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mlomker 09-13-2009 05:21 PM

A 2nd or winter car
 
It wouldn't be terribly affordable for me at the moment, but I'm thinking about getting a second car to drive in the winter. Once the coilovers are on the Evo I'm doubtful that it's going to be all that useful in the winter (ground clearance).

I'd like some opinions on what you'd consider to be a good car for the winter (probably FWD) but that is still unique/cool.

I could either look for something with higher mileage for $8-9k or something pretty nice for $15-17k. It looks like my best bet in the lower price range may be a Mitsu...used Eclipse GS with decent mileage goes for a pretty reasonable price. On the higher end I've thought about looking for a bone stock Evo 8 or a Mini Cooper S.

The downside with a used Evo is that it is tough to find one that hasn't had a tough life. 100% reliable is what I'd be looking for in my winter car...almost removes a used Evo from the running. I think I'm going to go look at a Mini Cooper this week.

123abc 09-13-2009 05:34 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
You can buy my Stratus Coupe. :)

HiImBrian 09-13-2009 05:35 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
my 98 impreza 2.5rs handles like a dream in the winter :) It's not out of the ordinary to see em last close to 200k miles either. You can pick up a 2001 rs for under $7000 easy

mlomker 09-13-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX (Post 305127)
my 98 impreza 2.5rs handles like a dream in the winter :) It's not out of the ordinary to see em last close to 200k miles either. You can pick up a 2001 rs for under $7000 easy

There's an idea and I was thinking about that. I had a 96 Impreza...was a 2.2 motor. Not a bad car at all but the valves went out at 130k miles. I keep hearing about people getting 200k out of their Subarus but it didn't work for me. Bluebook was $1500 at the time so I basically gave it to the dealer as a trade in.

Here's one with tolerable mileage.

Kracka 09-13-2009 05:52 PM

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For a winter car definitely get something AWD. A Legacy or non-turbo Impreza of some sort would probably be a pretty decent choice. I say drive your Evo though! I drove my DSM lowered 3" through Duluth snow and had zero problem with my Evo IX lowered 2". Just get some snow tires and you'll be set.

mlomker 09-13-2009 06:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 305129)
Just get some snow tires and you'll be set.

I may just do that--just thinking through my options. The X is the most expensive car that I've ever owned so I have some reservations about even driving it in the winter. My last car was a BMW but I had bought it used.

scheides 09-13-2009 06:20 PM

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Dude, snow tires on a lowered evo is more than adequate. Getting a second car for winter is just silly. Get some nice tires and rock it year-round.

I pretty much would not shut up about the set of General's I got last year:

http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=42
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=69
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=35

I intend to keep blabbing about them and driving on them this year :)

mlomker 09-13-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by scheides (Post 305131)
I pretty much would not shut up about the set of General's I got last year

Where'd you buy them and get them installed?

I've thought about having snow tires put on the stock rims and then getting new rims in the Spring for more aggressive tires.

My quandry is that I can lease a parking spot in my building for $80/mo but I can't store a spare set of tires anywhere (it's against association rules to just stack up a set of tires in a parking spot!). lol. I'll have to start looking around for mini storage here downtown, or something.

Kracka 09-13-2009 07:11 PM

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You could always rent a tiny storage locker from Public Storage or any other storage facility for spare wheels/tires and other misc. car parts :D

blageo23 09-13-2009 08:11 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 305128)
There's an idea and I was thinking about that. I had a 96 Impreza...was a 2.2 motor. Not a bad car at all but the valves went out at 130k miles. I keep hearing about people getting 200k out of their Subarus but it didn't work for me. Bluebook was $1500 at the time so I basically gave it to the dealer as a trade in.

Here's one with tolerable mileage.

My subaru has 278000 miles on it and runs like a champ!
I have a 97 Jimmy if you want to buy it :)

scheides 09-13-2009 09:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 305136)
Where'd you buy them and get them installed?

I've thought about having snow tires put on the stock rims and then getting new rims in the Spring for more aggressive tires.

My quandry is that I can lease a parking spot in my building for $80/mo but I can't store a spare set of tires anywhere (it's against association rules to just stack up a set of tires in a parking spot!). lol. I'll have to start looking around for mini storage here downtown, or something.

Ask around, some shops offer tire storage. Maybe you could even talk to one of our sponsors, some of them have storage space attached to their shop. I got my generals from tirerack.com, but I don't think they offer them in 18" size.

white_4gGT 09-13-2009 09:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mlomker (Post 305128)
Here's one with tolerable mileage.

Looks like a nice one.

polishmafia 09-13-2009 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 305142)
Ask around, some shops offer tire storage.

I know the friendly folks over at the Maple Grove Goodyear can store tires. ;)

Kevin 1G Drummer 09-13-2009 10:39 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 305131)
Dude, snow tires on a lowered evo is more than adequate. Getting a second car for winter is just silly. Get some nice tires and rock it year-round.

