ok i dont have a boost controller of any sort. but i know u can turn the boost up a little. but im not 100% sure how. can i just tighten down the wastegate a little bit? or is there a safer way.

Buy a boost controller.

no. get a boost guage and an mbc at the same time, and don't go past 15psi........actually............i take that back, its all good till 23psi

just wait and get what gixxer said, its not worth the dammage you can do when you can spend away from 50 bucks or so or a couple grand to fix your engine. i dont think you should need to flip a coin ;)

WHY IN THE HELL IS THIS IN ADVANCED TECH? Someone please delete this shit.
www.vfaq.com...there is a restrictor nibble in the bcs. Remove it, worth 1-2psi gain.

Go to Home Depot and make a MBC, then go to checker and buy a boost gauge. I wouldnt recommend any brand of MBC except a Autometer though.

Holy fucking shit you are a dumb ricer!! No, DO NOT go to Home Depot and make a MBC. The dumb things are like $35-40 from www.boostcontroller.com and they actually work. I have seen my fair share of eBay/Home Depot boost controllers in my day, and not a single one ever worked properly and consistantly. I hate to break it to all you cheap n00bs out there, but Home Depot in fact is not a performance parts store. I too was once a cheap high school kid and it broke my heart to find that out, but after many years of therapy I am finally able to accept the fact that I should buy decent quality parts if I want my car to run for more than a week at a time. A decent boost gauge is a must, I know Elite usually has a few in stock at any given time, and they gave me a good price when I got one there a few years back. One more thing, Autometer doesn't make MBC's...

Do an intake and exhaust first...

Chris is right... dont be cheap if your going to buy a dsm... they dont like that.

Shane too is right, a new intake pipe, IC piping, and exhaust will make a lot more of a difference than turning up the boost a few pounds. Gotta start somewhere though, and the cheap stuff is a lot nicer to buy (MBC, gauge, etc.).

JOE P MBC is the best bang for you buck. 45-50 bucks and they work great for what they are.

CRAIG

Home Depot? That gave me a good laugh. HEY TOO FUCKING BAD THEY DON"T SELL TURBOS AND TRANNIES THOUGH?

WTF!!!! :bs:

They dont have turbos, but put a few leafblower motors together and you have yourself a damn nice supercharger! 7's this year for sure! :headache:

Dont remove the bcs nibble. I did that a long time ago....1-2psi my ass. My car was hitting damn near 20psi on my T25. Dont do it. And like Chris said....DO NOT MAKE YOUR OWN. If you dont mind your car going to shit.....go for it. Otherwise dont do it. I went through Elite and got mine for $30. My boost gauge was about the same. Matter fact, I have a spare one laying around. So if your interested, pm me.

You already own a DSM. People with stock DSMs have a hard time keeping them running. People that buy the best parts for DSMs have an even harder time keeping them running. You have a DSM and want mod it with parts that your making, and hope to keep it running? Don't be dumb, listen to the DSM experts that we have on this forum.

Just goto elite and pick one up. It's faster, just as cheap as a JoeP, and it's local.

Homemade mbcs do work Chris. Ask 1FAST14B. He was running 12.1 on a 14b and a homemade mbc. You should get a k & n filter, exhaust, and boost gauge before you turn up the boost. Call Elite, they probly have some mbcs laying around and maybe a gauge for you. They could order you an exhaust. If you have a 1g, checker carries k & n filters. Call first though to see that they have it in stock.

Ye you can make your own, it just has to be perfectly made with all the right tools and shit. Picking up some parts at Depot and slapping them together isnt going to work too well.... If you have all the tools and know how to do it more power to you...

I have made and sold many many homemade MBC's in my time. Never got a complaint, only praise on how well it worked. Sometimes it takes a bit of playing to get the boost set dead on, but when its done, it worked flawlessly.
But, no home depot for me, only ACE hardware. lol

IMO, if you want cheap performance, get a KNN, full exhaust, and do porting. screw the intake pipe, ic pipe. there nice, but you still can run fast without them...ask cher! 95+ manifolds are ok, but i ran just fine with my ported 1G.

i think cost to make a single MBC was like $7?
Adam

Everybody should buy fishtank bleeder-valves and use them as boost controllers...since they get the job done, they must be good!

