A DSMer's rant.
 

As some of you may know, I've been wanting to sell my DSM. Why? Well, that is a question I'm asking myself. If I did sell it, I'd just end up buying yet another DSM. And if that happens, the first thing I will do is get a Shep "Stage 3" tranny, and do up all the other drivetrain things.
The thing is, when I think about doing all of that... I'll still have a stock, but more reliable car. I think about... what if I just took... a tiny loan... and did all that to my current car? That is: the Shep stage 3, some dyno tuning time, and some suspension. I'd probably not want to sell it. So what the hell am I thinking? Any thoughts? And I know pretty much modding cars is a horrible investment; investment is the WORST word to use. I'm just in stupid situation. I'm not happy with my car because its not as nice as I want it. Call me retarded, but I'd almost be happier with a flawless mostly stock DSM, as compared to the one I have now. That'd be a car I'd like to keep for maybe my lifetime (scary I know), but then I could mod it "just right" as money became available. I don't know, I'm rambling but I don't know what to do! Part of me just wants to get out of DSMs while I can...

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Stop your bitching and be happy with what you have!!

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yea stop your bitchin...your wants are far more then your needs...do one thing at time and with acouple of years it will turn out alright...no one can get this shit over night...maybe the rich kid but be proud of what you have gotten so far...heck...there are some dsmers with na and wished they had boost..gl...whatever you decide ...

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...dude, you got like...a...a...20g? i mean..shit. most people never see something that big..myself included!

-A. Swift

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I say keep bitch. Put every option you can think of out there and go for whichever one will put a smaile on your face. I mean seriously some people on here want to have the perfect 1G or 2G right now. They buy used parts over and over, break a few things, sell it, get another on, rinse and repeat. I don't even own a DSM anymore and my next ride will be a 3S. But I know for a fact I will have a DSM again. I love the cars, but I know you just can't rely on the standard practice's these days of junk yard hunting for replacement parts and buying a parts car in case something on your car breaks.

When something breaks, buy new or re-man parts. Do you think gusy like Shep put anything but trusted new parts on their cars? Not a chance. And no, you won't have the resources to do everything someone like Shep or even a average shop owner might do. Well the fact is you do have every opportunity to put the right parts in a car the right time. And if you drive it right, care for it right, it will last. When a tie rod goes out don't reach for the neared junk yard replacement. Get new and get another 75k miles out of it, instead of 5k miles.

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yeah, just take it slow, do the improvements as you can, and in a couple years you will have that car that you want to keep forever. Then you can paint it, and do all that other stuff that gets put on the back burner.

I am kind of in the same boat with my honda. I am modding it, but at the same time, I am tying up all the loose ends of the stuff that I have been meaning to do for the last couple summers. The car is already way better than it was last summer, and I just got back into town last week, so imagine what you could do with a couple years...

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You know what I wish? I wish that you would only use one period after a sentence. And while your at it there is this is this really cool button that you can hit with your pinky fingers called a fucking shift key, use it.

Swifty the same above applies to you as well. You should know better.

This isn't a teenage chat room.

What the hell is this thread about anyway. Everybody hates their DSM 80% of the time. Everytime you break something or think of modding it more, just have someone kick you right in the nuts. Same result will follow for each.

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Keep it, tune it, and then move on to some other part of the car to beef up. You have a nice motor/turbo setup, now save for a while and trick out the suspension, then save up for the tranny, etc. If it makes you feel better, do a bit of each at a time. Start off with a rear swaybar for that thing, they're less than $200 and you'll LOVE what it does to the car! Get a cheap strut-tower bar too, if you do not have one already.

Just one thing at a time, that's the only way to really get to the car you *really* want. Selling it & getting a new one is usually only putting off upgrading what you already have, and typically a grass-is-greener scenario.

I ultimatly sold my 1G because of a $500 issue. I sold it when I bought my 2G, which not only cost more, but I ended up dumping probably $2500 into over the first 30 days I owned the damn thing (rewiring this and that, FMIC+TialBOV install on day 4 of ownership, s-afc, injectors, etc). Month #2 I ended up yanking the motor/tranny for a clutch job, re-did the timing belt job, new water pump, balance shaft delete, etc...WHY didn't I just keep my 1G?!!?!?! I love my 2G, but sometimes I *really* wish I would have just fixed the issues with my 1G and kept it longer!

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craig, it was a drawn out statement. If you heard me actually say it, you'd get why the periods. They represent pauses.