I pretty much would not shut up about the set of General's I got last year:

http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...8&postcount=42
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...2&postcount=69
http://mitsustyle.com/forums/showpos...0&postcount=35

I intend to keep blabbing about them and driving on them this year :)

I'm planning on picking up a set of those for my DSM this winter.

Kracka 09-13-2009 11:06 PM

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I was always quite happy with my Hankook Icebear W300's which should be available in 18's. In the dry they felt like a performance all season, but in the snow and ice they really hooked up and made winter driving very fun. Plus they've worn pretty well, they have 3 winters on them already and definitely have a 4th left in them.

Kevin 1G Drummer 09-14-2009 02:11 AM

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^^ I had a set of those on a Nissan 240sx, and those were also really nice tires.

john 09-14-2009 02:24 AM

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I would just drive it as it is, save the money for another set of track tires ;)

I drove my 92 AWD in the winter (16g, 50, and 60 trims) with what ever crappy tires I had. I have driven in 7 MN winters so far, never bought snow tires, never got into an accident, and never got stuck.

My winter car is my DD Honda insight which has the smallest tires you will find and has to be one of the lightest cars as it is pretty much an aluminum CRX chassis. I have driven this car for 2 winters. I don't see how the EVO could be any worse.

Driving in the snow/MN winter is typically only different if you are driving while it is snowing as the plows do a pretty good job of keeping the roads clean. I can come and go as I please at work so I can arrange my drive if I want though...

I can't see the EVO being an issue as it sits. I would go with it as is, it is always easy to buy another car or a set of tires if you are unsatisfied.

Kracka 09-14-2009 07:34 AM

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Driving a car through the winter on summer tires is pretty much the dumbest advice I've ever heard. That is just asking for trouble and is not only a danger to yourself but also to those around you.

rose0529 09-14-2009 07:43 AM

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+1 for buying a set of snow tires. It makes driving in the winter a blast and I have never had a problem getting around in the snow, its actually the best vehicle i've driven in the snow (with snow tires).

Driving in the snow on your summer tires is a really bad idea. I missed changing my tires by one snow store once, its like driving on ice with bald tires. They get almost zero traction.

mlomker 09-14-2009 09:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blageo23 (Post 305140)
My subaru has 278000 miles on it and runs like a champ!

Original tranny & long block? I'd find that hard to believe. I could have kept my Subaru running if I'd rebuilt the head but I'm not a mechanic...

mlomker 09-14-2009 09:18 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john (Post 305178)
I would just drive it as it is, save the money for another set of track tires ;)

haha. You know it! I can't wait until next Summer when I have all the mods on my car...track days should be a total blast.

Quote:

I have driven in 7 MN winters so far, never bought snow tires, never got into an accident, and never got stuck.
I've had a couple AWD cars and always had all-season tires on them. If the BMW had 200hp then I'd be surprised. It's just not the same as owning an Evo. The X actually comes with an obnoxious sticker on the driver's door warning you to not use the stock tires in the winter.

mlomker 09-14-2009 09:25 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scheides (Post 305142)
I don't think they offer them in 18" size.

I was thinking a set of Blizzak LM-60's since there is a Firestone a block away from me. Anybody had them before?

asshanson 09-14-2009 10:06 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
I wouldn't drive a coilover car through the winter. I've heard they get all messed up from all the sludge/salt, I can see them being very hard to adjust after a winter or two here. But I drove 3 winters now on my Talon and a single set of winter tires, but up until now it's had just lowering springs.

I probably won't drive it much at all this winter if I still have it. I'd rather drive around with RWD just to save the coilovers in the Talon.

t-revzr 09-14-2009 10:26 PM

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All this talk about driving in the snow makes me not wanna store my evo for the winter!

rose0529 09-14-2009 11:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by t-revzr (Post 305269)
All this talk about driving in the snow makes me not wanna store my evo for the winter!

Don't! drive youll have a ton of fun!

t-revzr 09-14-2009 11:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rose0529 (Post 305284)
Don't! drive youll have a ton of fun!

I know im just scared off all the salt and sand!

john 09-15-2009 01:33 AM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 305185)
Driving a car through the winter on summer tires is pretty much the dumbest advice I've ever heard. That is just asking for trouble and is not only a danger to yourself but also to those around you.


What do you call summer tires? I figured mitsu was smart enough to put all season tires on the ("ralley inspired") car but I guess not. Never had special tires, never had an issue. If my 1800 pound, skinny tired car drives fine, most others will do fine.

Guess AWD wasn't enough to give the EVO traction on asphalt, had to go with sticky tires??? Doesn't make sense to me but I suppose there is some reason for it. I will have to check his tires next time I see them.

TkrPerformance 09-15-2009 01:41 AM

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If you want to look at a mini PM craig on here he my bro he is looking to sell his built mini s so he can get a 4door car

mlomker 09-15-2009 01:59 PM

Re: A 2nd or winter car
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asshanson (Post 305266)
I wouldn't drive a coilover car through the winter.

I still have the coilovers in the box and waiting until Spring for the install was something that I was considering.


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