Why we love Ted Nugent
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XDfpcFCejo&hd=1

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I don't think he's weird... I agree that the 2nd amendment couldn't be more clear, and how people have argued about its meaning just shows that the amendments are worthless cause if they want to they can take it out of context and change it anyway. It should be noted that I'm not some gun freak either. I don't even own 1 gun, but I think the right to own them should not be taken away.

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more like , is there really any reason we DONT like ted nugent? hes the shit!

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My heroes:

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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HiFfl7vp8q...ran+torino.jpg

oh yea,

Ted Nugent 2012!!!

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I have always liked Ted Nugent. There is only one problem with this arguement... He is speaking as if it were a perfect world and that everyone lives happily in harmony except a bunch of baddies, but he speaks as if the baddies have no access to guns. So yes, it would have been great had the woman been able to shoot the baddie in the face, but what if he pulls the gun first? is she going to say "please hold on sir while i pull out my gun so this can be a fair fight?" or maybe she will just walk around with her gun and point it at everyone she sees as they may have a gun and want to kill her.
Im not saying Ban all guns, I love going up to my parents and shooting off rounds. its relaxing. But there needs to be regulations in place (like there are) where felons and ex cons will not have access to guns, or crazy people, maybe do a mental test prior to owning a gun. Im not a policy maker so i dont know how they can do this, but it seems a lot of these people saying "THERE GONNA TAKE OUR GUNS OMG!!!" arent realizing that guns arent just used for hunting, they are used to kill people every day, whether it be in the hoods with gangstas, or suburban man just going off the wall and killing his wife.
end rant. Time to go shoot something.

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Tom, while I understand your thoughts on this, we've got to stop penalizing good people, just because of the bad people. This is getting ridiculous.

As far as I'm concerned, if you have a criminal record, you should be forced by law to give up your rights to guns, period. If you have a criminal record and are caught with a gun, you should get a life sentence without the possibility of parole. If you have a criminal record and are then convicted of a crime while in possession of a gun, your ass should just be taken out back and shot!!! End of story. This "but the criminal is really the victim here" crap has got to stop!!!

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The shitty thing is that whenever the government tries to regulate gun rights, they aren't affecting the bad guys at all. They will get guns regardless because they have no regard for the law. When guns are regulated, it only hurts the innocent people, because then they can no longer protect themselves against those who have no regard for the law in the first place.

That is all.

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Exactly.

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+1

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Another few reasons to love Ted Nugent


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMZwS0ZonEU&hd=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopqfl1srpk&hd=1

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+2

Even if there was a complete ban on guns, people would still be killing people. It's not like because we have guns, someone decides they are just going to kill someone one day.

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I totally agree with you vicious, but there are a couple problems with your statements:
1. Criminals that have guns are usually not registered weapons, at least not registered to themselves.
2. Banning guns or any arms is against the same right to bear arms as you are fighting to protect. And where do you draw the line where someone is exempt from the constitution. And if someone is exempt from this one amendment, then when will the gov start banning freedom of speech etc.
The constitution that you all are so gung ho at protecting, is the same constitution that you are now saying should not apply to some citizens.
When regulations are put in place for all guns, its so that the constitution stays in tact, "All men are created equal..." means all men, it wasnt stated "All men (except for people who have commited a crime) are created equal"

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Tom, I'll make it easy for you to understand:

If you are a law abiding citizen, you deserve every right guaranteed to you by The Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

As soon as you cross that line, you should be stripped of that privilege. And I'm not talking about jay walking or throwing trash on the highway, I'm talking about a crime against another human being.

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Quoting FTMFT


But wait wait... Weren't you just all about punishing an entire culture by disallowing them to join the military, based on the actions of just "the bad people"?

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Yes

good people = law abiding citizens
bad people = brain washed suicidal terrorist and criminals

Take it how ever you like it.

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If you commit a crime, you waive your constitutional rights, not that hard to figure out. If you're in jail for a crime, you obviously don't have your liberties afforded by the constitution. So trying to make the argument that all people should have guns however utopian that may sound, doesn't work because crime=punishment. Or these days, a warm bunk, cable TV, three squares a day, and a free law degree if you so desire. We really should go back to public hangings, no better crime deterrent out there.

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Exactly.

A couple months ago you said punish a culture/religion (both those good and bad), based on the actions of the bad extremists.

Now you say enough is enough, don't punish the good people based on the actions of the few bad ones.

I'm confused, but that's not all that abnormal.

