Dear twack and albert lea mike and all primo members please post!
 

You two are something else. I never thought someone could go that low, and sell someone that messed up of a car. I know this world is full of fucked up people, but I just didnt think that those kind of people would be selling cars on this forum. There is no way in hell this car was a daily driver. All 4 tires have the insides worn out where the metal is showing. Bad thermastat, broken radiator, messed up tranny that you guys tried fixing by adding lucas, well it worked for 35 miles congrats! The list continues, there is no way in hell I had beat this this bad in 35 miles. So I'm going to have the people who have been working on it to state what they have found wrong and replaced with this car. What I have also found out to be funny, I went to www.fivezeroseven.com and by doing some stalking, twack and albert lea mike had this car at a 507 meet, had a "machanic" drive it that didn't know how to drive a stick to figure out the problems, ran over a curb, backed back over the curb into an srt-4, and then roasted the clutch where everyone could smell it. EVERYONE ON THAT FORUM WAS POSTIN ABOUT THIS! And then twack, your buddy you sold this car for said and I quote "haha its all good I just sold this peice of shit so its not my problem" and from what I've been hearing...your buddy has been selling plenty of bunk cars, where he fixes them up just enough to run and then sells them.... ALL PRIMO MEMBERS PLEASE LOOK

ALSO IF YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE LOOKING AT THIS...IT EVEN HAS PICTURES OF THIS JACKASS BACKING INTO AN SRT 4 http://v4.fivezeroseven.com/showthre...?t=9083&page=2

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:pc:

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I guess I don't really know what to think about this. Maybe you should have looked the car over first? I don't know much about the person you bought the car from so I can't give an opinion on him or the work he does, but we have sold a car to someone on here before who crashed it, broke the tranny and blew the motor within the first few weeks of owning it. We were also said to have given a POS car to the person even though it was used as a DD for the previous 6-8 months without any problems before selling it to him.

The items you have listed as being bad have nothing to do with the car being beaten on. For example, the wheels might have camber or alignment issues. The insides of the tires on my Mercedes were worn to the metal and it didn't have anything to do with me beating on it as I didn't. It wouldn't have been too tough for you to check the tires on the car before buying anyhow. All of the items listed could also be expected to be going out on a 18 year old car.

I am not sure I would be calling all of them out on about this car. The radiator and thermostat are cheap fixes and they might have been willing ot help with the time if anything.

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Looks you're flying off the handle left and right man. Just calm down, get your facts straight, and go ask for your money back, or a partial refund due to the (possibly?) ill-advised condition of the car when you bought it. This thread is kinda out of no-where, might wanna tell us the whole story :)

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haha just wait until the people who are ACTUALLY working on my car post about whats all wrong on this car
so far as

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The whole story is coming in a matter of minutes...

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Well what did you get the car for? Lots of DSMs are sold in less than ideal condition. Stuff breaks, its a matter of fact, especially if the car has not been maintained and well modded. This happens all too often. IMHO buyer beware and fix/love the one ya got ;)

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albertleamike also sold a car to someone around here a year or two ago, only for that person to find out that both rear brakes had the lines cut and the rubber lines pinched with vice grips, among other things. It saddens me that this clown has any amount of credibility left here in Minnesota.

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^wow really? Well fuk it then, go park it in is living room. :D

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Ok so I bought the car and checked everything out, and test drove it. Nothing seemed to be wrong visually. All I was told was that it needed a new temp sensor. After driving this car 30 miles home, I discovered that I need a new clutch (read the story on the link I posted about that one!) I need a new tranny, bolts where missing from the back side of the exhaust manifold causing a big boost leak the turbo had a bad shaft play and leaked a ton of oil. I had a bad starter. All the sensors in my car needed to be rewired (not a single one was in contact) needed a new radiator, ideler switch was gone, knock sensor was gone, broken studs into the exhaust manifold, missing several bolts off the tranny and transfer case. Ripped boots on both front side axles. Valve cover crack. Fuel injector leaking (needed new seals) More to come...

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Yes- he has also sold 3 other cars like that. Him and twack are scumbags. I paid 1800 for this car, and have now spent over 800+ just getting it to run normal before I can even mod it. I've asked for some money back ($400) and he refused. He talks shit online, but when I met him in person the day I bought it he was scared shitless of me. It will be in his best interest to never see me again unless he helps out with some of this money.

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Link to the discovery of the brakes - http://v4.fivezeroseven.com/showthread.php?t=2403
Pictures are dead, though.

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haha yup blame me. Not so fast. At the time i had some cash and i actually was thinking about buying this car. I never new mike before that. My jeep broke so i couldnt buy it. I told him a couple things to do to like paint the rims and that he should post it up here. He said something about how he couldnt register and asked if i could so i said sure knowing he had a kid on the way and that he needed money. so i posted it up for him. I was never at the Mankato meet because my car has no tranny, and i was like WTF happened when i saw the pics. Then I see he bought i bike and i even posted up like what the hell i thought you needed money for a kid. Kracka was right when he said there should be no middle men deals here, makes sense in this case. But dont come at me like ive tried to screw you over, i just relayed what i was told. Hell ive even tried helping you. Im not that guy ive never screwed anyone. Anyone on here who knows me can vouch for me.

