How to make a Quick 14B Car?
 

Anyone wanna just quick slap a list of some stuff I'd need to maybe run low 13's on a 14B (Just things to add power). Could I get to that goal with..., 3" exhaust, 1G ported cast exhaust parts, stock sidemount, race gas, boost controller, fuel pump?

Oh yeah It's a 92 awd 5 spd 6/4LSD w/ buschur 3"dp,tp,cb, shep stage 3, 2600w/6puck

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+SAFC, dyno time, C16, seat time.

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You could hit a low 13 with that no problem. I ran a 13.6 with boost controller, pump gas, 2.5" hacked cat-back and ghetto UICP. Full weight on snow tires.

SAFC and UICP should get you well into the 12's.

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Just make sure you have the fuel to backup the boost

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I ran 12.99 @ 103 on my old AWD with an open downpipe, UICP, and some c16.

If you had safc 550's and a pump you could run that or better and not worry about blowing up.

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Yea, go for it! Exhaust, fuel pump, 550's, and an afc. 2G mas for good measure, crank up the boost to about 25, drop the tire pressure in the front to about 17psi, and maybe about 13-15psi in the rear, and then get some good clean launches. Shit, you could run high 12's on that setup if you can drive well enough!

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My girlfriend wents high 12s many times and 108mph with the 14B, air filter, 2.5" turboback exhaust, mbc, fuel pump, a homemade upper i/c pipe that didn't seem to help and race gas. Cher went something like 12.6 with similar basic mods. Someone else on here went low 12s with the 14B.

A 2G MAS, 550s, SAFC, FMIC, etc would be nice for tuning it.

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Are you guys serious? Wow, if this is true then maybe i should think about keeping my B16G with pretty much the above mods, plus dsmlink, but minus the FMIC/pipes (i am stock IC system right now).
Sleepy good to hear that you are getting back in the game!!

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13.4@98mph.
1.70x 60' 3bolt FTW!! :).
Mods:
s-afc, 3" 02 back exhaust, 2g mas in a 1g airbox setup, homebrewed intake pipe, aeromotive fpr, act 2600, walbro 255hp. Stock injectors, motor, etc... This was back in 2003?
Another mod, 90psi compression in cylinder #1, 135+ on the other 3.
15psi, 92 octane. Full weight.


Once I broke the 3 bolt the next pass at the track, I tossed in a 4 bolt and turned up the boost to 18psi, much faster.
I think nash then took this car put on his fmic, 660's, heads w/cams and 20g and went 11.6?

It really isn't that hard to get a strong 14b car into the low 13's, high 12's.

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Kevin, make it light. I guarantee if a 14b on race gas/stock motor was put into my white car it would go high 11s easy at about 113-114 no problem.

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Alright, so I need to at least get a pump (duh). I'll probably buy a FMIC, but I need to wait until I get my bill from Shep haha.

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Dang kevin, my car is pretty much crap then! I'll probably drop by this weekend if your not doing anything!

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Can't you get a MAF-T setup to do something similar to what a s-afc does?

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I had similar mods, fuel pump for sure, and ran a bunch of 13.4 passes full weight and full exaust.

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I have a MAFT actually, and a 91 EPROM. just get some injectors, and maybe get a RACE GAS chip burnt? And then just run 15ish psi on pump? Eh maybe I should just get DSMLink. Can someone tell me if you can save different "maps" on DSMLink?

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I'm thinking boost creep is gonna be EL GAY, I'm kinda in the market for an external gate o2 housing, but I can't find any.

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Just get the turbo ported. Much easier and cheaper.

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Or bolt on a o2 housing, problem solved.

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i have a mitsu flanged tubular 02 housing with a tial 40mm on it. interested? :)

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Yes :)

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Hey what would you use to port it, carbide bits, grinding stones, sanding rolls? Could you use Carbide bits with a dremel? Or would something like that be better suited to an air-powered grinder?

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After just finishing a porting job myself, GET A DAMN CARBIDE BIT!!!! I did a stock 1g mani and wish i hadn't been cheap. I got the carbide bit on the last night of porting. Cut the time in half, easy. Use the carbide to take out larger pieces of the metal and get the areas ground down, then use a stone to smoth them out. Follow up with some sand paper to get it nice and smooth and your all set.

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Where did you get your bit(s), and how much? I know carbide isnt cheap lol.

