Progress since last year
 

I put the car on the dyno last fall up at MAP. It did pretty good for 20psi. Hoping to run around 35psi in a few weeks. Then I will head back to the rollers. Fuel (E85) is limiting me to 20psi (need another fuel pump).

http://www.tcstangs.com/forum/attach...3&d=1225479738

Re: Progress since last year
 

Not shabby buddy! What pumps you running? Might I suggest what I got!? ;)

-A. Swift

Re: Progress since last year
 

I was most likely going to throw another wally in it. I would rather not listen to a big external pump all the time while I drive. I can't even hear the current 255 in there. I also considered the bocsh 044 pump as well. What pump's do you have?

Re: Progress since last year
 

twin wally 310's.. :D

-A. Swift

Re: Progress since last year
 

I'll have to look into that.

Re: Progress since last year
 

twin 310s unneeded. swifty just has them so he can talk shit, like he is gonna break 800 or even touch 1000whp the 310s are capable of.


About time kevin, can't wait.

Re: Progress since last year
 

talk shit on having fuel pumps? Sorry, I don't like running out of fuel. Most run out of pump before they even run out of injector. capable on what gas? saying these 310's are not needed, is like saying those twin aero 1k's are not needed on the FDSM...geez.

-A. Swift

Re: Progress since last year
 

The car is down for a week or two until I can get some tires put on it. My left rear tire was flate this mornging. The side wall is really cracked. Its time for some new rubber... Anyone got something?? 225 50 r16 or 245 45 r16??? lol

Re: Progress since last year
 

Trying to put a race car together but being a hack? Sorry but my cars run and I don't remember you ever having to worry about fuel esp. at 500whp hell you would barely outrun 1 310 at 500whp and thats if you did it at DB.

Re: Progress since last year
 

meh...It's called planning ahead.

-A. Swift

Re: Progress since last year
 

Now childeren settle down. lol! I'm still open to ideas on fuel pumps. I considered the new fuel lab brushless pumps but idk if I want to do a external pump :(

Re: Progress since last year
 

I'd go with an oem pump, like the bosche or one of the ford choices.

Re: Progress since last year
 

I run a bosch -044 and it isn't all that noisy for an external. You can hear it when you turn the car on before it is started, but while running you can't hear too much and I have zero sound deadening back there right now and even a few holes where I ripped the bracing out from back there in prep for the cage and the basketball sized hole for fuel cell access. :p

Re: Progress since last year
 

I vote twin 255's in the tank. Why not?

Re: Progress since last year
 

Hmmm decisions to make..... LOL.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Bosch in tank.

Re: Progress since last year
 

that's a good possibilty as well!!

Re: Progress since last year
 

So you gonna spill the beans on your setup?

Re: Progress since last year
 

how many lbs of vtec?

Re: Progress since last year
 

Are you going to run a warped to fuck clutch pressure plate like you sold me without saying anything?

Re: Progress since last year
 

I made over 700awhp on twin walbros intank thru a 1/2" line.

Re: Progress since last year
 

^oh well swifty is gonna make way more than that.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Not only power, but fuel type has to also be factored in. 700hp on E85 requires quite a bit more fuel then 700hp on C16.

I also vote in tank dual 255's. It's just cheap and easy. That's what I'm running, still on stock wiring, still on stock lines with the exception of the line from the fuel filter to the fuel rail, and the fuel rail to the AFPR (both are short sections of -6 Pushlock). And it was apparently enough for me to make the power I made on E85 (well more like E70 probably).

Re: Progress since last year
 

^how true.

I agree. I wish I would of done it too. But hopefully i run out of fuel at about 450ish and then I will stop with my car.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Im not aaron..nor did I ever say I was, so shut it.

I also did the twin 310's because they are roughly 20 bucks cheaper per pump. Another thing to consider when you don't have the most money in the world to build a car.

-A. Swift

Re: Progress since last year
 

Wow Kerry. Seriously? If I knew it was warped when I had it I would have thrown it away. Like I said in my pm. It was a used pressure plate that worked perfectly in my car when I pulled it out. I have several people that will vouch for that. What more would you like? A one year warrenty on used parts? Sign me up for that one!!! What a mature way to attack someone who did nothing wrong. You took a chance on a used part dude. Hence why the pressure plate was only a $100!!! Plus I gave you several free parts from my parts car that I could have charged you for bit I didn't because, I thought you were a stand up nice guy. Hence why I made that thread saying you were a good guy. As in my pm I sent back to you I don't want any bad blood between us.

Re: Progress since last year
 

True, but I was bringing up the example of twin intank walbro's should be plenty for most vehicles that still see street duty (or for gt40 pumps are also a great option). The external fuel pumps require voltage controllers so they don't burn out over time.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Let this be the end of it. Take it to PMs if necessary. Posts concerning this from now on will be deleted.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Thank you! Back to the fuel pumps. I still need to design a good flowing distribution block for twin pumps. Any ideas???

Re: Progress since last year
 

I used a cheap little 3/8" barbed T-fitting from Ace Hardware, ha :)
Pretty sure Old Man Hill uses the same. Ideal flow wise, maybe not, but I'd say we've definately proven that it works.

This isn't mine, but is basically exactly what mine looks like.
http://dsmlink.com/forums/attachment...0&d=1205607153

Re: Progress since last year
 

Dont use a t-fitting; use a y-block.

Here is a quote from kiggly on the topic:
"scaling for multiple pumps is extremely dependent on the fitting that merges the pump flows. A long time ago I was running a "T" fitting and two pumps in parallel barely flowed more than a single with this restriction."

Re: Progress since last year
 

A "Y" fitting would probably have better flow than the "T" fitting, if you can find one. I believe Swifty used a NOS "Y" fitting outside the sending unit on his car.

^^ Same time post, doh!

Re: Progress since last year
 

http://www.magnafuel.com/products/ac...ings/index.htm

http://www.magnafuel.com/products/ac...oup-500pxW.jpg

Re: Progress since last year
 

I'll throw a mid list up once I'm not on my iPhone. Or if I get bored a work.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Interesting. I'd like to see more info on that if you have a good link.

I ask because I am running two 255's, in parrallel, with a "T" fitting, on E85, airflow right around 60lb/min, still on stock wiring, and haven't ran out of pump. I have a pretty solid 11.2 AFR until redline. If it really barely flowed more then a single pump, I would imagine I would have ran outta pump awhile ago considering I'm running E85, and also have not rewired them with thicker gauge wiring.

Re: Progress since last year
 

I was doing more research on T vs Y and found evidence about T not working the best compared to Y.
I will post back if I can find, but if i remember right it was a 3am read so i probably didn't save it.

Re: Progress since last year
 

I'm pretty sure I'll be running a Y fitting for the second pump if I go that route.

Re: Progress since last year
 

If you do dual in tank pumps, are you going to put a spacer in between the 2 pumps? I talked to someone that said they had the 2 pumps right next to each other and they were actually fighting each other a bit so a 1/4" aluminum spacer was added between the 2 and it fixed the problem. Something to think about.

Re: Progress since last year
 

Thanks for the heads up on that Kerry!!

Re: Progress since last year
 

Yep. The guy I talked to said that the 2 pumps right next to each other were actually fighting eachother and creating excess heat. In his case it actually burnt up one of the pumps and created signs of burning in the tank but no explosion thankfully. He said that a 1/4 spacer out of aluminum work and solved all problems. Let us know what you end up doing.