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Matt D. 09-24-2009 08:53 AM

Indoctrination in our schools?
 
The very people trusted by parents to teach the nation's youth are instead brainwashing children to worship a false prophet. Watch the video and discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU

Also to note, the teacher leading the children definitely sounds black. Don't dare call me a racist, but it sure seems beyond coincidence.

CVD 09-24-2009 09:03 AM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
mmmm, creepy.

Kevin 1G Drummer 09-24-2009 09:45 AM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Wow, that's kinda bad....

goodhart 09-24-2009 10:09 AM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Wow, First taking the National Anthem out of schools, now this? WTF!

viridionplague 09-24-2009 02:24 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 306502)
The very people trusted by parents to teach the nation's youth are instead brainwashing children to worship a false prophet. Watch the video and discuss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aqMTD5UFmU

Also to note, the teacher leading the children definitely sounds black. Don't dare call me a racist, but it sure seems beyond coincidence.


btw the teacher is white, you can see the hands in the begining of the video.

and assuming that they are black based of subject material and voice, makes it a racist comment. if you dont want people to think your racist, dont say racist things.

"dont dare call me a racist" you make alot of comments like this. why dont you just say "if you say anything i dont like about me, im gonna ban you" cause thats how it comes off.

dumb_ricer 09-24-2009 02:51 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 306502)
Also to note, the teacher leading the children definitely sounds black. Don't dare call me a racist, but it sure seems beyond coincidence.

That statement is at the very least extreme prejudice, and I would go as far as calling it racism.

Matt D. 09-24-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306537)
btw the teacher is white, you can see the hands in the begining of the video.

and assuming that they are black based of subject material and voice, makes it a racist comment. if you dont want people to think your racist, dont say racist things.

"dont dare call me a racist" you make alot of comments like this. why dont you just say "if you say anything i dont like about me, im gonna ban you" cause thats how it comes off.

I'm not afraid to point out stereotypes, deal with it, but that in no way makes me racist. What does piss me off however is moving away from the subject at hand to personal jabs.

Ban because of opinions on an internet forum. If you say so. :)

viridionplague 09-24-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
sorry you didnt like it, i thought i would discuse the fact that the teacher was white and you were wrong

Matt D. 09-24-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306555)
sorry you didnt like it, i thought i would discuse the fact that the teacher was white and you were wrong

Sorry for not paying attention to the very far left side of the video for the first 5 seconds, I was focusing on what the kids were saying and reading the lyrics so their song. You know, the main reason I made this thread.

I'm wrong, the teacher is white.

viridionplague 09-24-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
you didnt point out a stereotype, you STEREOTYPED, the teacher, that makes you a racist

pointing out a black man eating chicken is pointing out a stereotype,

judging someone based on a stereotype is racism and prejudice

viridionplague 09-24-2009 03:15 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
i also believe that at the heart of the topic is racism, and thats the whole reason this video was even posted. what if it was a black school? would it have been posted then?

realisticly there is no difference from making someone say the national anthem. "one nation under god" not everyone believes in god, yet anyone is allowed to be in this country, and when i went to school, we were required to say it every day.

goodhart 09-24-2009 03:49 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Put your fucking race-cards away! If you don't realize that blacks and white's have differences in their voices you are just plain stupid. 75% of the whole racism problem isn't even prejudice, it all the fucking babies out there that say, "Why do you point your finger at me because I'm black?!?!" Race has nothing to do with shit half the time until some dumb ass drags into a conversation for no no good reason. Just because someone said so-and-so's voice sounded black makes them a racist?

You are remind me of this kid (for anyone who has seen the movie "Role Models")
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...modelspic5.jpg

Now, back on topic.

Matt D. 09-24-2009 03:54 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Keep trying. What does teaching students to worship a man have to do with race? Go ahead and start your own thread if you want to judge me so bad.

We all said the pledge of allegiance when we were that age because we didn't know any better. I would say it today if asked even though I don't believe in God. That doesn't make it right for teachers to make kids think our president is someone or something he is not.

Matt D. 09-24-2009 03:55 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 306574)
Put your fucking race-cards away! If you don't realize that blacks and white's have differences in their voices you are just plain stupid. 75% of the whole racism problem isn't even prejudice, it all the fucking babies out there that say, "Why do you point your finger at me because I'm black?!?!" Race has nothing to do with shit half the time until some dumb ass drags into a conversation for no no good reason. Just because someone said so-and-so's voice sounded black makes them a racist?

You are remind me of this kid (for anyone who has seen the movie "Role Models")

Now, back on topic.

