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scheides 03-11-2011 02:38 PM

Crazy tsunami damage from quake in japan
 
I love living in MN!

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...-japan/100022/

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/in...0_RTR2JQVV.jpg

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/in...5_RTR2JQXZ.jpg

Matt D. 03-11-2011 02:43 PM

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Awesome collection of first hand videos from there: http://gizmodo.com/#!5780964/the-jap...-updating-live

scheides 03-11-2011 02:55 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTJy5mWejA&hd=1

Halon 03-11-2011 03:02 PM

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Damn, thats nuts. That fireball would have been an awesome sight.

awd-drifter 03-11-2011 03:13 PM

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insane.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/...41_634x792.jpg

niterydr 03-11-2011 03:14 PM

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Its sad watching the video and seeing the cars trying to speed away.
Thoughts and prayers to all of those affected by the tragic quake.

A//// Guy 03-11-2011 03:19 PM

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Yea all this is so mind boggling. Amazing but also so scary and sad.

Matt D. 03-11-2011 04:09 PM

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The closest thing any of us have gotten to something like this is localized flooding and tornadoes. We'd be shell shocked if something this massive happened here.

95talonracer 03-11-2011 04:36 PM

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Thoughts and prayers to all that are being or have been affected by this disaster.

Halon 03-11-2011 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt D. (Post 376233)
The closest thing any of us have gotten to something like this is localized flooding and tornadoes. We'd be shell shocked if something this massive happened here.

Hey meow, some of us have ventured well outside MN and seen more than that...

100mph typhoon (hurricane) winds on a tiny japanese island, wearing a trash bag rain suit and chem goggles is a memory of mine that comes to mind :) We'd see something like 3 typhoons / year on that island. Thing is the cities are built for it, so damage was minimal.

At-Least-It's-An-Evo 03-11-2011 05:20 PM

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Man, that Tsunami really f'd Japan up... I wonder how many performance manufacturers got fuck'd.

NOT THE BLUE LAMPSHADE 03-11-2011 08:06 PM

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you mean i cant get overnight parts from japan anymore?!

err..... or temporarily?!

polishmafia 03-11-2011 10:34 PM

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^A little soon for that.

Thoughts and prayers go out to everyone effected.

1ViciousGSX 03-11-2011 11:11 PM

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Here's some crazy shit, read this:

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Jap...617/story.html

* 100+ aftershocks have rated 5.0 magnitude or more in Japan since the initial shake.

* Earth's axis has reportedly shifted ten inches as a result of the quake, and Japan's coast is said to have permanently shifted 2.4 metres.

* The quake was 900 times stronger than the quake that hammered San Francisco in 1989.


My Jack Russel Terrier woke me up around the same time this happened early this morning. He started run around and barking at nothing, then came and sat next to me with his ear at attention. I didn't know what was up until I heard the morning news hours later. I'm in Louisiana and he picks up on it. Animals are amazing with the things they can sense.

cmspaz 03-12-2011 01:45 AM

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Tokyo Tower stood up pretty well, but the antenna on top didn't fair the same: http://www.jiji.com/jc/d4?d=d4_topic...00-jlp10575297

There's apparently video from the lower observation deck as well.

tpunx99GSX 03-12-2011 09:23 AM

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Why are there still so many people wearing face masks. Is SARS still an issue over there?

Gravy 03-12-2011 10:41 AM

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Not as large as it use to. But the reason they are wearing face masks is you now have sewage, dead biddies and other chemicals from plants and garages all mixing with the ocean water. I was actually listening to a "Green" program a while back and they brought up a good point. People like us, who work on cars and have plenty of chemicals around, can add lots of pollution after a natural event. All those chemicals in your garage, break clean, extra oil for the next change, paint and other cleaning chemicals all get massively dumped after an event like this. Soiling ground water shortly after an even making it hazardous to drink.

Not to mention Japan is a developed country with plenty of business that use large amounts of chemicals for production. That country will be in trouble for some time.

niterydr 03-12-2011 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravy (Post 376269)
Not as large as it use to. But the reason they are wearing face masks is you now have sewage, dead biddies and other chemicals from plants and garages all mixing with the ocean water. I was actually listening to a "Green" program a while back and they brought up a good point. People like us, who work on cars and have plenty of chemicals around, can add lots of pollution after a natural event. All those chemicals in your garage, break clean, extra oil for the next change, paint and other cleaning chemicals all get massively dumped after an event like this. Soiling ground water shortly after an even making it hazardous to drink.

Not to mention Japan is a developed country with plenty of business that use large amounts of chemicals for production. That country will be in trouble for some time.

My thoughts exactly regarding the future of the company. I cannot fathom the cost and time it will take to restore that country to where it was on say the Tuesday before the quake.

Goat Blower 03-12-2011 01:33 PM

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Yeah, that's really sad, there's just no way to prepare for something like that, no warning and in the middle of the night. Prayers out to all that are affected.

95talonracer 03-12-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Goat Blower (Post 376278)
Yeah, that's really sad, there's just no way to prepare for something like that, no warning and in the middle of the night. Prayers out to all that are affected.

Didnt it happen in the afternoon?

Matt D. 03-12-2011 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 95talonracer (Post 376288)
Didnt it happen in the afternoon?

Yes. It was broad daylight.

polishmafia 03-13-2011 03:55 AM

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Prayers to all those affected by the quake. But...

If those reactors blow, I'm ready to kill some zombies.

http://www.submiturpics.com/images/6...l1l04snvk8.jpg

95talonracer 03-13-2011 09:27 AM

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^ What is the chance of this happening?

cmspaz 03-13-2011 11:29 AM

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Link to demonstrate the extent of the damage: http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/ja...eforeafter.htm

LingLing 03-13-2011 11:41 AM

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When stuff like this happens it really puts things in to perspective. We are lucky in the sense that we don't have to deal with stuff like this.