Amen Adam. Us 14b-er's know what cheap proven performance is. :toast:

Naw, too expensive. Just poke random holes in the vacuum line going to the wastegate until it makes the boost you want.

Wow! I never thought of that.

I have a friend who made his own too. And it worked fine. But I for one wouldnt trust or put that shit on my car. I've had too many big problems that were caused over stupid shit. Just be safe about it. Sure you may save some money by going cheap...but when shit goes wrong, you'll be really sorry and you'll be kickin yourself in the ass for not doing shit the way it should've been done.

Wow! I never thought of that. [/b][/quote]
Thats how you get around class rules that don't allow boost controllers. :)

wow.
thanks for showing me that you dont know shit.

fishtank bleeders...puhlezzze, that was like 5 years ago...


Adam

My Joe G boost controller is better, ask Dane, Colin, Chris. etc... and no, i said Joe G, not Joe P. i make it.

BTW are you actually reading boost now? LOL
I found a noticable increase in performance by getting an Elite MBC (Great MBC, thanks guys) and a aftermarket Turkey call (BOV). I have the K&N filter but the intake pipe is stock and the exhaust and UICP is stock also. Its just a matter of wether you want huge performance or just something to give ya a little more balls. either way if you havent gotten this from the thread already dont make your own unless you know what your doing. $30 at elite is about the best price your gonna find, and they are very nice and accurate. either that or get a Apexi AFC then you have a nice little blue display. LOL

Don't you mean AVC-R? :stick: :bounce:

yeah, shouldnt you be on ebay. :bj: :stick:

An AVC-R is not much more than a blue screen. I could not get the damn thing set on my car. My hallman was very reliable.

wow.
thanks for showing me that you dont know shit.

fishtank bleeders...puhlezzze, that was like 5 years ago...


Adam [/b][/quote]
Oh for Christ's sake does nobody understand sarcasm anymore? :fworld:

booooozt

Exactly!

BTW are you actually reading boost now? LOL
I found a noticable increase in performance by getting an Elite MBC (Great MBC, thanks guys) and a aftermarket Turkey call (BOV). I have the K&N filter but the intake pipe is stock and the exhaust and UICP is stock also. Its just a matter of wether you want huge performance or just something to give ya a little more balls. either way if you havent gotten this from the thread already dont make your own unless you know what your doing. $30 at elite is about the best price your gonna find, and they are very nice and accurate. either that or get a Apexi AFC then you have a nice little blue display. LOL [/quote]
Well if it is acurate, then my damn MBC wont tune my boost. I'll run 13/15 all day. No matter if that thing is all the way in or out. Does anyone know, on a 2g, if the line you tap for a boost gauge has blue lines on it or not?

Any of the vaccum lines coming off of the intake manifold will work best.

Tap the bov line (obviously not the recirculation tube though).

For 1G's, I prefer to use the turbo-outlet elbow (when still using a TDO5H turbo).

I did it there but I was told it makes the turbo seem more laggy. I had no problems though.

Back when I had my MBC tapped into that outlet-elbow I got zero boost-spike, when moved to the BOV line during the FMIC install I started getting about 2 psi spike. I have also switched a lot of people's cars over from the BOV line to the elbow and never got a complain about it making the turbo more laggy, but everyone did say it eliminated the spike (or at least seriously reduced it).

Boost leak? Or just the weak T25. Does it at least spike past 15 to start? The T25 will only hold like 13-15psi in the high RPMs.

If your gauge reads vacuum on intial startup then your probably on the right line. Even if your on the wrong line, if your getting a boost reading then it should be accurate if there is no leaks.

Tapping of the BOV or comp housing or comp elbow should have no effect on spoolup time. Think about how it works...

Tapping of the BOV line should give somewhat more consistant boost levels from one day to the next because it takes into effect how well or not so good the intercooler is doing it's job. Getting it pre-intercooler pretty much makes the turbo always run the same boost, but you could end up with varying boost levels at the intake manifold/motor depending on how heatsoaked the intercooler is because the better an intercooler is doing at it's job of cooling the more pressure drop you will get post-intercooler.

If you are trying to run as little boost as possible, then tap it pre-intercooler. Then the wastegate will get to see the most amount of boost pressure the quickest and be able to open sooner.