E85?
 

i tried running a search but i could not find anything, just curious what is needed for me to run E85?

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search again man, seriously. fuel management, big fuel pump, big injectors. done!

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Don't you need differn't lines to?

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Not unless your stock ones are too small to support your HP. The stock lines will max at a much lower HP level on E85 then they would on race gas.

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can we get the exact minimum specs for running E85?

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If someone wants to put a FAQ together we can take care of this once and for all.

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That is completely dependant on your setup. Someone with a SC61 is going to have entirely different requirements then someone on a T28.

To reinforce what Chris said, all you need is to make sure you have enough pump, enough injectors, and fuel management.

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Nobody has seen any other problems with fuel lines? For some reason I think I thought I heard about the rubber rotting away because the E85 isn't as lubricated or some shit? I am probably wrong though since I haven't researched E85 that much.

So totally stock lines are fine as long as they can handle enough volume for your power goals while maintaining a good tune?

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So far so good. I wish I could find the link again, but there were some mustang folk who had been running it for a long time, and decided to disassemble everything to inspect for any abnormal wear. They found nothing. But if in 7 years I find that I need to replace my fuel rail due to e85, then so be it.

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950's on a e316g / walbro 255 / dsmlink over kill?

I haven't found much on this setup, let alone a E316G. I was just wondering if I can support our great country in burning what they can provide.

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No such thing as over kill, always better to be over prepared then underprepared, but you should also get a fuel pressure regulator

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950's should be fine on that turbo. Just keep an eye on your IDC's while tuning. DSMlink will work dandy!

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Yeah, forgot that. I'll be getting that, theres so much stuff I still need but I'm damn close to being able to put it all together. I'm still deciding on a Fuel Lab or Aero' unit.

Scheides, or anyone for that matter, what's a safe Duty Cycle for it? That's my last squid question. :P I'm aiming for way too much awhp on the evo 3 16g.

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950's are a tad large.
We just got done doing 880's on a 1g with 2g mas, idc's were just fine for 300ishawhp on our rollers.

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my setup is t3 AR .48, 880cc injectors, 255 walbro, and megan racing fuel pressure regulator, and apexi neo. would that work together with no problems?

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A wideband o2 should also be on your list.

you'll need

30%-40% bigger fuel pump (255's have proven sufficent for up to a 50 trim)
30%-40% bigger injectors
some type of fuel controler (SAFC, DSMLINK, EMS, ect.)
wideband o2 sensor.

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I'd just say if all the injectors are the same price, just get the largest ones that you can reasonably control with the tuning tools you have. But 880's should be plenty fine for a T3. As for the Neo, I have no experience with those. But if you have an EPROM, most shops here could burn you a new chip to get you close, and then fine tune it with whatever else you have.

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What were the IDC's at on that car?

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I don't recall, I want to say mid 80's?

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If you have stock lines and a single fuel pump, then 880s are enough. The stock lines, a Walbro 255 and 880s will all max around the same HP. If the car makes some power, then you need a bigger fuel system to run E85. You can run 1000s though, it won't hurt anything, I have 4 customers with Evos running E85 and 1000cc injectors.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but last year when Kyle ran that 11.1 or whatever it was on E85, he was running an SC61 with stock lines, and a single Walbro 255HP. And I think they mentioned he was pretty much at his limits there. But that is still a decent amount of power that fuel setup was handling.

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*Bump.

Why don't somebody with the knowledge talk their asses off on the Pros and Cons of running E85 on a Forced Induction vehicle? I still have some questions, persay does it run any hotter/cooler?

Somebody talk talk talk and Sticky Sticky Sticky.:Misc.block:

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It runs cooler. It cools the intake charge temps, it cools the EGT temps, it can lower your coolant temps a little.

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That's what I wanted to know right there, talking with some buddys about e85 they had stated it runs damn hot and it is pretty bad on the engine. I think I may try my ways with it.

Hey does anyone know if I can run both Prem(93) and e85 using DSMLINK and say 880's? Or would it be too much on 880's/e316G? Or too little I meant.

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You can run 880's on a link with 93 octane.

I hope your "buddies" don't help you work on your car as well :scared:

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Erm, I work on my own. I can yell and spazz out in ease and not look like a psycho.

I was just wondering if I could run both gases, but now that I think about it, why not just run e85 if it runs cooler and possibly am able to get more powah out of it..

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If you have link, then have two tunes one for E85 and one for 93, but if your trying to mix the fuels and have a consistant tune then have fun, maybe im wrong but that seems like it would be a pain to tune and keep consistant

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Yeah, I have link and was going to make 2 tunes. 1 for each. But I think I may just go straight e85. I just tried to make everything more difficult, as usual. Thanks guys.

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I just finished tuning a 2.3L stroker evo with a 61mm on it on "dual tunes".

He has a daily driver E85 tune and a "limp home" 93 octane mode when he can't find E-85.

I would recommend something like that. Like mentioned above, blending gasoline makes for very inconsistant power and tuning.

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swanny did you set that up on a switch, or is a laptop required to make the changeover?

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Laptop required.

Hmm...I guess I could use the nitrous tables to cover E-85 under power/main tables, but start-up, warm-up, cranking, etc would all be a bit weird, off....

So no, you need to upload the files. Now if someone had a carputer ;).

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SC6152S, Stock fuel line, stock fuel filter, Aeromotive FPR, 1600's, and a 255HP.

It did 525whp like this, and the fuel pump was just starting to die down at that point. IDC's were mid 80's. Base Fuel Pressure was between 35 and 40psi, I cant remember where exactly.

His Daily Driver FWD has a 255HP, an AFC, and 880's. It makes 330FWHP all day every day on some type of 16g. We would try to go higher, but it is a daily driver and it has 200,000 miles on it.

I'll just go out on a limb and say that E85 is a good fuel ;)

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Or if AEM would release an iPhone interface :D

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Nothing to do with lubrication or lack of. It is everything to do with the corrosiveness of alcohol on rubber and aluminum.

Like many in this thread have said though, people using it today have seen little to no effect on their stock parts in non flex fuel vehicles.

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AMS did a pretty good test on Corrosiveness of E85.

I have also read that difference in corrosion between E10 and E85 is minimal. All cars are designed to run E10, so therefore E85 shouldn't cause much difference.

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I have a 1993 Talon TSI AWD turbo and all I have for mods would be Apexi N1 3" turboback exhaust and a K&N filter. I am wondering what exactly I would need to switch to E85.

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Read post 16.

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Thank you for the information.

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Out of curiousity, how much (about) would these parts cost?

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1000cc injectors $275-290 :search:
fpr $150-250 :search:

dsmlink $545 :search:
fuel pump $100:search:

If you ask me what the total of these four things are I am going to E-slap you in the E-face.

When we told you to search in your other thread we didn't mean just post your question in a different thread. We meant READ the thread! The second post tells you what you flippin need.

On a good note, at least you found the thread.