Awesome, someone who has a clue. Thank you.

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:12 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
just because people have a diffrent sound in there voice dosent make it right to say there black just because of it.

""Also to note, the teacher leading the children definitely sounds black. Don't dare call me a racist, but it sure seems beyond coincidence.""

assuming someone is black based on voice, then also saying "sure seems beyond coincidence" thinking that they are black, and they are teaching children to sing a song about a black guy.

basically he is saying "imagine that, a black person taking advantage of children to brainwash them into worshiping a black person"

that is racist, and that is what is ment by this statement

"Also to note, the teacher leading the children definitely sounds black. Don't dare call me a racist, but it sure seems beyond coincidence."

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 306574)
Put your fucking race-cards away! If you don't realize that blacks and white's have differences in their voices you are just plain stupid. 75% of the whole racism problem isn't even prejudice, it all the fucking babies out there that say, "Why do you point your finger at me because I'm black?!?!" Race has nothing to do with shit half the time until some dumb ass drags into a conversation for no no good reason. Just because someone said so-and-so's voice sounded black makes them a racist?


the OP brings up the subject of race by automatically assuming its a black teacher brainwashing the kids into worshiping a black man, otherwise it wouldnt be coincidence

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:21 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
btw he is also not a prophet is any way shape or form

1. A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed.
2. A person gifted with profound moral insight and exceptional powers of expression.
3. A predictor; a soothsayer.

those are definitions of prophet

he is the president elect not a prophet

and yes, now im just nit picking

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 306574)
Put your fucking race-cards away! If you don't realize that blacks and white's have differences in their voices you are just plain stupid. 75% of the whole racism problem isn't even prejudice, it all the fucking babies out there that say, "Why do you point your finger at me because I'm black?!?!" Race has nothing to do with shit half the time until some dumb ass drags into a conversation for no no good reason. Just because someone said so-and-so's voice sounded black makes them a racist?

btw im white, i dont have a race card to play

Matt D. 09-24-2009 04:24 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306577)
the OP brings up the subject of race by automatically assuming its a black teacher brainwashing the kids into worshiping a black man, otherwise it wouldnt be coincidence

Now you keep furthering the discussion about race. What's the deal? I didn't automatically assume, I took the facts given to me and made my judgment. I didn't see the hands on the left side of the video until you pointed it out and I admitted that. Yet you're convinced that I'm racist? The black guy is in the White House, which is behind us, but now if you criticize him or his supporters that makes you a racist? The left wingers are still out in force I see.

Kevin 1G Drummer 09-24-2009 04:25 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
OMG!!! Matt D is a racist! hahahahaha

Matt D. 09-24-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306579)
he is the president elect not a prophet

1. Obama became president on January 20, 2009 at noon. It has been over 8 months since he was President-elect of the United States.
2. That is why the term "false prophet" is used. People are making him out to be something (a prophet) that he is not.

Thank you, please try again.

http://www.rozzwell.com/crap/wavingkitty.gif

goodhart 09-24-2009 04:30 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306577)
just because people have a different sound in there voice doesn't make it right to say there black just because of it.

So because she's got something wrong with her cause she's black? Who's the racist now ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306577)
the OP brings up the subject of race by automatically assuming its a black teacher brainwashing the kids into worshiping a black man, otherwise it wouldnt be coincidence

He mentioned the fact that the teacher was black completely after the fact. What is it about stereotypes that makes you so butt-hurt anyways? It's a fact of life, get over it.

Here's an example, do you think the owner of this car is white or black?
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/m...um/CAPRICE.jpg

Now ask yourself the same question while looking at this photo:
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/n...mBFL/Truck.jpg



I'm not racist, I am just pointing out the facts here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306577)
btw im white, i dont have a race card to play

You can be white all you want, but you're still throwing the race card dude.

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
im not saying your a racist, but that your making racist comments

saying "dont call me a racist" then making a racist comment......

if you dont wanna be called a racist, dont make racist comments

goodhart 09-24-2009 04:37 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Wow, I better not say anybody's voice sounds black or I'll be a racist too!

Tachyon 09-24-2009 04:39 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/6512/...leFacePalm.jpg

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:43 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
to be a false prophet, you have to call yourself a prophet then be wrong. barrack did not call himself a prophet, thats a title givin to him by stupid people.