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Looks like you over paid for that POS if you have had that many issues

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thanks rub it in a little more douche (slowbubblecar) and Twack, if you helped sell this for him don't you feel in some sort of way or fashion that you need to get a hold of this dumb fuck? This is absolutely bullshit...

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Twack has been around for quite a long time, he's trustworthy. Don't try to pin this unfortunate situation on him.

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i was going to buy it, it didnt happen (if you want i have every pm about the car if you want to see), i was just posting his ad. Thats why i posted that you need to contact him about everything. i didnt middle man your deal. ya i feel for ya that your deal sucks, but hes not a friends that i can tell him whats right to do. Im on your side i fell for the whole girlfriend pregnant story

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Do you have any contact info on this guy? An address would be awesome! Or a home phone number.

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Sounds like previous owners poor maintenence is coming back to bite you in the ass. It happens, not trying to be a douche. I made the mistake of buying a car out of impulse. Car jumped timing within 10miles of driving. Went through and checked things out, just to find shotty work done by a previous owner. Stuff like this happens, it sucks, but it does. You get what you pay for, sometimes you get a whole lot less. Sounds to me like twack isn't much to blame (this an outside view, not involved so it's just an assumption). He just sounds like a guy that pointed out a car for sale, and is getting a bad wrap because of some other guys bad work and shady dealings.

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other sites im on allow posting things you find, ebay, or for other people. This right here is why Mitsustyle dosnt allow it and other sites really shouldnt.

p.s. Dont call me a scumbag when you dont know the situation and you havnt sent me a single pm to get my story, instead you try and rip on me in a public forum. what the hell is that about

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about sums it up

and NT you got all the same contact info i do

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He just angry because of a short deal, and you just happened to be aasociated with mike at the time. So I wouldn't take it too personally.

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All I said is you overpaid. I think you could be called a douche for calling out people who haven't worked or even owned the car.

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The car was a mess. Nick Pretty much summed up what was wrong with the car.
Wires to sensors were broken
No idle stop switch
Tranny doesnt want to go into 1st
starter was bad
No gaskets on the oil return for the turbo
Missing metal timing covers
Knock sensor has no wires coming out of it
Vacuum lines capped off with screws
Rear wheel bearing is bad
Broken radiator neck
If I remember right the boost controller was hooked up wrong(not 100% sure I didnt fix it someone else did)
And one that I havent even told Nick about yet, Driver side ball joint needs replacing :/
Not to mension the tstat, and clutch Nick had already replaced.
Im sure there is more.
It sucks that you need to go through this. We are trying our best to help you out as much as possible.

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All right guys, quit the s@#$ talking, :madashell:
Sure the car has some issues, and Nick you may have over paid for it,
but blaming others who just pointed out a car is not advisable by me.

As you all may know the car has been up Primo getting the issues worked out,

sorry to post this but I think It may help.
there is more to the list but its late and I want to go to sleep, LOL

things I have found...
-In my opinion, the head was removed at some recent point and a few bolts either worked themselves loose or just weren't replaced,(thus missing all the lower intake mani bolts and had one broken exhaust stud,)
-Nick just had bad luck with the used starter he brought and needed a new one(starter engagement issue)
-The radiator was brown and brittle I advised to replace it, (once removed I noticed the top hose neck had cracked off, and was clamped past the break)
-the Injector seals were leaking on two injectors(replaced all injector seals)
-the knock sensor "existed" but the wire leads had been torn off,
-the Idle stop switch was not there, and the lead to it had broken off,(installed new spade connector)
-the coolant temp sensor wires had cracked/corroded/broken, re soldered new connectors and such,
-And the Vibration noises well thats the tires and the need of a rear wheel bearing,
-the transmission does not shift well into 1st gear, shifts fine in all others,
(I need to re check the cable adjustments in the AM though,)

I will post more if need be,

Hope all this "personal stuff" gets worked out
Jesse-
Primo Performance LLC
651-204-7040

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You noticed huh? :)

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...and people wonder why we have rules for classifieds usage. Maybe people will actually follow them from now on. I really wish I would have read that ad before the car was sold (I someone missed it).

Get in contact with the seller and see if he is willing to give you a partial refund, but don't be surprised if he doesn't. He sounds like a total scumbag and has no legal obligation to help you unless he knowingly mislead you about the condition of the car.

Moving to member feedback section.

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Also, enough with the name-calling. All that will do is just start more fights and arguments and get you no where productive.

Twack, I HIGHLY suggest you get your "friend" (you vouched for him after all) on this board to tell his side of the story and hopefully work out an agreement with our member who bought his car. Him saying he isn't able to register is total BS, anyone who signs up with a legit email address and info gets approved.

