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Cammaxon 08-05-2009 12:27 AM

Project Talon 09
 
When I was in Iraq I bought a slow rusted out 2g, The car was knocking, dying, had mushy suspension, brakes were shot, turbo was creeping, the drivers door was completely rusted on the bottom, there was rust all over the car and the rockers were falling out, the rims were bent the interior was worn the speakers were blown and the gauges were from 1984. Being bored and having money to waste after selling a Cadillac and STI, I hopped on line and bought just about every part I could find on ebay, forums and random car sites. My goal was to build a quick, reliable daily driver that turned heads. I found out why every one on mitsustyle hates body kits, went all summer without sleep wasted way too much money on bondo and had a lot of fun J
Lots of people on this site ridiculed me for buying up Evo parts, and said I should just get one, and it probably would have been cheaper
L and faster in the long run but I’m very happy with how it turned out.
Wish I could have pulled a few more ponies out of it but I have to thank Julian for watching the sun set and rise putting my 20g on.
I can’t drive in the winter any more but thanks for the suspension Dave and sorry my stock shit was so rusted!
Let me know what you think, I know that everyone hates body kits, I understand why, its way to much work and money for something that doesn’t increase performance.


The Pics are a little out of order and i didnt take 1/2 as many pics as I should have. The end of this summers work is at the end make sure u check them out.


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio3.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio5.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio6.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/audio7.jpg


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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/bodykit2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/bodykit1.jpg

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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/bodykit4.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/bodykit5.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/door1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/door2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...on/engine2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...on/engine3.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...on/engine4.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...on/engine5.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...eadlights1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...eadlights2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/rims1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/rims2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/rims3.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...axon/rims4.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/seats3-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...maxon/sea7.jpg

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 12:29 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/seats1-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/seats2-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/seats4-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/seats5.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...xon/seats6.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/spoiler2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/spoiler1.jpg

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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ringwheel1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ringwheel2.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ringwheel3.jpg

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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...tsifront-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n.../tsirear-1.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod5.jpg

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 12:29 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod4.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod6.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod3.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod2.jpg



http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...ishedprod7.jpg

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http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...on/engine1.jpg

awd-drifter 08-05-2009 12:42 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
coool. something I dont see everyday.

99spyda 08-05-2009 12:44 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Very cool to see it all come together!!!

Constant_Project21 08-05-2009 01:17 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I just don't like body kits cause they're fugly. Can appreciate the work put in though. Color and body kit ruins it for me though.

tehehodi 08-05-2009 01:32 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
that color is my favorite color....what did you do with teh stock front bumper?

sleepydsm 08-05-2009 01:39 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Hmm. I'm glad you did the work yourself, but the kit ruined it for me. Otherwise good job. And I hope the jambs are at least not forest green like the engine bay is....


I hate body kit's because about 80% of them make cars look ridiculous/ghey, ruining the sexy lines the car already had. And the fact you chose the "Blitz" style; that was terrible the minute it was on the big screen in fast and furious 1, over played and over riced. Just sharing my two cents.

-Kevin

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 10:28 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tehehodi (Post 299769)
that color is my favorite color....what did you do with teh stock front bumper?

i gave it to 95TSI he hasa forest body and the older bumpers.

scheides 08-05-2009 11:54 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammaxon (Post 299761)
My goal was to build a quick, reliable daily driver that turned heads. I found out why every one on mitsustyle hates body kits, went all summer without sleep wasted way too much money on bondo and had a lot of fun
....
Let me know what you think, I know that everyone hates body kits, I understand why, its way to much work and money for something that doesn’t increase performance.

Its not that they cost way too much money and doesn't increase performance, they just typically change the lines of the car, sometimes in a graceful/smooth way, and sometimes they add sharp edges and angles that aren't really pleasing to the eye. Add to it a bright/harsh color and some (no offense) cheap looking tail lights, and well....I don't like it :) What is that wing off of, a wrx? It really doesn't fit the car IMHO.

With that said, it looks clean, its cool that you fixed up an old/tired dsm, and I like that you put evo seats in it. I always hated the seats in my 2G.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammaxon (Post 299761)
Lots of people on this site ridiculed me for buying up Evo parts, and said I should just get one, and it probably would have been cheaper [/FONT]L[FONT=&quot] and faster in the long run but I’m very happy with how it turned out.
Wish I could have pulled a few more ponies out of it but I have to thank Julian for watching the sun set and rise putting my 20g on.
I can’t drive in the winter any more but thanks for the suspension Dave and sorry my stock shit was so rusted!

