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sleepydsm 09-25-2008 12:27 PM

Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Do you guys think DSM values may ever increase as time goes on (assuming we still have gasoline in the years to come haha)?

I know I see less 1Gs and even less clean ones.

I'm sure 2Gs are getting that way as well.

A//// Guy 09-25-2008 12:28 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Doubtful, but if you find the right young kid with rich parents, you are set. :D

HiImBrian 09-25-2008 12:32 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Haha I agree, I don't think they will really go up in value. I don't really understand why, since the awd turbo editions are so nice to have.

tpunx99GSX 09-25-2008 12:33 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
the past two 2gs that i have purchased in running order have been under $2000. The GST i had was $2000, and the GSX i have now was $1000. and both were able to drive home with no problems :)

DontStopMe 09-25-2008 12:36 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
They will mostlikey go up in value in about 20-25 years, IMO. Just like the older Camaro/Firebird/Mustangs of today, our generation will be restoring them. "hey I had one of those when I was a kid, wish I still had it, fun car"....sound familiar? History repeats itself and DSM's are the muscle cars of today. Again all just my opinion.


edit: Also depends of success of the EVO/WRX and other "modern muscle".

Shane@DBPerformance 09-25-2008 12:39 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
I am starting to see decent 1Gs go for more than 2Gs sometimes, but the 95-96 DSMs are usually in pretty bad shape.

Goat Blower 09-25-2008 01:13 PM

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I think Dontstopme hit it right on the head. The current musclecar boom is from teens and twenty-somethings buying new Camaros and musclecars back when they were $3500 brand new, getting rid of them with family's and such, then wanting their old glory days when they're in their 50's and 60's and have the cash. Being in the middle of the two era's, I find myself wanting to pick up my high school car, a late 70's Monza Spyder and fix it up right. I think the kids buying DSM's today for pocket lint will be wanting a really nice one some day, and they're being parted out on a daily basis, which will make them harder to find and more valuable. This is part of the reason I haven't tried to sell mine many times when I get sick of it.

JET 09-25-2008 03:03 PM

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I agree, they will eventually go up, but don't expect a supra type following. Clean ones are going to be the key.

Goat Blower 09-25-2008 03:05 PM

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Hell, I remember when you could buy a running 1970 Chevelle or 1969 Camaro for under $2000, something to think about.

asshanson 09-25-2008 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 257681)
I think the kids buying DSM's today for pocket lint will be wanting a really nice one some day, and they're being parted out on a daily basis, which will make them harder to find and more valuable. This is part of the reason I haven't tried to sell mine many times when I get sick of it.

My thoughts exactly. I think if I get rid of mine I'll regret it a few years down the road. This is the first car that I've actually cared about keeping nice, I want to keep it for quite some time. Sometimes the issues piss me off, but they're mostly caused by me anyway.

MustGoFaster 09-25-2008 04:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slowboy (Post 257705)
My thoughts exactly. I think if I get rid of mine I'll regret it a few years down the road. This is the first car that I've actually cared about keeping nice, I want to keep it for quite some time. Sometimes the issues piss me off, but they're mostly caused by me anyway.

Some people fail to see that. They get :violin:

turbotalon1g 09-25-2008 04:35 PM

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I don't think they will be worth a ton, but if your car is clean and done right you could def. make some money on it.
I hope i don't sell mine.

Jaei Sun 09-25-2008 05:07 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
My buddy picked up late last year, a 92 Talon TSi AWD, FULLY stock from the original owner w/ 96k miles on it. From the south so it's CLEAN, for only $2700!

BLaCk_1cE 09-25-2008 05:12 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
I think they will retain value to those who know what they are. I know of a guy who had a 1989 Turbo Trans Am in a shed that was completely MINT, like 1000 miles on it, and he sold it for $4K. If you know what they are its alot better in deciding there value.

Jakey 09-25-2008 07:37 PM

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They will. There have been (2) 1Gs sold by NABR members in the last couple of years that fetched the $7.5-$10K mark. One of which was just up the road from me in Waterloo.

Andrew7dg 09-25-2008 08:09 PM

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My car is 18 years old going on 19...

sleepydsm 09-25-2008 09:59 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
I think they might be in some time. I'm sure there are a lot of DSMers out there who will one day actually want another, kinda like what was said earlier.

