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scheides 02-09-2008 01:10 AM

4B11T engine pics - the guts!
 
http://www.turbotrix.com/wordpress/w...2/4b110031.jpg

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Speedfreak 02-09-2008 01:33 AM

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Now that's what I've been waiting to see!! Thanks

It looks good, seems like they knew what they wanted to build it for. I want one!

Super Bleeder!! 02-09-2008 03:45 AM

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http://www.turbotrix.com/wordpress/w...02/4b11006.jpg

shit is BEEF

Speedfreak 02-09-2008 04:00 AM

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Yeah, who knows, maybe it'll be better then the 4G63?! Well basically if it was equal, but lighter.. would make it better..

sleepydsm 02-09-2008 04:44 AM

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Wow. neat looking. How are those sleeves gonna be with the open deck...

Super Bleeder!! 02-09-2008 01:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 227352)
Wow. neat looking. How are those sleeves gonna be with the open deck...

There are K-series pumping 550-600whp on stock UNSUPPORTED sleeves.

Speedfreak 02-09-2008 02:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepydsm (Post 227352)
Wow. neat looking. How are those sleeves gonna be with the open deck...

Thats not an "open deck" like a Honda, that is semi open, or semi supported deck kinda like an STI. From the looks of it, they supported it in the direction of thrust, so I'm thinking it will be solid. Also the thickness of the sleeves(and I'm sure the base) are much thicker then most Honda sleeves. This was built with power in mind if you ask me.

FattyBoomBatty 02-09-2008 04:00 PM

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Looks awesome.

311evo 02-09-2008 04:21 PM

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looks quite strong, especially for a stocker. im still anxious to see new dyno numbers for the X's, especially after seeing what HKS's mods did..

Kracka 02-09-2008 08:19 PM

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AMS and Vivid have already posted graphs on EvoM with mods.

scheides 02-09-2008 11:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 311evo (Post 227379)
looks quite strong, especially for a stocker. im still anxious to see new dyno numbers for the X's, especially after seeing what HKS's mods did..

Please note the other thread about evo X dyno numbers ;) AMS's initial bolt-ons are yielding 87whp gains w/o any tuning!

Goat Blower 02-10-2008 11:19 AM

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Same with AGP, seems they are just like the original DSM, but better.

FFPerformance 02-10-2008 01:09 PM

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Looks like some good stuff coming down the road ;)

sleepydsm 02-10-2008 11:09 PM

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Hmm, live at home for a few years and have a brand new X? hmmm, sacrifices...

hahaha eff that.

FattyBoomBatty 02-10-2008 11:26 PM

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Get a job, pay off loans, buy a new GTR... sacrifices..

JET 02-10-2008 11:53 PM

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The engine looks awesome as hell, now if they could drop the weight back down...

FattyBoomBatty 02-11-2008 09:31 AM

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Lol, weight. Just do regular weight saving mods.

"If those darn brakes weren't so big, I'd save 30 lbs!!!"

scheides 02-14-2008 02:22 PM

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Here's some real measurements of the new rods, they are bigger than on a VIII/IX:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=325201

VIII/IX rods are 13.36mm x 18.26mm

X rods are 16.28mm x 20.20mm

Anyone have a set of eagles or crowers just for comparison purposes?

Pushit2.0 02-14-2008 03:06 PM

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I have an Eagle and Pauter rod here, Its not size but material that makes the Eagle/Crower/Pauter rods stronger then stock. They are forged 4130 Chrome Moly vs forged steel.

~John

gofastman 02-17-2008 12:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushit2.0 (Post 228171)
I have an Eagle and Pauter rod here, Its not size but material that makes the Eagle/Crower/Pauter rods stronger then stock. They are forged 4130 Chrome Moly vs forged steel.