-A. Swift

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I have had the same DSM, since day one of being a DSMer. I have had the urge to sell and switch car manufactures more than once, but I’m glad that I have my 1G. I do plenty of preventive maintenance and every summer it has been a reliable “daily” driver. Not to say that it doesn’t brake, but anything I drive, will brake because I will beat on it sometimes. But for the cost of the car and what it is, I still have fun and still can beat up on other performance cars. I know I don’t have the fastest car in the DSM community, but I like to balance reliability with power. And for a DSM I think I have done O.K.
So I say keep the car, make it fast but keep it reliable, YES it is possible for a DSM to be reliable. I think we all know that. DSMs break because they are pushed to hard and because most are getting old, so put a lot of new parts in them and don’t drive it like you stole it when you are just going to the store for milk.

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The only time I have been pissed off at my DSM is when I spent like 4 hours trying to get those 4 fucking bolts off of the intake manifold "stay" or whatever the hell it is. I wanted to burn that fucking car, I tell you what. I'd just keep it. Clean DSMs are getting hard (and expensive) to find, I'd just chill out with the one you've got.

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If you had troubles with those bolts, gl on the rest of the car.

Keep the car kevin. Just park it for a while and pimp a honduh or something! That car is too nice to let someone else own.

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they're called ellipses, and they don't represent pauses. its just another horrible grammar plague sweeping the internet.

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At least you have a running DSM. That's something I've never had!

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Well, I've got to figure one more thing out, and depending on that I will base my decision to sell, or continue modding.

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I love English class when it comes to business shit grammar! Damn you could chill for a bit on the grammar rule. This is a sight we all come together and enjoy. If he was writing a dam review I could see the importance of grammar. Shit, who cares your the mod and you make the rules.

Oh keep working on the DSM that you have now. Just look back at all the work you have done to it and imagine starting over. Did I mention I hate DSM's. I meant Honda's.

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eh man just stay with it. My first DSM was ugly and had a bad engine and tranny. Thats why I sold it. It would have cost me alot more money to fix that one instead of buying the one I have now.

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My first DSM was a really nice black 92 GSX with 63k. Haha I've been spoiled with nice ones. I'd like to find an even nicer one...

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Just be done with it and sell it for some real power and and buy a Civic with a Vtec....


j/k, fix it as we all know you Love that car!


Clean 1G's Rule!

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Thats what mine is, slow and reliable. Why dont u just get a basic rebuild? You could send in your GVR4 tranny as a core and get shop credit.

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I'd rather just "do it right," and get a Shep tranny. And I might rebuild the GVR4 tranny myself.

Also, I don't want to sell my car because my 3rd gear grinds, I just don't really want it anymore.

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I really like your car, i think you should keep it and get it working properly, and would you really need a loan to fix all your problems? the tranny maybe but not a dyno tune. Your going to have the car for a while anyways because your asking price is about the same for my 2000 Eclipse GT. So lets say you get your asking price, what are you going to buy?

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I've been building my car since Sept of 1999. Like Allan Said only buy new, unless it's a part from someone you know and trust. may take longer to save but it's worth the less stress in the long run.

I've simply learned that if it's a daily driver stay away from the race tracks. Unless you have some other means of transportation and are willing to deal with the problems/headaches of breakage. Higher HP dsm's simply don't last long at the tracks. Typically the tranny's are the weakest area. they can take just about any street abuse you can through at it but the effects of launching at the tracks and full out 4 gear runs really take it's toll on the car.

I raced 2 years with my FWD went through 6 tranny's in 7 months, I then stopped going to the tracks for 2 years and didn't go through a single tranny in all that time. Even though you could find me out of the streets all the time. As well as driving it to work and back.

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I never buy used parts, thats never been an issue.

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Well minus the used tranny I bought ;) If I keep this, yes I'll get a loan for : Shep tranny, Eprom, magnus, cams, and a tune.

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Ultimately what are your goals with the car, as well as what is your life style? meaning is this your daily driver, is this your secondary car soi you can mod it with out worries, etc?

Once you know that then you know which way to go. Anyrate hope all goes well which ever way you go.

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I'd consider being done with DSMs. I'm interested in getting our GTO going.

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I want a respectable street car. I drive it daily, unless it breaks then I drive another car. As the mods increase, I'd probably drive it less. Ultimately I'd be happy with a 2.4L and a GT35R or equivilent. I don't have a specific power goal, I don't care about being the fastest, but I just want a decent, "done right", 1G.

And as others have said, I should just get out and be done asap.

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Haha, I know of someone selling a 1992 Honda Civic CX hatchback with 90k for $1600. Perfect car for me... that mean 70hp engine getting me 40+ mpg.

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I have been troubleshooting my phantom knock for who knows how long now, and the damn thing still has it. This single problem has now completely ruined my interest in DSM's.

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get ouf dsm's youll miss em but never regret t

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i dunno...kevin. i think i might be stuck in it too...

-A. Swift