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I know you can get a set of 3 of them from Sears for about $30 bucks, i opted out and got a single bit for $6 due to the lack of ever needing htem again, and being broke.

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Harbor Freight or similar is the best place to get them. Sears does have them but they arent cheap and they are the same quality.

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I have a 3" gm maf, and maft. I'm still worried about fuel cut. What are my options? get DSMLink and STFU? A lot of people have been suggesting I go with a 2G MAF. I know some people say the MAFT is a POS, and would rather have a 2G mas. What are your opinions on the 2G MAF vs 3" GM/MAFt?

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AEM EMS

-A. Swift

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i've never hit fuel cut with the maft. isnt one of the switches in the control box a fuel cut toggle? its been awhile since i opened it up.

a 2g maf is fine as long as your power goals are in the low-mid 400s.

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Funny you say that.

Do you feel right tuning and setting AEM up all on your own? Or, since you know people that can help you, you feel right recommending it?

Dont get me wrong, AEM is obvioulsy the way to go if you have either A. Have the knowledge to do it, or B. Have the money to make it happen with the help of someone like Shane or Josh or whoever that has worked with it extensively(sp?)

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Lol swifty, I know AEM is bomb shit, but I'm not gonna need that for awhile, if ever. Look at Vassil, he ran 10's with DSMLink, so I definately don't see it as a limiting factor. And plus, I'd rather have DSMlink because it's way more user friendly, and I could actually tune it myself, and learn a lot in the process.

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DSMLink is almost always the best choice.

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Yeah, DSMLink is the way to go.

Only thing that really pisses me off about it is you cant use a MAP sensor with it. Gay Gay Gay.

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You can use a MAP sensor with DSMLink. It has a speed density mode that ignores the MAF and uses a VE table.

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13.4 @103 here. Not much done.

Stock non eprom ecu
Stock injectors
Unported 14b

3" turbo back, cat less
Unported 2g o2 housing
3" intake pipe
Dejon Tool UICP
K&N filter.
Walbro 190
EVOIII Manifold
Ebay boost controller
ACT 2600 w/ street disk.
Race gas @19psi.

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Cool! I'm expecting a phone call from Shep any day now... And then I can work on making my car faster. List of my mods so far:
2g exhaust manifold
Shepherd Racing Stage 3 transmission rebuild
ACT 2600lb clutch with sprung 6 puck ceramic disk
ACT XACT flywheel
Ksport coilovers - 36way adj, full threaded body, front camber plates
Ingalls Engineering Rear adjustable rear control arms
Prothane motor mounts
Goodridge SS brake lines
Suspension Techniques front and rear sway bars
Symbroski Shifter bushings
Shifter bearings
OEM Heavy leather shift knob
Short throw Shifter
Buschur Racing 3" SS downpipe, testpipe, catback
No A/C
No Emissions
Buschur Racing cold air intake w/ K&N cone filter
MAF Translator v2.02
3" GM MAF
91 EPROM ECU
ARP Headstuds
Copper sprayed OEM headgasket
Elite Autosports manual boost controller
Tons of preventive maintenance stuff!

My car has been on stands since after the cookout (that same day lol). It was 100% stock then. I'd still like to get an FMIC, a fuel pump, and port/ceramic coat all the cast iron parts.

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Ya I got some suspension work done too. As well as a lot of preventive maintence. Cause I didn't know if the previous owner did them or not, so just got them done anyways when I bought the car.:D

Setup looks solid.

Is this your red car? Or did you get another one. I remember you leaving me a message in cardomain, awhile back, saying how you really loved my car cause it was black, or something like that. lol

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I sold the 20G red car (my avatar pic) and got a 100% stock burgundy one (lol not anymore).

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haha damn I'm running out of money :)

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Just to add to this, I am going to run my 14b to the limit
Mods are (well, some assebly is still going on)
Dejon Exaust 2.5" - 3.0"
2g O2 housing
Evo 3 ported exaust manifold

The turbo and the O2 housing are going to get ported on friday!

also have a 255hp fuel pump
AFPR to go with that also

I have the 2g mas, not installed yet because I need:
550cc
S-AFC

and a 4 bolt rear end after I break the 3 bolt!
What are the limits of this little turbo for psi? 16-18?


Was going to try to have it ready by dyno days but with a limited budget i don't think I am going to make it in time. Would be interesting to see what it would make on this little turbo.

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get a fmic too buddy, that sidemount will get HOT.