Can't help but to feel like I should do something.

http://www.globalgiving.org/projects...sunami-relief/

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-13-2011 12:49 PM

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Not good :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KknHVL43YJ0&hd=1

LingLing 03-13-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin 1G Drummer (Post 376330)

Does that mean that the entire plant is in meltdown mode?

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-13-2011 01:25 PM

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From what I understand, that wasn't one of the containment facilities, but I guess there are 2 of the 4 reactors that are in meltdown there.

Halon 03-13-2011 01:41 PM

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Crazy stuff going on at that plant. It's definitely not good, but at the same time all the media speculation is a little bit annoying for me.

LingLing 03-13-2011 01:43 PM

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Damn....I hope they can contain any radiation leaks if there are any.

Halon 03-13-2011 01:56 PM

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They said that the core (vessel) is still in tact. So far it seems like the core is doing what it's supposed to and still containing what is inside of it. Hopefully they can keep it that way. I'm curious as to where the spent fuel is stored in this plants design.

A//// Guy 03-13-2011 08:54 PM

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They are not in meltdown yet. They are still trying to cool the core down using seawater. Well see what happens, hopefully they can prevent total meltdown, from what they say its pretty unlikely this will happen but who knows the truth.

Reactor info: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110313/...nuclear_crisis

Also just looking at the pictures of the damage. Im totally in shock as to the damage. I knew it was going to be bad but holy crap. I really feel like I could do something to, all I can do is donate though. :( Feel so helpless.

Kevin 1G Drummer 03-13-2011 11:23 PM

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Another crazy video. I was waiting for fire and demons to start coming up!

http://www.dump.com/2011/03/12/crazy...e-quake-video/

DoughtCom 03-13-2011 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by polishmafia (Post 376318)
Prayers to all those affected by the quake. But...

If those reactors blow, I'm ready to kill some zombies.

http://www.submiturpics.com/images/6...l1l04snvk8.jpg

This pic was reported as a hoax btw everyone, 750 rads would kill someone fairly quickly.

http://bhalomanush.posterous.com/my-...-fallout-map-h

Gravy 03-14-2011 02:52 AM

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Melt down isn't likely to happen, it is possible but they build in fail safes for stuff like this. But a 9.8 is REALLY hard to simulate in full scale. The fact that they made it this far is a sign of our species ability to design and build something.

As long as they can keep the core cool, and most of the time the extra fuel rods are stored in containers like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_JhruRobRI
For reasons such as this earthquake. They are used for transportation and from what I read a few years back they are often moved into similar housings on the facility and or the actual transport containers. When was the last time you saw something mess up the front of a train?

If they do melt down our impact in the states here will probably be the same as going tanning in a tanning both once more per year. But it's something to be said about the amount of radioactivity that will be in that country for years, decades or even a century or two to come if they have one or more melt downs. Say goodbye to nuclear power ever being built in the US now as well because of this scare.

rose0529 03-14-2011 07:57 AM

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interesting pictures from CNN, before and after shots.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...ex.html?hpt=C2

Matt D. 03-14-2011 09:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravy (Post 376420)
Melt down isn't likely to happen, it is possible but they build in fail safes for stuff like this. But a 9.8 is REALLY hard to simulate in full scale. The fact that they made it this far is a sign of our species ability to design and build something.

As long as they can keep the core cool, and most of the time the extra fuel rods are stored in containers like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_JhruRobRI
For reasons such as this earthquake. They are used for transportation and from what I read a few years back they are often moved into similar housings on the facility and or the actual transport containers. When was the last time you saw something mess up the front of a train?

If they do melt down our impact in the states here will probably be the same as going tanning in a tanning both once more per year. But it's something to be said about the amount of radioactivity that will be in that country for years, decades or even a century or two to come if they have one or more melt downs. Say goodbye to nuclear power ever being built in the US now as well because of this scare.

They can not keep the cores cool, the cooling systems failed hence the explosions that have already occurred.

Japan battles nuclear meltdown - http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e6600348-4...#axzz1Ga21xFZU
Nuclear fuel rods fully exposed at Japan reactor - http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...00733720110314
Japan Nuclear Plant Troubles Deepen - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

From the last article...
Quote:

The explosion took place Monday morning at the No. 3 reactor of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, the same place where a failure to cool overheated fuel rods at the No. 1 reactor resulted in a similar blast on Saturday. That explosion also damaged a pump used to bring in sea water for added cooling, the government's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency said at a briefing Monday evening. The agency said the fuel rods at the No. 3 reactor are now fused together.
They are in very, very deep trouble.

Halon 03-14-2011 10:10 AM

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http://www.nei.org/newsandevents/inf...n-that-region/

Another site with some factual information.

Febo 03-14-2011 10:57 AM

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according to brandon's post the control rods are in place and the cores are encased in containment vessels that are 40-80 inches thick... Crazy.

A//// Guy 03-14-2011 11:05 AM

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Yep, stainless steel and concrete I believe. The media likes to make it look like its going to blow up and spew radiation all over the world.

Experts are saying the only radiation that is likely to keep happening is from the venting they have to do to keep cooling it.

This puts the radiation into perspective too:

The NRC’s public radiation dose limit is 100 mrems annually. The average U.S. public exposure from the commercial nuclear fuel cycle, including nuclear power plant operations, is less than 1 mrem per year.

The average American receives more than 600 millirems of radiation exposure annually—about half from naturally-occurring sources and the rest from medical applications, such as CT scans and X-rays.


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