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Ok so by crimes you mean violence against other people correct? So you MUST mean Knife attacks. Because no crazy person or bad person with a clean record would ever own a gun, thats only for the upstanding white citizens.... wait... am i missing something?
Stop acting like people with clean records (Non violent offenses include, theft, stealing a car, etc) will not commit crimes that include guns.
There is nothing the government can do to prevent gun violence other than put regulations on ALL weapons. Like i said before, i love shooting guns, but regardless of how many guns i have, if someone wants to shoot me, i will not be able to stop them if they pull the gun first.

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Yes you are confused and yes I still don't think we should let extremist Muslims in our military while we are fighting a war with extremist Muslims.

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See Tom, you and your way of thinking are what's wrong in America. We have the right to bare arms for sport, self defense of ourselves and our property, hunting, etc. Every natrual born citizen in this country is guaranteed that. But with that right comes the requirement and expectation of being a law abiding citizen. Unfortunately, you can't tell who will become a felon or criminal until they break the law (unless they are a brainwashed Muslim extremist). But since this country has turned into a "nanny" state, it's fair to punish the law abiding citizen while the criminal is breaks the law. Maybe we should outlaw box cutters, aerosol sprays, plastic knives, etc while we're at it.

Bottom line, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

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I just heard a quote from Obama saying "I probably will never shoot a bear." I instantly thought about this thread! haha! I'm still laughing!

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This is really contradicting. If its a Right, then no matter if you are a criminal or not you are allowed the right to own a gun. What you are explaining in the above statement is a Privilege. Privileges like driving can be taken away by the state.
In your thought process Freedom of Speech, the right to pursue happiness, freedom of the press are all rights that can be taken away if you commit a crime.
We can go back and forth on this whole thing. And while you may think my thinking is whats wrong with this country, i believe just the opposite. I believe that if people want to own a gun, a thorough background check, and a MENTAL exam should be a requirement. (which would unfortunately rule out a lot of those retarded tea party members, and most of the south... LOL)

Really, I dont give a flying fuck whether I am able to own a gun or not. Its not something I'm going to cry about, as if there are less guns on the street or in the cities, there is less of a chance of myself or my family getting robbed/murdered by a very dangerous weapon. And while yes "guns dont kill people, People kill people" The gun is a very effective tool at doing so, Ive also never heard of a gun growing legs and running after people shooting innocent citizens, There is always a person standing behind it.
This discussion is just stupid and will never end.

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A ban on guns will not make it so there are no guns on the street. Like what was posted before, a ban on guns would only affect the good citizens who follow the rules and will not allow them to protect themselves and family in certain situations. If you want a gun bad enough, you will ALWAYS be able to get one, legally or not.

So is a knife, baseball bat, sledgehammer, chainsaw, car, etc.

Maybe we should ban everything that can be used as a weapon.

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Tom is a carebear political follower, such discussions like this will go nowhere with people like him involved.

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Agreed.

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Maybe we should just ban Tom!!

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GTFO!!

Done :)

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:rollinglaugh:

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You were on the bandwagon of saying to disallow Muslims in the military, based on the actions of the extremists. Pot meet kettle.

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Still on that band wagon, don't plan on getting off it either. Expecting Muslims to go and fight a "holy" war against other Muslims and not have conflicts of interest gets you what happened at that military base. Doesn't even compare to the subject at hand.

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Haaha so sweet! The sweet "sounds" of liberal silence!

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Why is there even an argument about if we allow non felons to have guns, the constitution says we have to let felons too. Once you commit a crime (specially a felony) you waive that right, and this is not news, its been this way for a long time. I agree that putting all these restrictions on buying guns only hurts the rest of us that follow the rules, especially when the restriction is only in a specific city... Bad guy can't buy guns in DC... huh, guess he will have to drive a lil bit farther.

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Oh, and how is Vicious a band wagon jumper by suggesting that we not allow the enemy to join our ranks and then turn on us once we've accepted them? Sounds like a good idea to me. Pretty sure having to let all these questionable people in to the military is an american idea. Probably a no-brainer anywhere else.

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What I'm saying is simple. You're words completely contradict themselves. That's all, just pointing it out.

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I'm not saying don't allow the enemy to join the military, nor am I saying don't allow those with bad backrounds join the military. What I'm saying, is to completely disallow an entire culture, simply based off religion/skin color/etc is something i don't agree with.

But I'm not getting into that arguement here. What I'm saying is Mr. Viscous was one of the ones who was all about punishing that entire culture by not allowing them into the military, based on the actions of "the bad ones". Then he is on here contradicting himself, saying that we need to stop punishing others based on the actions of the bad ones.

The end,
Halon Out!!