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Hey, you bought a 1g right? I have a used OEM radiator here off my old one that should still work good that you can just have if you need it since it looks like yours is done for. PM me if you want it. Sucks about your luck, I had a similar situation with my 1g, bought it and turned out turbo was on it's way out, headgasket was done for, clutch went out, brakes needed replacing badly, replaced many hoses on it, etc. It's all part of the game I suppose with these older cars.

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I know a couple people on fivezeroseven.com, I'll see if they will at least prevent him from selling anything else on there.

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At this point i dont doubt everything mike said was BS. Ive tried offering held to ntobler. He has yet to email me or pm me or address me directly other then this drama. Ive already been WTF to mike, i cant give ntobler any more info then he already has, and mike has already said he wont pay him.
Honestly this is rediculous. All i did was copy and paste the ad and say to email or call him directly. I didnt push the sale. I didnt tell any lies. i never vouched for the guy, just a kid i met. I said it seemed like a good deal because it looked like one and it was described as one. I am on other forums where people post up things they think are deals or craigslist ads or just things they find or hear of. I guess there its just more buyer beware, where as on here we get to listen to all the bitching and point fingers.

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Unfortunately, you posted the car for sale info so in effect you vouched for the car and the seller which is why this is falling back on you now. We have rules to protect you, but you chose to disregard them. This is not Craigslist, this is a personal forum where we try and look out for one-another. Hopefully the buyer will get in contact with you like you've offered so he can get some help in repairing his car and getting it in a running/driving/safe state. Also, if he does not have any of the seller's contact info, I urge you to help him get it.

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Again kracka im sorry for throwing it up. Like i said i didnt realize the difference in forum rules. ntobler has his phone, email, and can PM him. What more info can i give him. Again ive tried helping him but with his bad mouthing at this point ill be honest i dont really WANT to help him, not saying i wont, just saying the way he handled it is terrible

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Isn't the previous owner's info on the title itself? Like address and such?

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Sounds like someone doesn't know how to go used car shopping and someone doesn't know how to be an honest seller.


I can vouch for twack being an honest up front guy. NTobler went, looked, and bought the car, yet he has none of the guy's info? If I had made the mistake of buying this car I'd be in touch with the seller as soon as the car had all these problems.


It sounds to me like NTobler fucked up on buying a bad car from an even worse seller, and now just wants to bitch about it on a public forum. If you want something done, you best get in contact with this Mike guy.

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Agreed. Please post up after contacting the seller and let us know what comes of it.

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I think I gotta give a big +1 to almost everything that has been posted by everyone except Ntobbler and twack.

Ntobbler: we do not allow name calling/bashing here. We understand you're pissed off, but face the facts: you've brought this upon yourself by not having the car properly inspected before buying it. A lot of this stuff would probably be obvious to anyone that's owned a DSM before, or any other maintenance-heavy car for that matter. Let me be perfectly clear here: shape up or ship out. Calling guys that have been on this forum for years and years d-bags for stating the plainly obvious is just digging yourself a deeper hole. Everyone you offend here is someone that could and probably would have otherwise tried to help you out in any way possible now or in the future. I suggest you post up an apology and try to mend this relationship before its too late.

Twack: the no posting for others rule has been around literally forever. This is a fairly tight-knit community and doing what you did really brings you into the deal. If the guy sucks at the internet bad enough that he cannot register, then there's a reason he doesn't need to be here. If he's selling junk cars to people, that further backs it up. This community is here for an ever-expanding group of friends. Yea not everyone gets along but if in general we all know and respect that. Please do whatever you can to help make this right.

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thanks schiedes blame me yup thats the way to do it. Ive already done all i can ive extended my hand to help him he has not excepted it or asked me anything about anything except to call me out. ive been more then willing to help and all he wants to do is drag my name in the mud. Grow up guys all i can do in the situation is try emailing or calling mike. Ive already called him out for lieing to me and told him it was bullshit. other then that i cant go to his house grab the money and run. what i can do is say hey im here to help in any way i can and ive done that but no one sees that.

I already stated i didnt know the rule about posting for others i think we can look back though and see ive been more then reputable. ive done all i can and im still here to try and help. this is crap im getting more flak then mike about this. hell ntobler why dont you post your problems on the 507 forum where mike actually is rather then here

You say this is a tight nit comunity but where, is that is it super selective or what. I have been an active an contributing member here with zero issues for over 3 years. Im not angry but im frustrated. I was going to buy a car but had to spend the money, i got a sob story and ask for help. YES i posted it unaware of the rule, but ive done all i can to rectafy what i can and im still taking heat. I have a very good reputation and trying to maintain that. i apologize to all parties involved and doing what i can, dont i get some respect for that.

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twack, relax man! If anyone, I trust you. It's pretty obvious you've done what you can to try and help and the OP is looking for someplace to vent. If you've extended an offer to help him as you say, then that indeed is about all you can do, unless you know where the guy lives and wanna go put the smack down ;)

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i have known twack for a while, and I know he wouldn't do something like this knowingly! He is a good guy, and i can assure you, mike is the guy you wanna go after...not twack. like twack said, post about this on 507 where mike is..