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It's a 1972 Nova SS with a 396 under the hood. My buddy bought this car a couple years ago and he has since moved on and wants to sell it. I mentioned just trading cars with him because I think this nova looks like sex. The interior is all redone and looks brand new. it has a racing automatic transmition which is new to me. This is something totally new to me, so I know there would be much to learn. But what do you guys think I should do?

I don't think the nova is running it's best right now, but that would be something to take into consideration I guess. It might need minor work to get to it's good running stage. I would obviously not drive this car in the winter. I'd garage it and get a beater car. Anyways, lets hear what you guys think.

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I would first find out exactly what is wrong with it. If it is something minor then no worries. What exactly does it have for mods. And this race auto transmission what exactly does that entail. Manual valve body /upgraded clutches and internal pieces/ or is it just a shift kit? More info on the car I guess. Very nice car however. Would be total stand out on the road though killing the sleekness of your 2g. Kickass car nonetheless :)

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Take the trade for a car that can actually make you money in the long run. Restore that beast and enjoy. Dont get my wrong. I love dsms but a deal like that would be hard to pass up.

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^I'll find out more about the tranny tonight. It used to be a stick but the clutch pedal was taken out and now it's an auto. I'm pretty sure it's basically stock

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I guess just weigh it out. Do you want money more right now then a car? Or do you trade the car and if you want money in a summer or so resell the Nova. Just make sure you dont crash it ;)

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find out what is all done to it and give me a call I can look it all over sense I started out building hot rods

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^sweet will do.

Id love to sell the dsm now, but i dont see it selling any time soon to be honest. Ive planned on getting something nice like this to restore and keep forever. The only drawback is this is a little earlier than I would have liked to find a car like this. I was hoping Id pick one up after Im outa school.

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If that is honestly your reason for getting rid of your Eclipse, then why would you get another project car?

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As far as a "true muscle car" goes anything after '71 becomes less valuable. I'd say look everywhere in the car for rust. Under the carpet, in the trunk...Run the VIN through and make sure it is a real SS, check for matching numbers with the engine and the car, etc. Buy one of those bondo meters and see how much bondo she has (or a magnet). You are trading something that has yet to reach it's true value for something that has. I'd scrutinize that car HARD. Any little blemish I'd take a note of. Personally, I'd keep the DSM.

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If I got the nova I'd buy a shitter car for school and keep the nova garaged except for summers. I wouldn't keep the nova with me at school. I honestly appreciate you reading my other threads that closely.

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Gotcha, thanks for the advice. Are you saying you don't think dsms have reached their "true" value? And is that value going to increase or decrease as time goes on in your opinion?

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Well, in my opinion finding a clean, manual GSX with lower miles that hasn't been beat to piss is pretty hard to do already. It can be done, but they are a premium usually. I can't think it will get any easier. So something like you have MAY increase some in value. Where as with the Nova, 10 years down the road it will be worth pretty much what it is worth today. And quite frankly it isn't too hard to find a clean one. The made a ton of them. So, they may start out as a v6 car and get swapped to a v8. Serves the same purpose and makes it a lot easier to find clean shells and what not. We don't really have that option. And with how much Eclipses like to rust (especially the strut towers) I would keep the clean GSX and look for a Nova or something down the road. Why trade what you have for something you can have 10 years down the road? Main thing I am saying is, I personally think it is easier to find a clean Nova than GSX. You know what you have into your car, where as with the Nova it would start all over again. In the end, it's all up to you.

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^This is true. I think it is hard to come by a clean gsx, but at the same time the demand for a "nice" dsm vs a cheap dsm isn't very good. I get a million complements about my car wherever I go, but to be honest with ya, I haven't had one legit offer yet (I know it hasn't been fs too long).

I did just find out that the Nova is actually a '73 with a late 60's big block in it. I'll have more time later to chat with my buddy about it tonight or tomorrow.

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I wouldn't trade. For one, it someone else’s "build". Kind of like that no one really wants to buy a modded dsm that’s been already built, they want something as their own(at least in my mind). So judging by the time/money/effort you put into your dsm, you don't seem like the kind of person that would buy someone else’s project. This of course could be completely wrong, if you have the patience to wait it out before you have the money/time to make it your own build. Do you get what I’m saying?

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Where is the spot to vote to just keep the DSM?

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Sorta, I like to do things myself and if I ended up with this nova I'd go back over and redo things "my" way sorta like I did with a few things on my dsm. I re-ran the wires for the subs just because I wanted a little cleaner look. The thing is, I'm pretty sure it's just a somewhat stock big block. Again, idk for sure I'll post more later.