DSM's must be driven in the winter, its their birthright! Have you had it tuned yet? Let's see the power mod list and some dyno results! Maybe you'll win our hearts that way ;)

Kracka 08-05-2009 12:03 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I like what you've done with the interior!

TkrPerformance 08-05-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
the evo parts are the only thing that looks good imho. the rest is right out of F&F. Also I hope you like to pay to have it painted all the time. the molded body kit will crack out all the time if you plan to drive it on MN roads. that is a show mod only

Kracka 08-05-2009 12:20 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Couple things:
1. Why did you put a WRX spoiler on a 2G?
2. At least paint the front bumper mesh and support beam black.

A//// Guy 08-05-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I liked the project up until I saw the side skirts... and then the bumper... and wing... and then the paint. barf.

Evo mods are nice on it though!

OMGkiwi 08-05-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
to each, thier own.

asshanson 08-05-2009 01:00 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 299791)
I like what you've done with the interior!

I was going to say the same thing.
Nice wheels too, the offset looks good.

GsXtUrBo98 08-05-2009 01:16 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Not a fan of taking a 2gb talon which IMAO I think is getting really rare and making it into a eclipse with a bodykit.. Just think its making a rare car even more rare... I personally like the 2gb talons and they only made them 97 98 so only 2 years as to where the eclipse was 3 and more common... However I do like and want to do the same thing that you did with evo parts and have wanted to do it for a long time. Good job on that.

Body kit = FAIL
Evo parts in a dsm = FTW

A//// Guy 08-05-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Oh man I looked closer, and its a 2Gb. Those stock are the sexiest dsms, and now its ruined. :( haha

GsXtUrBo98 08-05-2009 01:28 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by A//// Guy (Post 299804)
now its ruined. :(

My point exactly...

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 01:34 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I had the WRX wing sitting in my basement and it just happened to fit so I went with it. I’ll get around to painting that stuff black when I have more time, and I’m praying the molding doesn’t break! I glued between, mudded and sanded smooth before paint pretty much just followed the body work book I got.

I don’t think I’ll win your hearts on performance; it’s mostly a daily driver, As far as a mods list goes its nothing too fast.
It has a 1g block bored 0.020” over, 2g head, metal gaskets, ARP Head Studs, JE 0.020" pistons/rings, Eagle Rods, 1mm oversized stainless steel intake and exhaust valves, HKS 272 intake and exhaust cams
FIC 750cc injectors, Walbro 255 FP, Aeromotive FPR, K&N Fuel filter SS Fuel line
Large Indy Race Core FMIC with 2 ½” hard pipes, 1g Intake Manifold and throttle body, k&N intake, Evo3 exhaust manifold, FP Housing 20g Turbo, Greddy BOV REcuric, Tial 38mm Gate, SS 3 ½” o2 Housing, 3 ¼” Exhaust all the way back
Optima Redtop Batt, NGK Plugs, High performance wires
ACT 2600 Clutch and lightweight fly SS Clutch lines, Hallman MBC, DSM Link 2.5 (Tuned at DBs by Shane)
Hawk HP plus pads, SS Brake lines, AEM drilled and slotted Rotors up front, slotted in the rear, Tokico Illumina Adjustable suspension, 1 ½” Lowered
I was only able to make 232AWHP and 219FTLBS @ 17psi on 92. Its fun to drive it hits 17lbs at 2800rpms and holds it until 7000. I want to keep it as reliable as possible for the next 2 years while I finish school but if any one has any suggestions on how to make more power asides from E85 Ill be happy to hear it. I do want bigger injectors, a new intake manifold and throttle body and exhaust manifold.

goodhart 08-05-2009 01:39 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I like the wheels and interior!! What do you have for performance mods?

Edit: I see now. Why is it only making 17psi though? I ran 23psi on my bastard piece of shit 20g on 650's and pretty much the same fuel system tuned by shane also. A SMIM may get you more power up top and a TB may also help a bit, but I would say keep the exhaust manifold. If you really need more performance out of it, then just port it, but the EVO III mani's flow pretty well.

