastegate or clutch issues this year, just going fast. As excited as I am for this, I am laid-up out in Montana after a 46-mph (thank you gps) ski crash and a trashed ACL in my left knee. Shifting or even leaving from a stop is not going to be my strong suit for a while, so...who knows what the eff will happen.

Word to your moms.

Murlo26 03-29-2013 03:49 PM

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Not seeing pics

scheides 03-29-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Murlo26 (Post 426839)
Not seeing pics

What pics? All of them or do you think there's magically pics of the shortblock I don't have yet in here? :)

So, fun fact. I literally just posted this and I got the word from MAP: motor is done! Eff, now to figure out how to get this thing in with a bum leg...

Murlo26 03-29-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 426840)
What pics? All of them or do you think there's magically pics of the shortblock I don't have yet in here? :)

So, fun fact. I literally just posted this and I got the word from MAP: motor is done! Eff, now to figure out how to get this thing in with a bum leg...

None that you reference in your post, none are showing up for me, maybe its just me.

Nice, glad your motor is done already!


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