Hawver Intake Manifold
 

I've been looking at these on DSM Tuners, DSM Talk, etc. I was wondering if anybody around here was running one or knows someone who is, and if so what kind of numbers they have seen. Just looking for some local feedback here on this nice looking piece that is all.

http://hawvermotorsports.com/products.html

http://hawvermotorsports.com/images/...%20Maifold.jpg

http://hawvermotorsports.com/images/...e/DSCF0715.JPG

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That is one ugly manifold lol. That'd pretty much the only opinion I have.

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I like cast pieces, because they are usually robust.

Having said that, that is indeed one ugly intake manifold.

If the fins and name were machined off and the body polished it might look decent.

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I have been wondering about these as well... They aren't bling or eye catching by any means. However, they appear to be a better replacement cast intake mani than the stock version IMHO.

Nothing wrong with a cast manifold, very strong. Shit, shave the Hawver shit shaved off and polish it and it will look like a Magnus.

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Someone had on at the cookout. It looked alot better in person then online. But you shouldnt be buying an intake by looks anyway. These look like a very nice intake IMO The plenum could be Bigger But id should be comparible to a Magnus or JMfab.

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lol.
I wanted to go cast when i was looking at IM, but with the warranty's of all the SMIM ones i figured go with them. I used to have some comparisons of where this was a really decent mani for being cast, but i think it was always topped by the others probably a lot more so since the others have redesigned theirs.

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I like the looks of the manifold. Reminds me of a FP cast exhaust mani.

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It kind of reminds me of an offenhauser manifold.
Old school style

http://www.offyparts.com/images/offy_6019.JPG
http://www.steenaero.com/Files/Artic...smobile_11.JPG

http://www.53classicchevy.com/images...e-manifold.jpg

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I think they're sweet! Definitely the one I would get far over anything else. They're supposed to have decent gains without killing the low end, but I'd definitely like to see more than the 1 or 2 dyno sheets available.

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I don't think it looks bad. The lettering and lines has an old school muscle car look to it.

http://i6.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/fe/59/fee0_1_sbl.JPG

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cast mani's rock. I have one on the evo III

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I like em, and sometimes wish I would have gone with one of those over my JMF.

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Any particular reason why? (looking at getting a JMFab unit in the spring)

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I definately like the warranty on these things:

"Warranty?

Hawver manifolds carry a lifetime warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. This includes structural failure for any reason that might apply to it's intended use as an intake manifold.

This also covers breach due to N2O or methanol backfires. Defective parts will be repaired or replaced at our discretion. To file a claim or for further information please contact us at info@hawvermotorsports.com"


I don't think the Magnus, JMF, or others cover this do they?

Plus it seems the people that run these seem to gain bottom end rather than lose it, while still seeing nice gains up top. It may be ugly, but nothing a little bit of powdercoating couldn't take care of.

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Simply because it's cast and I'd feel like I never have to wonder if there is a pinhole leak in a weld somewhere. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with my JMF, but the Hawver one just seems like you'd never have to worry about it failing unless maybe you have a NO2 backfire. Thing just seems beefy as hell.

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I thought you had a clone of some sort of welded manifold...
and your exhaust manifold was a tube header of some sort.

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The intake is a hks copy. It is a 2 piece cast inktake. They did it that way so it could have the v stacks on the runners.

The exhaust manifold is s.s. cast weld l's. It was the first on that was on johns (pushit2.0) drag galant vr4

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I did a little research and discovered that the dynograph they have on their website http://www.hawvermotorsports.com/dyno_results.html came from a member on DSMtalk.com (reference thread: http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showth...=199371&page=4 ) . at the time of the dyno he was running: "16g, pump gas, w/ meth and a modded sidemount"

Might not be a bad option for those of us who prefer smaller turbo setups.

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Stronger but also heavier than a SMIM.

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I think I would be willing to sacrifice 5-10lbs just for the durability.

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I think it looks pretty good, almost 'stockish' looking. :)

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Hmm, if my Magnus ever cracks I'll have to look into one of these.

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Unless your shooting a ton of N20 you don't have to worry about JMF intakes.

The best way to go faster is to lighten the load.

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I don't see this as being anything worthwhile to think about as even the stock intake feels like it weights next to nothing IMO. I'd go with the Hawver, a better intake is worth a couple extra pounds. But you can feel the acceleration difference when you take out your floormats I'm sure....

Get rid of your turbo cause look at how much weight that adds.

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Don't be a dumb ass, you sound like a little bitch with statements like that. That intake probably makes no more power than my JMF and my JMF is lighter.

every pound counts when you want to go fast


If it didn't super cars wouldn't have exotic light wieght metals used in thier construction. Racecars wouldn't have carbon fiber and aluminum seats or plastic windows.

Removing wieght is the #1 way to make your car faster, handle better, and stop quicker.

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You're the one who sounds like the little whiney bitch. Big fucking deal it's probably 5 lbs heavier. How about you give your self a break and go fuck your JMF intake for a change, you sound in love with it.

Not to mention I'm sure your JMF intake is a lot more expensive than this cast mani...

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Nope, this one is $550, the JMF is $590. JMF is 7.5 lbs, this one probably isn't much over 10.

Anyway, I like the cast look, more sleeper than a shiny SMIM, would look good in flat black.

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+1, you're the one wining about how heavy the intake is. Race barefoot and naked why don't you, it'll save weight (the same amount or more than the difference in intakes).


Yeah, and that's why my wife's Escort is so fast & stops so quickly, especially compared to my heavy Eclipse.

If having a light car is so important to you, why start with such a heavy ass car, get a Honduh instead.

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How about you guys stop "fighting" over an intake manifold.

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if you shed 5 pounds in a car that runs a flat 13 second 1/4 that weighs 3000 pounds

you should be able to run 12.999792

an improvment of .000208

just throwing that out there, all theoretical of course

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Quite an impressive gain; that is, if they timed it to at least the 4th decimal place.

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That's the difference between running a 13 and a 12 though :D

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I guess I haven't noticed a track that goes to the 4th decimal place, so probably not.

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Truf

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It's called power to wieght ratio, not wieght ratio

I never said JMF was better. Just added that the cast manifold would be heavier. Then you got butthurt, then I got butthurt :lol:

I'm a freak when it comes to lowering the wieght of my cars. A little here and there adds up fast.

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power to weight ratio, really, 5 pounds, you talking a difference of .01 change in ratio. .02 if your only running 300 hp. also assuming 3000 pound car.

i think the added reliability for 5 pounds would be worth it, even more for those running n2o

plus the chances of it getting damaged would be for less for a cast unit

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Like I said, I never said one was better than the other. OP asked for thoughts on the cast mani and I said it was heavier, big deal.

Like I also said earlier, wieght ads up. 5lbs here 10 lbs there. Less work for your engine to accellerate, also less stress on your drivetrain. Less work for your brakes to stop you too.



I am in no way trying to steer anybody away from running a cast mani.




With a direct port setup you'd be less likely to kill an intake plenum with a N2O backfire anyways :D

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Dsm's never have nitrous back fires.

The thing is kinda ugly and it'd be cool to see a comparison between this and a jmf

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Especially when they forget to turn the nitrous bottle on for the 1st pull :lol:


























Sorry Brad, I couldn't resist

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i think shaved and polished it could be a very nice piece