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cartman4040 03-24-2004 01:02 PM

Hey folks, I'm brand new to this site and have to say that I love the layout.

Anyway, I'll get to the point. I'm in the market (well, actually I've been in the market for awhile now) for a 97-99 GST or GSX (preferrably). I've been a fan of this car for quite some time and I'm finally going to step up and get one.

I was just curious to know from you all (since YOU folks are the one's who drive them all the time) if there are anything(s) I should look out for when buying one? Are there any serious pros/cons that I should watch out for? I've heard some people favor the GST over the GSX and vice versa... What do you think about them?

If everything goes well, I'm hoping to own one by mid spring... just in time to have it on the road for summer. I'm definitely planning on storing it for the winter (no way I'm going to put money into a car like this and have a MN winter rust it out).

So tell me what you all think? Lend me your thoughts! Thanks all.

TheBlizzard 03-24-2004 01:12 PM

Don't get a GST, you will regret it everytime you ride in a all wheel drive. You will end up getting talked into selling the GST and buying the GSX anyway.

CRAIG

joem 03-24-2004 01:21 PM

He's right thats what i did.
joe

blown_turbo_tsi 03-24-2004 01:39 PM

i've heard that scenario many times as well! :dsmrule:

cartman4040 03-24-2004 02:18 PM

Yeah, I know of a white GSX that's for sale. I would rather get a red car, but they're next to impossible to come across... unless I wanted a RS or GS... those are everywhere.

Probably going to go test drive it this weekend.

Jana 03-24-2004 02:27 PM

You mean I didn't sell you on my car?? lol ;)

I recommend the GSX over a GST, especially if you plan on driving it in the winter, or racing it.

BTW, welcome to the site! You should post up a little introduction in the New Members section...and if you are in the Twin City area, feel free to come out to our events and introduce yourself!

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 03-24-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cartman4040@Mar 24 2004, 01:18 PM
Yeah, I know of a white GSX that's for sale. I would rather get a red car, but they're next to impossible to come across... unless I wanted a RS or GS... those are everywhere.

Probably going to go test drive it this weekend.

White is superior to red. White kicks ass, but whatever floats your boat. :liar: ;)

Super Bleeder!! 03-24-2004 04:29 PM

just ask jet, red cars suck. po-po wise

npaulseth 03-24-2004 05:01 PM

Hey, get the GSX. I bought a 99' GST, and sold it after 4-5 weeks of having it.

Welcome to the site.

Noah

Blk96Eclipse 03-24-2004 05:05 PM

Hold out for a GSX. I wish I would've held out for a turbo eclipse but I bought a N/A a few days after totaling my other 2G

howslowcanyougo 03-25-2004 12:37 AM

Whatever you do, DO NOT get a Auto!

I need to hold on to the title of the slowest local DSM!

AJ 03-25-2004 12:39 AM

AT's aren't bad if the TC, shift kit, and a few other goodies like N.O.S to get you out of the hole.

Kracka 03-25-2004 12:41 AM

This is gonna piss everyone off....I prefer FWD to AWD. I just find it a lot more fun for street driving (not for drag though). It is also easier to make them handle better. the improved gas economy is a plus too. I used to have a GSX but I sold it.

AJ 03-25-2004 12:43 AM

I don't miss AWD as much anymore either, but hell I drive a NT. WTF do I know.

BUCKY 03-25-2004 12:50 AM

Save some money on the car and get a first gen TSI AWD or GSX. Then take the extra money you have and mod the shit out of it. Better car to start with and more money to start modding. :3gears: :3gears:

cartman4040 03-25-2004 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by howslowcanyougo@Mar 24 2004, 11:37 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT get a Auto!

I need to hold on to the title of the slowest local DSM!

Well, I lack the skills to properly drive a manual so I'm pretty much forced to get an AT.

SlowWhite 03-25-2004 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by howslowcanyougo@Mar 24 2004, 11:37 PM
Whatever you do, DO NOT get a Auto!

I need to hold on to the title of the slowest local DSM!

i don't know I might actually have you beat on that one!.



as for the car. Definetely get the 5spd AWD. if you want a REd one.


go to www.buyafastcar.com they have about 8 dsm's right now a white 98 and a Red 98, and a few GS-T's.

Anycase they are located in NJ it's a dealership, and they specialize in performance cars. They give warranties, as well as financing.

And every once and a while they have realy good deals.


-brian

howslowcanyougo 03-25-2004 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlowWhite@Mar 25 2004, 08:43 AM

i don't know I might actually have you beat on that one!.




Just untill you get that new diff!


If your looking for a clean A/T car, I'd be open to offers?

98 TSI, AWD, 69k, with a "few tricks" up it's sleeve.....;->

john 03-25-2004 10:27 AM

Why are you buying the car for? Racing? A daily driver? If you plan on doing any racing do not get an auto. It is not hard to learn a manual. Someone can teatch you quickly. You will regret getting an auto when you start losing to honda civics. Ask Jana (dsmchick) and Tom (tpunx) on here. They both have auto GSXs. I test drove a 97 gst spyper (auto). You dont even notice the turbo kick in. All you do is hear it. A gst couldn't put me in the back of my seat even from 20mph mash of the throttle.