GsXtUrBo98 09-25-2008 10:19 PM

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Well just like I have a guy down the street from me that is like 55 years old and is completley obsessed with his 91 talon that he bought brand new in 91 and has TONS of money invested into it and IS the cleanest 1g that I have EVER seen.

He will never part with it and if he can hold on to it for 17 years and still be in love with it then all of us dsmer's have something to look forward to so suck it up and have no regrets...

Speedfreak 09-25-2008 10:59 PM

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I've had mine for over 15 years so far, and if possible, will keep it until I die or until it is stupid valuable for some reason.

The guy I bought it from(retired old guy) bought it new, owned it for two years, put 9k miles on it, and when I saw it the first time, it was stored on jack stands. It had never seen rain, snow or salt at all. He believed the car would be a collectors item because it was the first collaboration between Mitsu(Jap company) and Chrysler(US company). His wife said F that I want a Caddy that she would actually drive..

So it's a salt free, winter free car that I've modded the sh*t out of.

turbotalon1g 09-25-2008 11:31 PM

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^that is sweet.

DontStopMe 09-25-2008 11:50 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 257681)
they're being parted out on a daily basis, which will make them harder to find and more valuable.

Another point I forgot to mention.

Only time will tell. 1g's may hold more value simply because 2g's have the strut tower issue and will most likely all be junk in 20-25 years. Then again, I guess a rust free 2G will probably be really rare........

turbotalon1g 09-26-2008 08:32 AM

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2Gs are for girls.

john 09-28-2008 12:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 257716)
I hope i don't sell mine.

Then don't sell it. Sounds easy enough.


I hope none of you are thinking about this as an investment. You will spend more money maintaining it in the next 20 years than you will make even if they go up in value.


I would also argue that dsms aren't the "muscle cars" of today.


Not many cars will ever go up in value. I have experienced it but that was just a timing issue. My honda insight is worth a couple grand more than when I purchassed it over two years ago. Obviously the increase in gas prices caused this but I don't think that there will be a big following for DSMs in the distant future. There isn't enough demand right now to justify it in my head.

DontStopMe 09-29-2008 01:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 257912)


I would also argue that dsms aren't the "muscle cars" of today.


So what is?

Constant_Project21 09-29-2008 01:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotalon1g (Post 257782)
2Gs are for girls.

Ouch, more like 3g's and 4g's are for girls....ugh sick of this v6 eclipse bulls**t.

sleepydsm 09-29-2008 02:15 AM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
I'm not suggesting they will be worth like $20,000+, I just mean more valuable than the piddly $1-5K they got for now, depending on condition.

1QUICK4 09-29-2008 09:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DontStopMe (Post 258130)
So what is?

Mustang, Camaro, G8, GTO, 300C, Charger, Challenger, pretty much the same ones that were the musclecars of yesterday.

Halon 09-29-2008 10:07 AM

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Like Momin, I also have a rust-free, salt free 1G. Non-rusty 1G's I think WILL be hard to find eventually. Lots of them are trashy, and the clean ones will be hard to find eventually. As long as I own mine, it will never see winter/salt.

john 09-29-2008 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 258168)
Mustang, Camaro, G8, GTO, 300C, Charger, Challenger, pretty much the same ones that were the musclecars of yesterday.


I agree. Something with a larger than 4cy engine. I just don't see the demand right now to justify a comeback in the future. If they were more polular/special, maybe I could see it.

Nothing against dsms, I just don't see it happening.

Those of you who think they will be worth more, how much do you think?

TheBlizzard 09-30-2008 03:43 AM

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One key thing that needs to be mentioned is the reason why some people get into DSM's in the first place. I bought my first AWD Talon when I lived in Duluth and couldn't get anywhere on those hills on the winter; I didn't want a truck so I bought the next best thing.

It was all downhill after that; but when I bought my first DSM a 16G was considered a huge upgrade. Nowadays the turbos of choice shit out 16G's.

With that being said the valuable DSM's will probably be the 1G's like Mo's or Brandon's that have never seen snow and aren't all dented up.

Scrmegl 09-30-2008 07:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 258168)
Mustang, Camaro, G8, GTO, 300C, Charger, Challenger, pretty much the same ones that were the musclecars of yesterday.

