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Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-17-2006 07:17 PM

Linoln LS.. Opinions?
 
Reality has struck and when I turn 21( 7 months) I will be buying a newer, different style of vehicle. My car insurance will dramatically decrease. I've had nothing but DSM's. I think it's time to get into something a little less sporty and a little more practical and comfortable. I do like my performance though. So a Lincoln LS is a very interesting idea to me. 2000-2002 seem like the best bang for my buck. 03 has more power and is overall nicer, I just don't have 25K+ to get one. You can typically find a real low mile 2001 LS for under 20k. I just want to hear what people think / know about this car. I've read alot of reviews and information but there is nothing better than first hand opinions! If you've owned one PLEASE chime in here. If you haven't but have something else to say, feel free! I am pretty anti-Ford so this is definitly going out on a limb!

This is the site I've been reading on.
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/ov...l=LS&trimid=-1

s1ngletracker 08-17-2006 07:19 PM

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ask Jet. He has one.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-17-2006 07:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker
ask Jet. He has one.

I'm sure he would see the thread sometime. I don't wanna bother him VIA PM. He seems to have good taste in cars so that's a good thing!

Matt D. 08-17-2006 10:06 PM

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I'm tempted to pick up an LS in the future as well. I've looked them over and talked a bit with JET, and if what you're looking for is that type of car, you can't beat the LS. There isn't much else out there that can come compare to the used ones, and they're a ton cheaper than other cars in its class.

JET 08-17-2006 10:17 PM

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I have a 2001 Lincoln LS. Sport edition with the V8. I really like it for a daily driver. Very comfortable, but still on the sporty side. The V8 loves to rev (little 3.9l) and has pretty good power. Gas mileage isn't great, but other than that I love it. I got mine in January for $10k with 76k miles on it (ebay steal).

The car is really a jaguar, so don't worry about it being a Ford. It has more gadgets than I have seen on a car. Probably the coolest thing is if you hold the unlock button on the key fob it will roll down the windows on the car to cool it off. I roll them down before leaving my desk and the car is near ambient when I get out to it. Auto on lights, auto on windshield wipers (it senses the rain!), 2 person memory seats, heated seats, etc.

turboDSM 08-17-2006 10:41 PM

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but you cant get the V8 with the manual.just the V6 has the manual

98gstaherns 08-17-2006 10:50 PM

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My borther has a 04 v6 and that thing is pimpin! lol Nice solid ride smooth! Looks hot too in like black or somthing!

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-18-2006 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by turboDSM
but you cant get the V8 with the manual.just the V6 has the manual

It's a automatic w/ manual option. Slap stick style. There is no clutch though, you're right about that.

JET 08-18-2006 09:15 AM

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Yeah, the manual shifting is pretty damn good too. You put it in a gear and it stays there. Not like some of them that will still shift 500 rpm before redline.

Mine is a black one. The sport edition doesn't have the chrome on the bumpers, so you can see the difference.

Steeltwo 08-18-2006 11:09 AM

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the only thing I heard about them was told to stay away from was the first year v8's.

apparently the trannys were hit and miss.

JET 08-18-2006 12:26 PM

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The first year of the more powerful engine was the tranny issue, so don't get a 2003. I chose the 2001 because the CD changer in the 2000 was in the trunk or the glove box (which takes up most of it). The 2001 you get a 6 disk in dash changer, which is sweet.

Shane55113 08-18-2006 01:37 PM

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I like the car, my gf's brother has one its a really smooth ride, perfect dd car.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-18-2006 08:01 PM

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I just test drove a 2002 LS V8. It had just the basic tranny, not the slap shift style. She moved pretty decent I guess. I'm used to DSM's so it seemed a bit slow but it responded well and didn't hesitate to down shift. The car is fucking AMAZING to just roll in though. Very comfortable and convenient. This one was 43k miles @ $16,500. Pretty steep compaired to other things I've seen online but it was immaculate, not one ding on it. It was beige =/ I prefer silver or black. Even though black is a nightmare to keep clean. It was all and all what I expected.

DSM1G 08-18-2006 08:10 PM

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Why get the LS when you can get the LSE?

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-18-2006 09:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DSM1G
Why get the LS when you can get the LSE?

I don't even know the difference. I haven't seen one listed anywhere I've looked yet.

JET 08-18-2006 11:11 PM

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LSE is just a body kit on it. Big friggin' deal, it's a lincoln!