Jana 03-25-2004 10:28 AM

Personally, AT's are better for racing anyway :D with the proper build up

blown_turbo_tsi 03-25-2004 11:03 AM

i'd say i could teach you standard in about an hour but um.... i live in el paso.... but go for the 5 speed..... much much better.... and lots more fun :3gears:

cartman4040 03-25-2004 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 92tsiawd84@Mar 25 2004, 09:27 AM
Why are you buying the car for?  Racing?  A daily driver?
The car will mostly be a daily driver (stored during the winter). Can't afford to pay for 2 vehicles (other car is a '01 Monte Carlo that my sister is buying from me). I won't be doing any extreme racing like hitting up a track. Maybe just messing around on the streets every once in a great while. I am buying this car with the intention of modding it up. It may start off stock, but there are things I would like to do to it as far as performance wise (speed, handling, etc).

If I could drive a manual, or had access to a vehicle that was a manual so I could learn, then I would definitely get a manual. Granted a friend of mine tried teaching me a long time ago (so I do know the fundamentals), I don't want this car to be my "manual learning experience"... as much as I want to replace a tranny do from too much gear grinding. :P

Kracka 03-25-2004 11:35 AM

Buy whatever makes you happiest...don't listen to what people say unless that is truely what you too believe. For ideas though...I learned how to drive manual cars by test driving used ones at car dealerships.

blown_turbo_tsi 03-25-2004 11:46 AM

and my friend thought i was weird for test driving random cars!!!..... i'm not the only weird one here!!! :banana:

CVD 03-25-2004 11:52 AM

I learned on a 2G GST at metro mitsu. Hope no one here bought that car :stick:

blown_turbo_tsi 03-25-2004 11:55 AM

i learned in a mazda miata and my dad's truck...... with a lot of torque!

try the miata.... sport tranny is really nice and easy for those first gear woes!

Matt D. 03-25-2004 01:47 PM

I learned to drive a stick when I test drove a '80 Capri 5.0 with a 4-speed. Only killed it once when I was in reverse backing out of a driveway. Don't get discouraged, if you already know the fundamentals the battle is half won. Each car has a different clutch so it's practically a new learning experience each time you drive a different manual transmission.

cartman4040 03-25-2004 01:53 PM

Yeah, I'll more than likely borrow my dad's S10 and try to learn on that. He'll be curious to know why I all of the sudden want to learn how to drive a stick... then when I tell him that I'm going to sell the Monte and get an import, I'm pretty certain he'll roll his eyes at me quite a few times (he's a hardcore american muscle guy). Hahaha!

A//// Guy 03-25-2004 05:02 PM

That will be nice when you say hey want to race and you leave him in the dust :3gears:

cartman4040 03-25-2004 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EclipseTurbo@Mar 25 2004, 04:02 PM
That will be nice when you say hey want to race and you leave him in the dust :3gears:
Yeah, it would be interesting to see how the GSX I want would hold up against his Chevelle. LOL!

CopperGSX 03-25-2004 05:23 PM

Back to the original question Here's what I can advise you on.
Manual or Auto?
Go with the manual. So what if you don't know how to shift. You will learn quick. It's easy. I learned on a 1984 Nissan Skyline GT. RWD, in line six, Turbo. After about 20 minutes of practicing i was like this pic: :3gears:

The trickiest part was remembering that I was in Japan an on the wrong side of the car not to mention the road. But I got the hang of it quick.

Things to look for: There are lot's.
Find out when the timing belt, and Water pump were last replaced.
Make sure it doesn't show signs of crank walk. A odd little thing with the 2G engines. A easy test is to take a left hand turn and push in the clutch. If it drops to the floor you got crank walk. Don't buy it.
Get a carfax run on any prospective cars.
Check tire wear any odd wearing is a suspention/alignment issue.
Check the engine. Finds out what mods have been done. The fewer the better.
Shifting. 2nd gear seems to be the one that most people complain about. The tranny is one of the weak points with the 2G. (This will be hard to check if you don't know how to drive a manual) Take someone along that knows manual trannies.
Of course all the simple shit too. Check the fluids, Exhaust color, smell and such.
Make sure to check the seats too. It will give you an indication of the previous owner(s). Driver seat wear and no other wear on the seats indicates usually 1 person in the car. So on and so fourth. Post up what your looking at and I will be happy to answer any questions that I can for you. Sure everyone else will too. Good luck and remember two things.
1. Red = more attention from the police
2. Buy what you want, not what you think other people will like. It's your money.
Hope this helps.

cartman4040 03-26-2004 01:49 PM

Well today pretty much put the knife in my plans at getting a DSM. I called my insurance agent and the best he could do for getting me insurance was DOUBLE what I pay for my current car... I couldn't believe it. :uh:

So now I'm forced to rethink this whole thing out and it's not looking very good at all. Damn, what a shitty way to start a weekend. :(

CopperGSX 03-26-2004 02:05 PM

Sorry to hear that. You got some opions left though.
Get a 1g then the insurance might be cheaper
Get a N/A and then turbo it (Pricy and not entirely legal by not telling your insurance co.) ;)
Save your money and wait. Then after some time you can buy a new what ever or other that is the shit then. Insurance will drop eventually.

Halon 03-26-2004 02:38 PM

or try some other insurance companies


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