Kracka 08-05-2009 01:47 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Stick with ported manifolds. A SMIM would kill your low-end street fun.

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 05:25 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
The manifold was ported and polished by archer a few years back by some one else and idk why only 17psi. Shane said he had to retard the timing a lot to get 17. i just woke up from this txt message "God they're Raping you on mitsustyle bro" but i'm happy with the car so i guess thats all that matters.

Kracka 08-05-2009 05:29 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cammaxon (Post 299837)
"God they're Raping you on mitsustyle bro" but i'm happy with the car so i guess thats all that matters.

LOL

If you're happy with the car that is what matters. You're the one who put the time, money, and effort in to it and you're the one who drives and enjoys it :)

Kevin 1G Drummer 08-05-2009 07:23 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 299839)
LOL

If you're happy with the car that is what matters. You're the one who put the time, money, and effort in to it and you're the one who drives and enjoys it :)

But the rest of us have to look at it. haha ;)

I like all the Evo parts, and the 2gb Talon is by far my favorite 2g. A little piece of me died when I saw the body kit. I give it 6 months before the body kit starts to crack if you're daily driving it. It doesn't matter how much you glued it, it's gonna crack. And actually, the more bondo you use, the faster it'll crack.

Cammaxon 08-05-2009 07:51 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I dont give the front bumper long at all :( i take every incline/decline slow and at an angle but it always scrapes.

95tsi 08-05-2009 08:57 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I'm glad to see the car come together for you, I know it has come a long way since you got it. Hopefully, it will work out the way you want it to!!

And, I disagree with driving DSM's in the winter! They are summer cars so you can keep the rust off them and make them look good and last!

Forced Fed 08-05-2009 09:05 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I think you did a hell of a job, sure I don't care for WRX wings on DSMs, hell I really don't care for body kits and lime green paint...

But atleast you did it your self and had fun doing it, more power to you bro!!

jhaan_dude 08-05-2009 11:48 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Glad I could be a help in such a cool car!

99spyda 08-05-2009 11:57 PM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
HAHAHA i claim that txt message!!!

Goat Blower 08-06-2009 12:01 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Figure out why you can't run any boost and you'll find the powah. I made 395 to the wheels 10 years ago with a tiny 20G. That was a dynojet though.

Cammaxon 08-06-2009 12:06 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
idk why i cant run more boost :( thats all shane tuned it for.

Forced Fed 08-06-2009 12:09 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
A whole shit load of things can keep you from running more boost.

Shit most MHI EVO 16gs can run most boost than half of what I've seen on this board. It is how your supporting mods support eachother...

scheides 08-06-2009 12:13 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Nothing wrong with a conservative tune, and that mod list makes even heavily modded cars drool, it's a classic old-skool parts list ya got there. More boost will get ya more power but if you're happy with it where it is and its reliable then stick with it like it is ;)

LOL @kevin's comment! Like hughes said, as long as you are happy with it, that is all that's important.

scheides 08-06-2009 12:14 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forced Fed (Post 299886)
A whole shit load of things can keep you from running more boost.

Shit most MHI EVO 16gs can run most boost than half of what I've seen on this board. It is how your supporting mods support eachother...

Seems like every one I see is running 27-30psi on E85, where have you been? Oh that's right, newb newb newb ;)

Swifty1638 08-06-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
^LOL..try 40psi currently.

Shane@DBPerformance 08-06-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Pump gas sucks.

Forced Fed 08-06-2009 12:16 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I don't need to hear about E85, that was two years ago ;)

Edit - I just went over the mod list, and I can't believe how little of power you are making... Maybe get a 1g head and 1g ported intake mani??

scheides 08-06-2009 12:20 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forced Fed (Post 299891)
I don't need to hear about E85, that was two years ago ;)

Edit - I just went over the mod list, and I can't believe how little of power you are making... Maybe get a 1g head and 1g ported intake mani??

Its his thread, not yours dude! gtfo ;)

240whp on DB's Dyno Dynamics sounds exactly right for only 17psi on that setup, it isn't a dynojet!

Forced Fed 08-06-2009 12:22 AM

Re: Project Talon 09
 
I understand that my man, but honestly even on a DD he should be making well over 250whp for his set up, atleast in my opinion...

Just proves stay with stock 1g rods on 2g pistons, not need for a built engine and all that piston slap acting as knock.


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