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-19-2006 02:08 AM

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eh I like how they look w/out the extra body effects. Thanks for the advice but I'll stick with a regular LS :P

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-19-2006 11:56 PM

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MNSC offered their opinions about cars that are similar to the LS. This is what I had to say about that. Feel free to drop more cars to look into. Even though I'm single track minded right now, I do know that there is other cars out there.

-Jag's cost too much to fix
-Lexus IS300 and the infinity are too much to insure ( I do really like the Lexus IS300, I've driven one and it was very nice!)
-I'm not a fan of the 300M. I have driven one and it was quick and comfortable but there was just something I didn't like about it. I certainly don't dig the resemblance of a newer intrepid.
-Mercedies C240 is out of my price range and the repairs / insurance would not be good. HOWEVER, I think I do like that car a little better than a Lincoln LS.
-I'd really love to get any newer BMW but expensive to fix and probably expensive to insure.
-I have never been in an Audi or VW that i felt comfortable in. Those cars didn't think of me when making them I'm long.. leg's do NOT fit well. Head is close to roof etc. I hate the interior.
-CTS = out of my price range. They do not have any within 50 miles of me that cost 15k or less.

Really, in the end.. all of these cars listed are sporty / luxurious. They are all in all nice cars and very common options. The one difference is, Lincoln is Lincoln and clearly the LS does not hold it's value quite like the imports do. Usually people see this as a bad thing but it makes things easier for me in my current situation. I found one I really like but it MIGHT be a little too expensive since I'm getting a full extended bumper to bumper warantee. I'm undecided.

turboDSM 08-20-2006 12:53 AM

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I think for you the LS is the best bang for your buck!!
go for it

BuildADSM 08-20-2006 01:00 PM

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Yeah I love the LS's. I tried really hard to talk my dad into one but he found a good deal on a different car.
On of my brother's friends has one for his DD and he threw N20 on it and is running 13's (He may have a few other things too but not much)

Goat Blower 08-20-2006 03:16 PM

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If you can get a really good deal like Jet, the LS might not be bad. But comparably in that price range, it'd be far from my first choice.

Test out a Volvo S60 T5 AWD, that would be my first choice hands down.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-20-2006 03:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower
If you can get a really good deal like Jet, the LS might not be bad. But comparably in that price range, it'd be far from my first choice.

Test out a Volvo S60 T5 AWD, that would be my first choice hands down.

It does seem like a decent car. I Found one for less than 15k w/ 50k miles on it. Not a bad deal but I don't know anything about volvo ;) Are they expensive to fix? I'm sure getting an AWD turbo again but newer.. insurance would love me.

Matt D. 08-20-2006 04:06 PM

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Volvo is a subsidiary of Ford. ;)

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-20-2006 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D.
Volvo is a subsidiary of Ford. ;)

So they are about as IFFY as a lincoln LS being ford and all? I have never been a ford fan.

I found 2 more possible cars. One is not hard to find, the other is.

newer model pontiac bonneville super charged or w/e. Haven't looked into it yet.

2nd is a 2003 honda Accord. The difference between this beast and other hondas is this one is a 3.0 iVtech 6 speed manual coupe. That model is very hard to find for the price im looking for. But it is rated at 25/30 MPG and has 240 hp which is not bad at all ;)

Jakey 08-20-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
newer model pontiac bonneville super charged or w/e. Haven't looked into it yet.

SSEi

I get at least 29mpg on the highway with my '01 GTP and have done as well as 34mpg. My car is 100% stock so I'd be curious to see what kind of milage CRAIG gets with his modified GTP.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-20-2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakey
SSEi

I get at least 29mpg on the highway with my '01 GTP and have done as well as 34mpg. My car is 100% stock so I'd be curious to see what kind of milage CRAIG gets with his modified GTP.

SSEi bonneville is the same shit as a grand prix, different chassis mostly right?

Jakey 08-20-2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
SSEi bonneville is the same shit as a grand prix, different chassis mostly right?

That I do not know. I know that there are common parts on the supercharged Regal GS as well.

JET 08-20-2006 11:17 PM

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The LS is in a whole different class than a GTP or bonneville. They are good cars, just very different. My girlfriend has a 99 GTP and she won't even drive it anymore since driving the Lincoln.

Matt D. 08-20-2006 11:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET
The LS is in a whole different class than a GTP or bonneville. They are good cars, just very different. My girlfriend has a 99 GTP and she won't even drive it anymore since driving the Lincoln.