"So because she's got something wrong with her cause she's black? Who's the racist now "
who said there was something wrong with the teacher?

viridionplague 09-24-2009 04:46 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
saying someone is black based on voice is a stereotype.

saying that its "beyond coincidence" that the teacher is "black" and brainwashing students to worship a black man, makes it racist.


btw im removing myself from further posting in this thread, because you guys either dont understand what im trying to point out, or are just to try to make irrelevant points

Febo 09-24-2009 04:57 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
::sigh:: I dont see how this is "worship" or making him out to be a "prophet".

Time for the break down.

Mm, mmm, mm! (sounds like a cambels soup commercial)
Barack Hussein Obama (the presidents name)

He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again (Stop sitting on your effin asses and work)
Mmm, mmm, mm! ( more soup)
Barack Hussein Obama (again the presidents name)

He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay (this is no different then the early 1900's when women were bitching for the right to vote and equal pay, I do disagree if this is in support of illegal immigrants making as much as me)
Mmm, mmm, mm! (soup)
Barack Hussein Obama (Holy shit, is that his name again, of fuck, he must be a prophet now)

He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance (White folks included in this, especially since its white kids singing the shit)
Mmm, mmm, mm! (I think soup is the actual prophet here)
Barack Hussein Obama (wait... or maybe its Obama Christ)

He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight (pretty sure it says this in our constitution, in a way, you unpatriotic commie hicks)
Mmm, mmm, mm! (Yep, Jesus Chickin Noodle is my new prophet)
Barack Hussein Obama (Go away MuhObama)

Yes! (A form of agreement)
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama


Now, the break down of song two:

Hello, Mr. President we honor you today! (As they rightfully should, hes the mutha effin president)
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!" (He was the first black president, pretty freaking amazing)

Hooray, Mr. President! You're number one! (In a figure of speech he is, he does run the country)
The first black American to lead this great nation! (a little redundant)

Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country's economy number one again! (pretty sure this should be everyones plan, if you dont agree, go take a toaster bath cuz your probablly a flag burner and dont deserve to be in this country)

Hooray Mr. President, we're really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue! (More patriotism, so go eff yourself, for real)

So continue ---- Mr. President we know you'll do the trick
So here's a hearty hip-hooray ---- (Uhm, even more FAITH and PATRIOTISM for their country and president? I think so)

Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray! (this shit was common in the 1700's so naturally its the freaking devil now a days)

You all need to spend less time with freaking conspiracies and "Indoctrination" and go spend more time watching something like South Park, versus Fox News.

Febo 09-24-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Oh and just to throw my whole hat into the racism thing.

Matt D... what exactly does a black person sound like? Apparently to you, its New Jersey accent. Or were you implying that she sounded "ghetto" cuz pretty sure I know a few black women, and people, who sound "white" if there is such a thing, and I know EVEN more white people who sound like a damn inner city rap group.

Soooo...... while maybe not being "racist" you are just being ignorant, and its small little shit like that, that leads to prejudice, hate, and even more ignorance. So even saying something like that is just setting yourself up for failure.

Also, the whole National Anthem being removed from school is because people have too many effin opinions. I dont care if you believe in god or not, if you believe in the damn country you'll say the effin pledge, if you dont believe in the country, GTFO.

311evo 09-24-2009 05:26 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
UHgg..

IMO, OP was not racist at all. Comming from MN a new jersey accent does in fact sound like an african american "accent". I'm not sure if accent is even the right word, but it seems that some people (black and white, but more common with african americans) have a self-appoint slang style speech.

This should not be in schools, that is a fact. Which is what the OP posted. How typical for the race card to be played when someone is upset about something to do with Obama. It's just ignorant and dumb to not see the stupidity behind this.

And it's also ignorent and Dumb to think Matt. D is racist. STFU already.

Febo 09-24-2009 05:30 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Again, what is an "african american accent"

your not exactly extinguishing the dumb flames here, just kinda throwing more ignorant gas on the fire. Just saying.

Also, why cant the kids praise the president in school? Replace Barrack Obama with George Bush and you fuckers would be eating this shit up with a side of America Fries and American Apple Pie. Get over it already.

goodhart 09-24-2009 05:31 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RLFebo (Post 306604)
Matt D... what exactly does a black person sound like?

Stupid question, every single person reading this knows damn well that whites, blacks, yellows, every other damn race, sound different in our voices with very few exceptions. Talk to someone on the phone and you can almost always tell within 30 seconds what a persons race is. Quit trying to make him look racist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLFebo (Post 306608)
Again, what is an "african american accent"

So are you saying that all people sound exactly the same regardless of race? Because that would be the dumbest thing I've heard all day

311evo 09-24-2009 05:33 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
RLFebo, you talk about patriotism but them your a supporter of Obama?!?! wtf. Many of the Obama-supporters I am friends with are the people who commonly talk about how they hate america, and how dumb we are. (not my words.)