I'm sorta just afraid I'm not going to find somebody that cares enough about dsms to put an offer out on mine.

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I think the 396 was discontinued in either 70 or 71 so it is not a numbers matching SS. I have a 67 Nove SS witch I think is the better body. The 68 thru 73's had alot of metal on them and where tanks and although they went strait fairly well they do not turn. Keep the DSM.

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Keep the dsm, make it faster then a V8, and still get around 20 mpg. Simple deal. Your car is nice from what I seen and you know it yourself and isn't someone elses problem like the other car could be.

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If you are thinking about trading, I would say just keep the DSM instead. I like the way your car looks alot more than the nova, the DSM is faster, and it has more creature comforts. And like other people were sayin too, if you wanna get rid of the DSM so that you don't have a project car, why trade it for another one? You can still buy a beater, and not bring the DSM to school with you too. Also, I don't know why, but that nova just looks like a big bucket-o-ass to me

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I knew too many ppl would vote for that so I didn't put it up there haha

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If it was something more special I would say go for it, but a '73 Nova isn't exactly a collectors car. They were cheap as hell back then and they sold a ton of them. I am sure it isn't a real SS as I am quite sure they didn't make them in 73 either.

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The one thing ive ben thinking lately is how much easier it would be to work on that car or many others out there. I have pulled just about everything out of my bay i can find and there still isnt as much room.
-keep the dsm or get some cash to

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If the interior and body are really nice i'd trade, although i have no idea how much $ you have in your car either. I really like those old muscle cars, if it were a GTO I'd trade in a heartbeat.

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Id trade for a charger, but i still need some form of forced induction

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The motor is a big block from an older 60's nova, but they did in fact make the ss in '73. I did a quick briefing on the differences between each year earlier today.

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Ok I think what I'll do is hold off on the nova mainly because like some of you said, it isn't the practical car I'm looking for. I know when I get older I'd like to restore an old muscle car of some sort, and I guess I just got a little excited. I'll keep the dsm up for sale for now.

Thanks for all the helpful comments.

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^ Well if the GSX is your main ride and you're debating on trading your GSX for a new main ride, the NOVA... then NO I wouldn't trade either. A NOVA like that isn't practical for a daily car these days. Ya, a '73 isn't exactly considered a collector either.

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I wouldn't do it in a million years. Even if it was a real SS, they would've only come with a 200hp small block at best and it wouldn't be worth two squirts of piss anyways. There's just nothing special about that car and you'd be fixing it twice as much as your DSM. The Nova looks like about a $5000 car to me.

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^Well it does have a late 60's big block in it and I've been told it's pretty quick by some other friends. But your opinion means a lot to me steve, thanks

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Late 60's big blocks don't mean squat unless it's something special like a ZL1, LS6, LS7 or L88. They were commonly used in trucks as well with small heads and low compression. If it had aluminum heads and some decent pistons, it might be fast.

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"Quick" to most people is a stock 200 hp car.

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ok kracka i cant keep it because i already paid the $25 to put it up on carsoup haha

Honestly, I don't get why everybody thinks I should keep it. I finally have it running great and it's probably at it's peak point and worth just that. I don't plan on keeping this car forever.

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Keep it because it is running great and at its peak! DSMers all strive for a great car, but as soon as that goal is met they're listed for sale. I drove mine until the engine finally let go, parted it out, and made more money than it was ever worth whole.

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^how'd you make more money that way? Unless you have a built up motor I don't see how any dsm could part out for over $4000.

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just ask I have parted out a ton of dsm's the last one was a bone stock 99 spyder. got it for 1200.00 and sold it all off made a total of 6500.00 on it

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Maybe I should just have you part it out and keep some of the profit hahaha. Not for a while though.

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I parted out my '94 Talon TSi (FWD) for over $12k, and that was with a rod-knocking engine.

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^how?!

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Selling every single little piece off the car. I spent about 3 months doing it, but it was actually pretty fun b/c every time I took off a part it would bring back memories of me installing that part.

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Awww.


But yeah, parting out does generally bring a lot more money. Obviously can take more time than just selling the car, but it does bring in more money. You're not going to sell it or part it, I think that's obvious. The question is, what will you get next? You've already gotten/sold a goped...

Get a Ruckus or a Zuma.

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There are some videos out on youtube of them things freestyling. Kind of sick!