I agree. I would take an LS over a Bonneville/Grand Prix/Regal without question.

Kracka 08-20-2006 11:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
2nd is a 2003 honda Accord. The difference between this beast and other hondas is this one is a 3.0 iVtech 6 speed manual coupe. That model is very hard to find for the price im looking for. But it is rated at 25/30 MPG and has 240 hp which is not bad at all ;)

iVTEC is the proper spelling ;)

My friend has a '06 V6 6-speed and its a really nice car, decently quick, comfortable, and great interior layout/design. I'm not sure how it compares to the '03, but Accords always seem to be class-leading. Volvo makes some pretty good cars, so like Steve said, it would be worth a look.

Kracka 08-20-2006 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D.
I agree. I would take an LS over a Bonneville/Grand Prix/Regal without question.

If those four were the only choices I'd take the LS too, but I'd take either the Accord or Volvo over the LS.

Matt D. 08-21-2006 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by S2kracka
but I'd take either the Accord or Volvo over the LS.

The Accord just seems bland to me, but I'd be interested in the Volvo, as well as the Audi equivelant.

TheBlizzard 08-21-2006 01:38 AM

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With the 18" rims and 245/45/18 tires I was getting about 21mpg on average. With the stock rims I have gotten 34mpg on the highway at 65mph and average about 28mpg with the stock rims.

The mods I have done do not hurt gas mileage unless you are boosting it, the exhaust and the intake probably help out a bit. But again thats if you are being nice to it. Either way it gets good mileage for being a huge boat.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-21-2006 02:35 AM

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Yes I realize that the pontiacs are not up to "par" with the LS. However if I can't find one for a respectable price / what I'm looking for through a dealer, I may have to resort to something else. I want to go through a dealer to get a warrantee extended to as close to 100k miles as possible because all of my spair cash will be going towards the new car payment. I don't want to hastle with repairs out of my wallet.

Kracka 08-21-2006 08:25 AM

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You can buy an extended warranty no matter where you get your car from. Have you talked to Steve? He may be able to find what you are looking for in your price range.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-21-2006 10:20 AM

Re: Linoln LS.. Opinions?
 
Well say I bought my LS from Ford. They would not only get my car fixed for free, but they would give me a loaner car at no cost. IDK I guess I've never sat down with an unbiased person and figured out everything.

Kracka 08-21-2006 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pimpin Dsmstyle
Well say I bought my LS from Ford. They would not only get my car fixed for free, but they would give me a loaner car at no cost. IDK I guess I've never sat down with an unbiased person and figured out everything.

There are no differences between the extended warranties you buy from Ford or any other aftermarket company (non brand name ones are about 1/2 the price and a lot of times offer better coverage). You can still get the car fixed at the dealership (or any other shop) so you'll still get a loaner car. Keep in mind though, these extended warranties are NOT the same thing as a factory warranty with no laws protecting the consumer and any tiny little mod can and probably will void them entirely. If you can't afford to set aside money for repairs in the future while also making car payments then maybe you should look at something a little more in your price-range. Also, don't forget to check out insurance rates.

Pimpin Dsmstyle 08-21-2006 01:26 PM

Re: Linoln LS.. Opinions?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S2kracka
There are no differences between the extended warranties you buy from Ford or any other aftermarket company (non brand name ones are about 1/2 the price and a lot of times offer better coverage). You can still get the car fixed at the dealership (or any other shop) so you'll still get a loaner car. Keep in mind though, these extended warranties are NOT the same thing as a factory warranty with no laws protecting the consumer and any tiny little mod can and probably will void them entirely. If you can't afford to set aside money for repairs in the future while also making car payments then maybe you should look at something a little more in your price-range. Also, don't forget to check out insurance rates.

I could probably afford to fix the car if I set aside money for the specific purpose but I'd rather not. That's why I want a warantee. I don't plan to mod this car at all. It's a lincoln for christ sakes ;) Insurance is not a problem. This is "daddies car" :) 100 / month give or take a few bucks for full coverage.

Goat Blower 08-21-2006 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D.
Volvo is a subsidiary of Ford. ;)

And Lincoln isn't? Show me a Ford part on an S60. Or better yet, drive the two back to back, you'll see what I mean. Just because they own Volvo doesn't mean Volvos are now Fords.

A//// Guy 08-21-2006 02:18 PM

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Yea ford uses volvos parts.. not the other way around. S60 FTW, it is a little smaller than an LS though.


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