~John

forged 4130 chrome moly is forged steel :loser:

JET 02-17-2008 05:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gofastman (Post 228559)
forged 4130 chrome moly is forged steel :loser:

Don't get lippy when you don't know what you are talking about. Yes 4130 is steel, but all steel is not 4130. Most OEM forged rods are 51 series low carbon steel. 4130 and 4330 are high carbon and are superior to it.

jhaan_dude 02-17-2008 06:05 PM

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p3ned....:Banane56:

gofastman 02-17-2008 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 228613)
Don't get lippy when you don't know what you are talking about. Yes 4130 is steel, but all steel is not 4130. Most OEM forged rods are 51 series low carbon steel. 4130 and 4330 are high carbon and are superior to it.

dude, are you on your rag?
I know full well that there are different alloys of steel, it was a simple smart ass comment.

JET 02-17-2008 07:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gofastman (Post 228619)
dude, are you on your rag?
I know full well that there are different alloys of steel, it was a simple stupid ass comment.


Fixed that for ya :D

I was just busting your balls! :lol:

Super Bleeder!! 02-17-2008 09:03 PM

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I feel no love here.

FattyBoomBatty 02-18-2008 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Super Bleeder!! (Post 228639)
I feel no love here.

You should hit the bars.

gofastman 02-18-2008 01:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 228627)
Fixed that for ya :D

I was just busting your balls! :lol:

The anger demons were back in force tonight, but I'm ok now :boxing:

sleepydsm 02-19-2008 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gofastman (Post 228664)
The anger demons were back in force tonight, but I'm ok now :boxing:

dave u need to

simma
don
na

Dizmm 02-19-2008 11:30 AM

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I like parts of the 4b11 engine, but I think they could have done a few things different. The 4b11 may not have the revs that the 4g63 could produce.

JET 02-19-2008 11:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizmm (Post 228914)
I like parts of the 4b11 engine, but I think they could have done a few things different. The 4b11 may not have the revs that the 4g63 could produce.

That makes absolutely no sense. The 4b11 is a square engine, so it is built to rev. That is the whole point of the shorter stroke.

Dizmm 02-19-2008 12:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JET (Post 228923)
That makes absolutely no sense. The 4b11 is a square engine, so it is built to rev. That is the whole point of the shorter stroke.

You see those rods!!! Look at the difference in diameter, you'll spin a bearing from starving those rod bearings of oil. yeah it may rev, but do you like your engine. Just like any engine, sure it will rev high, but will it LAST!

scheides 02-19-2008 12:16 PM

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2.0 dsms and evos w/ 4G63's consistantly rev very high, 8k stock motor and 10k on built motors. I would go higher with my evo but the stock rod bolts tend to stretch at high rpm/torque. My power peaks around 7k anyways, so no need to go much past 7600 (stock rev limit).

Kracka 02-19-2008 12:32 PM

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Stock rev limit is 7840 on the IX's according to all the ROM's I have.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-19-2008 12:53 PM

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It is 7600 in a stock IX rom.

Kracka 02-19-2008 01:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ecoli (Post 228944)
It is 7600 in a stock IX rom.

Thats really strange. I thought it was too (and know it is on some) but a few days ago I was thinking about this and check a few stock rom's that I have gotten from other local IX's and they were at 7800 I think. Who knows, I am probably nuts, but I will check again tonight.

Kracka 02-19-2008 01:30 PM

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I just had someone check their STOCK Evo IX ROM and the rev limiter is at 7804.

Shane@DBPerformance 02-19-2008 01:55 PM

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I have stock IX roms that I have pulled out of cars and they say 7606.

tpunx99GSX 02-19-2008 01:58 PM

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I smell conspiracy!

Kracka 02-19-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tpunx99GSX (Post 228978)
I smell conspiracy!

No doubt this is strange, I verified 7804 on 3 stock IX ROM's (2 GSR, 1 MR).

gofastman 02-19-2008 02:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dizmm (Post 228925)
You see those rods!!! Look at the difference in diameter, you'll spin a bearing from starving those rod bearings of oil. yeah it may rev, but do you like your engine. Just like any engine, sure it will rev high, but will it LAST!

Could you please elaborate? you think larger diameter (rod bearings I'm assuming, you didn't say) = less durability? :confused:


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