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awd-drifter 01-25-2011 05:35 PM

BOV Fluttering?
 
Is this fluttering? This is all under vacuum and not on boost. It spent a good 15 minutes getting warmed up.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW3H3XH2I2A&hd=1

Car is not tuned yet, I just started it up because it hasn't been started during these cold winter nights. When I was putting the 2g mas+intake in, the turbo had EXTREMELY small in and out play, probably not even notable. No side to side either. I know it isn't recirculated and I probably won't recirculate it till the snow melts because that's when I'll get it tuned.

EDIT:
Here's the second video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCtcz9SSbMY&hd=1

CornFed2.4 01-25-2011 05:50 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
link doesn't work. Malformed video I.D. was the message I got.

awd-drifter 01-25-2011 06:01 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
try it now. ....tried to embed it but probably used the wrong code.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-25-2011 06:12 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Is the BOV return hole on the intake blocked off and I can't see it? It looks open in that video.

19TsiAwd90 01-25-2011 07:26 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
thats some serious flutter man check your hoses going to the bov
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 371788)
Is the BOV return hole on the intake blocked off and I can't see it? It looks open in that video.

doesn't look like it is to me =/

awd-drifter 01-25-2011 08:16 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 371788)
Is the BOV return hole on the intake blocked off and I can't see it? It looks open in that video.

there's 2 of those vacuum hoses on the bov and i have the top hose from the bov connected going to the intake manifold and just left the bottom one open. as for the intake pipe itself, I also haven't plugged the 2 other holes so nothing else is connected to the intake pipe.

19TsiAwd90 01-25-2011 08:23 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by awd-drifter (Post 371802)
there's 2 of those vacuum hoses on the bov and i have the top hose from the bov connected going to the intake manifold and just left the bottom one open. pipe.

thats where the issue is they both have to be connected and im pretty sure you can just connect them both to the same source

GsXtUrBo98 01-25-2011 08:29 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
^ or block one off.. Pretty sure I blocked off the Greddy S that I had..

awd-drifter 01-25-2011 08:38 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
hmm, yeah, that would make sense to block off the lower one.

19TsiAwd90 01-25-2011 08:57 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
one might be for a higher boost setting so try it on the other one too

asshanson 01-25-2011 09:01 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
You have to plug the BOV return on the intake pipe otherwise you are letting in unmetered air. Even if you dont recirc the BOV you have to plug that hole in the intake.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-25-2011 09:03 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Leave the lower port open, so that the diaphragm can move up and down freely. And you need to plug that open hole in the intake after the MAF.

123abc 01-26-2011 08:24 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
That's all compressor surge. Where do you have the BOV vacuum hose hooked up? The BOV isn't even moving.

Shane@DBPerformance 01-26-2011 09:09 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Is it an ebay bov?

Kevin 1G Drummer 01-26-2011 10:15 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123abc (Post 371847)
That's all compressor surge.

What? No it's not.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCj6Spwl1CU&hd=1

awd-drifter 01-26-2011 10:41 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shane@DBPerformance (Post 371850)
Is it an ebay bov?

yep...yep it is :( this is possibly a reason why also.

I really doubt it is compressor surge because if it was, i'm quite sure i can play with the compressor wheel but thankfully it isn't like that.

goodhart 01-26-2011 11:49 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 371866)


x a million. Does nobody know what true compressor surge is??????

Matt D. 01-26-2011 12:39 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123abc (Post 371847)
That's all compressor surge. Where do you have the BOV vacuum hose hooked up? The BOV isn't even moving.

That is not compressor surge. Compressor surge only happens under load when the turbo is near peak efficiency. See Kevin's video.

Your BOV is fluttering, but it's nothing to worry about as long as it holds boost. You can screw down the bolt on top of the BOV to give it more tension and that will help prevent the fluttering and cause it to only be open or closed. To be honest, as long as the car runs fine, drives fine and the BOV doesn't leak then it can act however it wants.

munchgsx 01-26-2011 03:23 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
It doesn't appear it is opening at all. You sure you vac reference is hooked up correctly.

s1ngletracker 01-27-2011 06:49 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
doesn't having a non-opening BOV still put unnecessary stress on the turbo?

123abc 01-27-2011 08:01 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

x a million. Does nobody know what true compressor surge is??????
How is it the bov fluttering when the bov is not even moving?

Matt D. 01-27-2011 09:09 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
I'm pretty sure the BOV doesn't open much if at all when revving the engine freely.

123abc 01-27-2011 09:46 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 371956)
I'm pretty sure the BOV doesn't open much if at all when revving the engine freely.

Mine is very visible when free revving from under the hood....

s1ngletracker 01-27-2011 10:14 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
maybe I missed it... was he saying it opens under load? I would agree that it not opening during a free-rev isn't really something to be concerned about. I dont think I've ever had a car that does.

goodhart 01-27-2011 10:20 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by s1ngletracker (Post 371963)
maybe I missed it... was he saying it opens under load? I would agree that it not opening during a free-rev isn't really something to be concerned about. I dont think I've ever had a car that does.

This. Me either, my cars have always had to be under some kind of load.

s1ngletracker 01-27-2011 10:23 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
I mean, I suppose maybe if i had free-revved it to redline perhaps. But why would you want to do that? I have never felt the need to show off that much.

awd-drifter 01-27-2011 11:10 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
This is just free rev in the videos, I'm just free revving it to around 3-3.5k but definitely not enough for boost. I'm sure if do keep revving like I'm going to launch it will hit boost but I do not at all want to hit boost because of being un-tuned. It's just that I've never heard of my car doing this. It still concerns me because could it possible damage my turbo sooner or later? Is the air going back to the turbo making this sound? I will slap on the 1g bov soon and update it with another video. I will also plug all the holes in the intake after the mas also just to see if the blindly cures anything.

19TsiAwd90 01-27-2011 11:26 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
yeah it shouldt be fluttering but i dont think it would do damage, whats wrong with a stock 1g bov?

awd-drifter 01-27-2011 11:30 AM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
nothing is wrong with the 1g bov. just gotta drill in the holes on it so it will mount on to the greddy flange

Kevin 1G Drummer 01-27-2011 12:13 PM

Re: BOV Fluttering?
 
It should be just fine. The Tial I had on my dsm did that with anything under 11psi, and I never had any signs of premature wear on the two turbos I had on it in 3 years.


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