Your kind of a giant hypocrite to yourself.

311evo 09-24-2009 05:35 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RLFebo (Post 306608)
Again, what is an "african american accent"

Again, are you fucking retarded or just ignorant?

A//// Guy 09-24-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
:pc:

Kracka 09-24-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Awesome. White people calling other white people racist, no wonder this country has gotten so fucked up and the media loses focus so quickly when it comes to REAL topics.

Guess what, I have news for everyone, black, white, yellow, brown, we're all racist to one extent or another! If you say otherwise you're either ignorant or just plain dumb. Playing the race card no matter what color you are is just an excuse to drag the focus away from the real issue at hand when you either feel threatened or have nothing productive to say.

Kracka 09-24-2009 05:46 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by viridionplague (Post 306595)
btw im removing myself from further posting in this thread, because you guys either dont understand what im trying to point out, or are just to try to make irrelevant points

Basically what you've done from the beginning?

Kracka 09-24-2009 05:56 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Now, back on topic where this thread should have stayed all along, videos like this make me sick. Like it or not he is the president of the US and should be acknowledged as such, but he should not be held on this pedestal as our savior that his follows have made him out to be. Hopefully these kids parents are smart enough to make sure this stops. Politics have no place in school and honestly I think it shouldn't even be discussed since children are so impressionable and it would be nearly impossible for the teacher to present both sides equally without at least a little bias to one side or the other. Same thing with religion, it has no place in school since its all opinion based.

goodhart 09-24-2009 05:59 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Funny thing, this video was in the "related videos" sidebar while watching the original video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1DCE...eature=related

Kind of scary comparison, though I doubt history would repeat itself in this situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLFebo (Post 306626)
What Im saying is I've been around plenty of people, who are white and "sound" black, and who are black and "sound" white, as well as asians who "sound" mexican. So my point is, that by going off of purely voice is retarded. Call me ignorant or whatever all you want, but I wait to pass my judgements on people until I've interacted with them.

But for 95% of people you can tell their race within 30 seconds of hearing their voice.

Febo 09-24-2009 06:01 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
What Im saying is I've been around plenty of people, who are white and "sound" black, and who are black and "sound" white, as well as asians who "sound" mexican. So my point is, that by going off of purely voice is retarded. Call me ignorant or whatever all you want, but I wait to pass my judgements on people until I've interacted with them. For all you know that teacher was as Conservative as they come and left it up to the kids to think this song up.

Again, since none of you seem to have an answer to my question what does a black man or woman "sound like"? Whats the matter here? I mean if you can't describe it then so be it, but either way, to say someone is a certain race off of how they sound is ignorant. Its assumptions allllll the way around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodhart (Post 306625)
But for 95% of people you can tell their race within 30 seconds of hearing their voice.

Ive been proven wrong to many times to believe this anymore.

Febo 09-24-2009 06:05 PM

Re: Indoctrination in our schools?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kracka (Post 306622)
Now, back on topic where this thread should have stayed all along, videos like this make me sick. Like it or not he is the president of the US and should be acknowledged as such, but he should not be held on this pedestal as our savior that his follows have made him out to be. Hopefully these kids parents are smart enough to make sure this stops. Politics have no place in school and honestly I think it shouldn't even be discussed since children are so impressionable and it would be nearly impossible for the teacher to present both sides equally without at least a little bias to one side or the other. Same thing with religion, it has no place in school since its all opinion based.

I remember in my 5th grade class we discussed politics, and compared presidents, and asked us who we would vote for and why. I voted for Clinton, cuz he was the shit. I also said the pledge, with the word god in it, and also had moments of silence so the kids who wanted to pray could. Me being agnostic, I just sat and doodled. I dont see why everyone is so eager to strip one persons rights just to appease another persons. If an athiest doesnt wanna say under god, he can just have that censorship pause in his pledge, or say water, or some shit. But say the damn pledge. Again, all you people have to many fucking opinions of what is "right" and "wrong"

News flash,

Not everyone is Relgious
Not everyone thinks Jesus is real
Not everyone is a conservative
Not everyone is a liberal
Not everyone is an athiest
Not everyone is white
Not everyone is black
And most peoples opinions dont matter.
Like mine, its just an opinion, and opinion of tolerance. Tolerate the shit that irks you and revel in the shit that you enjoy.


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