Aren't we really mainly talking about 90's vehicles for this comparison/question?

1QUICK4 09-30-2008 09:17 AM

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Ok,

Mustang, Corvette, Viper, Camaro, Caprice, Impalla, Trans Am, LTD, etc.

Scrmegl 09-30-2008 01:45 PM

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Fair enough. No imports in that list? It was the 90's. Kind of a big shift in sport/fun cars.

I guess they wouldn't have too much value but I am sure they will be sought out. I'm only 31 and I feel the urge to find cars I used to own.

User Name 09-30-2008 01:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 258414)
Ok,

Mustang, Corvette, Viper, Camaro, Caprice, Impalla, Trans Am, LTD, etc.

an LTD? Are you kidding me? A Ford LTD?

What the next poster said*

DontStopMe 09-30-2008 02:05 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 258201)
I agree. Something with a larger than 4cy engine. I just don't see the demand right now to justify a comeback in the future. If they were more polular/special, maybe I could see it.

I would argue that DSM's are rather popular. Also, for being "special" think about a Corvette vs Camaro. Most people are restoring Camaros and not Vette's because that's the car they use to have since they probably couldn't afford a vette when they were young. The 4G63 is the new version of the small block chevy (SBC) 350. Crazy power potential, stong, and best of all, a currently common block. But as I stated earlier, for me it depends more on the success of the EVO, since the 8's and 9's kick the shit out of DSM in all areas IMO.

My view may be off by the fact that I come from a Camaro family, but my father is also a goodmark/dynaocorn/sherman body parts dealer, so I have a gerernal idea of what is in demand right now.

1QUICK4 09-30-2008 07:14 PM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DontStopMe (Post 258464)
My view may be off by the fact that I come from a Camaro family, but my father is also a goodmark/dynaocorn/sherman body parts dealer

Hook me up mang, I need 1/4s

DontStopMe 09-30-2008 08:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1QUICK4 (Post 258533)
Hook me up mang, I need 1/4s

give my dad(Steve) a call.
here is our website with # and email.
http://www.riversideautoce.com/

john 10-01-2008 12:54 AM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DontStopMe (Post 258464)
I would argue that DSM's are rather popular. Also, for being "special" think about a Corvette vs Camaro. Most people are restoring Camaros and not Vette's because that's the car they use to have since they probably couldn't afford a vette when they were young. The 4G63 is the new version of the small block chevy (SBC) 350. Crazy power potential, stong, and best of all, a currently common block. But as I stated earlier, for me it depends more on the success of the EVO, since the 8's and 9's kick the shit out of DSM in all areas IMO.

My view may be off by the fact that I come from a Camaro family, but my father is also a goodmark/dynaocorn/sherman body parts dealer, so I have a gerernal idea of what is in demand right now.


As far as demand goes, I look at the for sale threads and the prices. If the car was in demand, you couldn't find one for $1500. The price also justifies that it is not that special. A supra on the other hand....

Imagine how many miles would be on the turbos if the cars lasted that long... I just don't see it.

Time will tell.

DontStopMe 10-01-2008 03:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 258582)
As far as demand goes, I look at the for sale threads and the prices. If the car was in demand, you couldn't find one for $1500.

Right now yes, I'm pretty sure camaros/firebirds etc where rather cheap when they were 15 years old aswell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 258582)
The price also justifies that it is not that special.

agreed, I was saying they are not a "special" car. But they may be more special to people who previously owned and a lot of people have owned one.

Maybe we can come back to this thread in 20 years and find out! :)

311evo 10-01-2008 07:15 AM

Re: Will DSMs Ever Be Valuable?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DontStopMe (Post 258464)
I would argue that DSM's are rather popular. Also, for being "special" think about a Corvette vs Camaro. Most people are restoring Camaros and not Vette's because that's the car they use to have since they probably couldn't afford a vette when they were young.

that could go the other way to, i see plenty of people buying the cars now that they would die for when they were younger, but could never afford.

same example, a 17 year old kid owned a camaro back in the day, but damn he loved vette's. now that hes older and has a good paycheck he can decide between his highschool (sentimental value) car, or the one he allways coveted.


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